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The biased Media vs Trump!
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Count Dooku wrote: »and it was my point that google fixed searches about Clinton health after request from NYT
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100833115&postcount=22
And my point was that there is nothing to show that those results were altered from the NYT post, for starters there is not a single screenshot from before said Tweet used in the article. If 'health problems' not showing up on Google is seen as some conspiracy, then so must 'racist' not being there for Trump.
But here's the thing... 'Trump racist' did show up for you on the top search bar (as opposed to the one of the Google page itself) as did 'Clinton health problems' for me. Which kind of makes your initial point completely pointless and false. Both are here - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100834526&postcount=40
And not understanding that different search engines give different result frankly show an embarrassing lack on knowledge (or dishonesty, you decide) on Zero Hedge's part. Meaning your source is either incompetent or dishonest, and lacks credibility either way.
Here's Roy Keane for example, are we going to be counting him in on the Clinton conspiracy too now, while we're at it?
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Fair enough.ancapailldorcha wrote: »You're expected to back up your claims here. You began with there being 4 times as many pro-Democrat journalists as those of a pro-Republican bent. You can start there.
Here you go. I trust the study will suffice.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/just-7-percent-of-journalists-are-republicans-thats-far-less-than-even-a-decade-ago/
(Will you also require Dibbler to back up his attack on me, or are some things just a given?
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To be fair with regards to journalists, 28.1% do identify as Democrat vs. 7.1% as Republican.
What is interesting here is how much ground the Republicans have lost on that front over the last 40-odd years, and it is telling why so many more journalists identify as Democrat - journalists tend to have college educations.
For decades, ever since Nixon or even Goldwater, Republicans have looked to populism, politics of fear, and corralling the anger of the masses against whatever is perceived to be 'the enemy' - be that black people, the Communists, Arabs/Muslims, and of course the Democrats. Always the Democrats. This has continued on in a seemingly never ending game of one up manship that has seen the claims become more and more bizarre and ridiculous to the extent that many of their followers literally believe Obama is both a Muslim and an athiest, a fascist and a communist, and is a secret agent sent from Kenya to take down the USA. It is also why a lot of Republicans believe Hillary Clinton is literally Lucifer. As in not, 'as bad as' Lucifer or 'the personification of all that is wrong in the world/USA'. No. Literally Lucifer.
As the Republicans have gone further and further down this road, leading now to a situation that is absolutely beyond satire or farce (I'm not saying it to be glib, if you wrote this for a comedy movie a decade ago it would have been panned for being too dumb, too slapstick, and too unrealistic), they continue to push the college educated crowd away. All you have to do it look at trends over the last few decades, and the trickle-down effect (yes, pun intended
) is showing too - all the way to those whose education is 'high school or less'.
Added into that, you have the 'mixed' or 'independent' crowds. I do not know myself, but would imagine that quite a high number of these are right leaning or right wing, as elements like the Tea Party or Libertarians very often refuse to identify as Republicans, either because they don't feel ideologically close enough (though closer than they are to the Democrats) or to pretend to be objective on issues like disputes between the Republicans and Democrats, where having 'IND' beside your name can give you more clout on it's own.
At the end of the day though, none of this is very relevant. A journalist's job is to be objective and leave their own prejudices at the door, which the evidence shows most do. You do get people at the likes of FOX News or Breitbart on one end of the spectrum and the likes of Daily KOS on the other, but it has been shown to Amerika over and over that there is no giant conspiracy. For NYT's lean to the left, NBC has a lean to the right that the right wingers try desperately to ignore and the same is true of so many publications. He even claimed to have not seen it, despite the fact he responded to it when I posted it weeks back in the election thread. This is typical of Republican voters lately, as addressing the facts does not help their cause - journalists jobs are to address these facts, so they are clearly aware of that.
Fact is, there is no issue here as news journalists jobs require them to be impartial and the evidence shows them to be so. That they in their personal lives identify more strongly as Democratic is the fault of nobody's but the Republican party - they got a huge boost through the Southern Strategy that saw them utterly dominate politics in the US for quite a while (which is mainly why they hate the Clintons so much, for taking that away). They got to reap the rewards of race baiting, playing to people's fears, politics of hate and offering easy answers that don't address the issues during those years... and now they get to reap them more than they ever would have wanted.
I think the last 4 years have really seen it hit breaking point now; they've created a Frankenstein within a voter base (not just Trump, the Tea Party too and some might argue the Libertarians though they are more of a sister party of sorts in my opinion). The position they've found themselves in now is incredibly difficult - remain as one dysfunctional basket case, able to pander to a wider range at state level but with very slim hopes of winning any Presidential elections, or disband into 3 parties which makes little sense as the Democrats would walk all over any of those three in isolation. Their genuine best bet on this front would be the Bernie Sanders supporters looking to do likewise within the Democrats. Outside of that the only real possible answer I can see for them is to hit a complete reset button - Paul Ryan seems a decent figurehead to do so, but how they successfully do so is a completely other matter filled with it's own difficulties.
TL;DR... Democrats dominate college educated voters. Journalists tend to have college educations. Republicans mock these people as 'elitists' and cannot expect their support. However, journalists jobs involve being objective and with exceptions to the left and to the right, this is the case. It is that objectivity coupled with their educations that likely causes them to identify with the Democrats more. And the Republicans have nobody but themselves to blame for their sneering at education for so long, especially in the last 10-15 years which has by no coincidence seen the number of journalists identifying with them plummet.0 -
Fair enough.
Here you go. I trust the study will suffice.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/just-7-percent-of-journalists-are-republicans-thats-far-less-than-even-a-decade-ago/
(Will you also require Dibbler to back up his attack on me, or are some things just a given?)
That's says how journalists identify politically the biggest group is independent/other who amount to about 65%. Journalist who identify with the big two parties more are democrats than republican. That study does not back to the claim in the thread. If anything it shows a 2-1 independent bias.0 -
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