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The biased Media vs Trump!

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    #482
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,853 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    This entire election has been about Trump's personality. Content is seriously lacking. This goes to Clinton. I must congratulate her on making Trump the most media exposed candidate in US history. If he was picking his nose the media would be all over him.:rolleyes:

    Clinton hasn't made trump the most exposed candidate ever. he's done that all by himself as he is incapable of not saying stupid things that when he does say them instead of apologising he doubles down and makes things worse.


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    #483
    KingBrian2
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    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Clinton hasn't made trump the most exposed candidate ever. he's done that all by himself as he is incapable of saying stupid things that when he does say them instead of apologising he doubles down and makes things worse.

    Has Clinton made any change in policies, no she has not. She is sticking with the status quo courting the political families. Everyone knows Trump so well. I know what he stands for and what a Trump America would look like a bit more than Hillary. She has to pander to her partners in Washington. How will her policies impact the EU, China relations, NATO and Russia and Iran? We don't know because she is in league with the status quo.


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    #484
    letsseehere14
    Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭letsseehere14


    To me it's not the exposure or attacks on Trump by the media that is the problem. The majority of that is brought on my himself. The problem for me is the pass Clinton is getting. She has so many areas where the media could have destroyed here but they havnt. The real question for me is why haven't they?
    That is the bias in this election. Both candidates should have been forced to step aside by now.


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    #485
    Overheal
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    This entire election has been about Trump's personality. Content is seriously lacking. This goes to Clinton. I must congratulate her on making Trump the most media exposed candidate in US history. If he was picking his nose the media would be all over him.:rolleyes:

    "No hillary I don't want to. No! Don't make me pick up the phone. I don't want to phone in to FOX again. No! Stop it! Stop! don't make me tweet. Don't make me. Agh!"

    And she has changed policy quite a bit. The DNC platform adopted many Bernie Sanders initiatives at convention.


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    #486
    KingBrian2
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    Overheal wrote: »
    "No hillary I don't want to. No! Don't make me pick up the phone. I don't want to phone in to FOX again. No! Stop it! Stop! don't make me tweet. Don't make me. Agh!"

    And she has changed policy quite a bit. The DNC platform adopted many Bernie Sanders initiatives at convention.

    Name one.


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    #487
    Itssoeasy
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Has Clinton made any change in policies, no she has not. She is sticking with the status quo courting the political families. Everyone knows Trump so well. I know what he stands for and what a Trump America would look like a bit more than Hillary. She has to pander to her partners in Washington. How will her policies impact the EU, China relations, NATO and Russia and Iran? We don't know because she is in league with the status quo.

    What does trump stand for ? Building a wall and claiming to make America great again ? When was it bad exactly ? Well he's friends with putin and asked him to interfere. I mean that's a good one.He'll probably make all the us relations worse by just simply being himself.


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    #488
    alastair
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Has Clinton made any change in policies, no she has not. She is sticking with the status quo courting the political families. Everyone knows Trump so well. I know what he stands for and what a Trump America would look like a bit more than Hillary. She has to pander to her partners in Washington. How will her policies impact the EU, China relations, NATO and Russia and Iran? We don't know because she is in league with the status quo.

    Political families?

    if you honestly believe that Hillary is for maintaining the status quo, then it shouldn't be too difficult to envisage America under Hillary - it'll be just as it currently is (the status quo). Her policies (maintaining the status quo, remember?) would have zero impact on relations with the EU, or China, or anyone else, as they would be simply more of the same.


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    #489
    Overheal
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Name one.

    $15 minimum wage

    Expansion of social security

    Investment in renewable energy and alternative energy vehicle manufacturing.

    Public option healthcare

    Change Medicare enrollment to 55 years of age from 65

    Mandatory police body cameras

    Independent investigation of officer involved shootings

    Pathway to legalization of marijuana

    Oops you said one.


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    #490
    Overheal
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    That Paul Ryan event that he uninvited Trump from but that Trump said Mike Pence was going to go to instead? Yeah he's not going either

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/breaking-trump-veeps-mike-pence-drops-out-of-wisconsin-campaign-event-with-paul-ryan/


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    #491
    InTheTrees
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    Overheal wrote: »

    Oops you said one.

    Gun control

    Campaign finance reform


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    #492
    Billy86
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    Pence has got to be worried about what this race might do to his political ambitions. It's clear Trump has become a cancer even within Republican circles, and there's hardly anyone closer aligned to that cancer than Pence by now.

    Highly doubt it would happen, but in the interests of his own political career it might be best for Pence to step down as VP candidate. I'm sure Eric Trump would be more than happy to take up the mantle.


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    #493
    KingBrian2
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    Overheal wrote: »
    $15 minimum wage

    Expansion of social security

    Investment in renewable energy and alternative energy vehicle manufacturing.

    Public option healthcare

    Change Medicare enrollment to 55 years of age from 65

    Mandatory police body cameras

    Independent investigation of officer involved shootings

    Pathway to legalization of marijuana

    Oops you said one.

    None of which will be passed without the consent of Congress. The voters went out and voted in large numbers for the GOP & Tea Party Conservatives in the Mid term elections. Hillary cannot build a consensus in Washington. Her policies on intervention have no traction among the electorate and she has not changed this policy one bit.

    She has reversed her polices on having a dialogue with Moscow. She has moved further and further to the right when once she was all for building relationships with Putin and other heads of state it is now Trump who is seen as the conciliator of foreign powers.


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    #494
    Phoebas
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    Overheal wrote: »
    And she has changed policy quite a bit. The DNC platform adopted many Bernie Sanders initiatives at convention.
    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Name one.
    Overheal wrote: »
    $15 minimum wage
    ...
    ...

    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    None of which will be passed without the consent of Congress.

    Where do you think you're going with those goalposts?


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    #495
    Billy86
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    Phoebas wrote: »
    Where do you think you're going with those goalposts?
    You mustn't be familiar with the poster in question. I think the straight and direct answer threw him. After his longstanding argument that 'ban all Muslims' did not mean 'ban all Muslims' despite Trump continuously double down on it, I'd by 'grab them by the p*ssy' that same poster reckons Trump meant to buy them kittens from the cat orphanage.


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    #496
    PopePalpatine
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    Don't forget that Clinton dropped her support of the TPP, that's another of Sanders' proposals that made it into the Dems' platform.


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    #497
    KingBrian2
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    You mustn't be familiar with the poster in question. I think the straight and direct answer threw him. After his longstanding argument that 'ban all Muslims' did not mean 'ban all Muslims' despite Trump continuously double down on it, I'd by 'grab them by the p*ssy' that same poster reckons Trump meant to buy them kittens from the cat orphanage.

    Given that Hillary has no problem receiving donations from Saudi Arabia her track record on keeping America & the world safe is very much suspect. Her policies to date jeopardize the international community and the deal with Iran negotiated under President Obama's tenure is looking very tenuous at best. While Trump has advocated different policies we hear nothing from Clinton.


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    #498
    Billy86
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Given that Hillary has no problem receiving donations from Saudi Arabia her track record on keeping America & the world safe is very much suspect. Her policies to date jeopardize the international community and the deal with Iran negotiated under President Obama's tenure is looking very tenuous at best. While Trump has advocated different policies we hear nothing from Clinton.

    Despite the fact Trump has also received a lot of money from Saudis, this does nothing to do with the question you asked and had answered to you. Your failure to address that shows you were admit you were wrong to in your assumption.

    So what is your take on Trump's bragging about sexual assault?


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    #499
    KingBrian2
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    Despite the fact Trump has also received a lot of money from Saudis, this does nothing to do with the question you asked and had answered to you. Your failure to address that shows you were admit you were wrong to in your assumption.

    So what is your take on Trump's bragging about sexual assault?

    Hillary directly received donations from foreign Islamist countries that promote a message of hate across the world and people today are dying as a result of this. She lectures the GOP that she would be a great American President able to heal America's relationship with the Arabic, Islamic world when she refuses to distance herself from the extremism that comes out of Saudi Arabia.


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    #500
    Billy86
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Hillary directly received donations from foreign Islamist countries that promote a message of hate across the world and people today are dying as a result of this. She lectures the GOP that she would be a great American President able to heal America's relationship with the Arabic, Islamic world when she refuses to distance herself from the extremism that comes out of Saudi Arabia.
    Again Brian, Trump has received plenty of funds from the Saudis also. But that has nothing to do with your initial claim. If you do not address it, it's safe to say you admit you acknowledge that Overheal was completely correct and that Clinton as taken on plenty of Sanders' platforms.

    What is you opinion on Trump bragging about sexually assaulting women? You silence sounds like you are at the very least, happy to tolerate it.


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    #501
    KingBrian2
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    Again Brian, Trump has received plenty of funds from the Saudis also. But that has nothing to do with your initial claim. If you do not address it, it's safe to say you admit you acknowledge that Overheal was completely correct and that Clinton as taken on plenty of Sanders' platforms.

    What is you opinion on Trump bragging about sexually assaulting women? You silence sounds like you are at the very least, happy to tolerate it.

    On the contrary Trump's remarks are outrageous but the media refuses to mention once the sorts of people Mrs Clinton associates with or are willing to back. I know how the media in the US like to slander entire voters for backing Trump regardless of the dangerous policies pursued by the Democrats under Mrs Clinton.


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    #502
    Billy86
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    So no different than them not mentioning those Trump is indebted to, then.


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    #503
    KingBrian2
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    So no different than them not mentioning those Trump is indebted to, then.

    If by that you mean the many investments in Arabic countries by American businesspeople why not have business ties to the area. Trump has spoken eloquently about Dubai which disputes the version that he does not like all Arabs.


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    #504
    Billy86
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    If by that you mean the many investments in Arabic countries by American businesspeople why not have business ties to the area. Trump has spoken eloquently about Dubai which disputes the version that he does not like all Arabs.

    Nope. I mean being bailed out by and indebted to Russians and Saudis, which has been pointed out to you various times in the past.


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    #505
    KingBrian2
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    Nope. I mean being bailed out by and indebted to Russians and Saudis, which has been pointed out to you various times in the past.

    Your accusing Trump of being a hardcore racist when his private investments in these countries and his personal relations with these people points to him having good ties to these lands. Strict Islamic jurisprudence does not even believe in interest. Despite this Trump has like many other businesspeople has expanded his brand into these difficult regions in which gvt laws are extremely strict.


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    #506
    Billy86
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Your accusing Trump of being a hardcore racist when his private investments in these countries and his personal relations with these people points to him having good ties to these lands. Strict Islamic jurisprudence does not even believe in interest. Despite this Trump has like many other businesspeople has expanded his brand into these difficult regions in which gvt laws are extremely strict.
    Goalposts Brian, goalposts. At least you're conceding that he is indebted too Russians and Saudis, which the media never seem to report on.

    And I'm accusing Trump of being a racist because of his continued racist comments.


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    #507
    KingBrian2
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    Goalposts Brian, goalposts. At least you're conceding that he is indebted too Russians and Saudis, which the media never seem to report on.

    And I'm accusing Trump of being a racist because of his continued racist comments.

    Your also accusing much of the American public of being closet racists as well. You speak of Trump being indebted to Russians but correct me if i'm wrong but don't Washington have sanctions imposed on Russia. Trump would be breaking the sanctions if he was to be involved in reinvesting in the country. This is why his plan to invest in America and gain cooperation from Washington is far more likely than Clinton. Washington is still predominantly Republican. Hillary as I have said cannot build a consensus among the Congress people.


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    #508
    Billy86
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Your also accusing much of the American public of being closet racists as well. You speak of Trump being indebted to Russians but correct me if i'm wrong but don't Washington have sanctions imposed on Russia. Trump would be breaking the sanctions if he was to be involved in reinvesting in the country. This is why his plan to invest in America and gain cooperation from Washington is far more likely than Clinton. Washington is still predominantly Republican. Hillary as I have said cannot build a consensus among the Congress people.
    Your completely scattergun, entirely unfocused approach and frankly sad, continuous (not to mention comically transparent) efforts to shift the goalposts as you are proven wrong time and again is remarkably similar to Trump's, and a massive reason why he has almost certainly lost the election already.

    And yes, many of those still supporting Trump are doing so for racist and bigoted reasons. There's no secret there.


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    #509
    KingBrian2
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    Your completely scattergun, entirely unfocused approach and frankly sad, continuous (not to mention comically transparent) efforts to shift the goalposts as you are proven wrong time and again is remarkably similar to Trump's, and a massive reason why he has almost certainly lost the election already.

    And yes, many of those still supporting Trump are doing so for racist and bigoted reasons. There's no secret there.

    Once again you keep attacking Trump when candidate Hillary has shown herself to be a defender of the status quo. Your total disregard for the American public tells me a lot about how you view the voter and American citizens.


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    #510
    Billy86
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Once again you keep attacking Trump when candidate Hillary has shown herself to be a defender of the status quo. Your total disregard for the American public tells me a lot about how you view the voter and American citizens.
    See Brian, you're proving my point with your constant and remarkably transparent attempt to shift the goalposts. I'm not sure you're even convincing yourself here.

    You've conceded that Clinton has taken on many of Sanders platforms.
    You've conceded that Trump is indebted to Russians and Saudis.

    What exactly was your point again?

    Meanwhile, you keep telling yourself that there are no racists in the USA, if it fits the bubble that you've built for yourself. Thankfully Clinton, for all her faults, does not want to change the fact that there is not a ludicrous and unrealistic wall across the Mexican border, or a ludicrous and unrealistic ban on all Muslims entering the USA.


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    #511
    InTheTrees
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Your also accusing much of the American public of being closet racists as well.

    Segregation only ended in the mid 1960's, and the southern states were not in favour, and its not as though those attitudes went away the moment it was finally outlawed.


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