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The biased Media vs Trump!

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    #1202
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    Amazing the way the media are reporting these protests as just a consequence and no big deal - its ok like cos
    a "facsist racist" is in charge .. :rolleyes:

    If this was the opposite and the rioters were against Hillary winning - they media would be denouncing them as
    Bigots - and undemocratic and how lucky we are that Trump didn't win because these are his thuggish supporters.
    Of course we all know there would be ZERO riots had Clinton won ... the left are showing themselves to be what
    they preach the right are - violent, intollerant bigots.


    Una Mullaly (sp) was tweeting before the election how worried she was about the riots and unrest that Trumps loss
    would cause.

    The irony is completely lost on her, she continues to spout bs saying America will be a dangerous place
    now for Blacks, gays and Muslims - please give me a break !


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    #1203
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,799 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »
    Of course we all know there would be ZERO riots had Clinton won ...
    We do?
    ...she continues to spout bs saying America will be a dangerous place
    now for Blacks, gays and Muslims - please give me a break !

    What do you want a break from? The truth? America is already a dangerous place for blacks, gays and Muslims. With the election of a racist demagogue, do you think it's suddenly going to get better?


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    #1204
    Mr Joe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭Mr Joe




    Those Liberal tears taste so good :D


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    #1205
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    We do?

    Yes we do, no one rioted for the past 2 elections when Obama won.


    What do you want a break from? The truth? America is already a dangerous place for blacks, gays and Muslims. With the election of a racist demagogue, do you think it's suddenly going to get better?

    Racist ?

    Can't take that argument seriously, he hasn't a racist bone in his body.

    America is a dangerous place for Blacks, gays and muslims ?
    really ? Seems a pretty tolerant place to me and when I lived there for over a year.


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    #1206
    marienbad
    Registered Users Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »
    Racist ?

    Can't take that argument seriously, he hasn't a racist bone in his body.

    America is a dangerous place for Blacks, gays and muslims ?
    really ? Seems a pretty tolerant place to me and when I lived there for over a year.

    are you black gay or muslim ?


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    #1207
    Mr Joe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭Mr Joe


    Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »
    Racist ?

    Can't take that argument seriously, he hasn't a racist bone in his body.

    America is a dangerous place for Blacks, gays and muslims ?
    really ? Seems a pretty tolerant place to me and when I lived there for over a year.
    Just more hyperbole from deluded liberals. They live in a fantasy land.


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    #1208
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    marienbad wrote: »
    are you black gay or muslim ?

    ah yeah ... sorry no I'm not - must be my white male privilege speaking ...

    edit - just curious how do you think it will be worse for gays, blacks and muslims living in the United States now ?

    you really think he will overturn gay marriage laws .. ?

    or make the KKK a legitimate political party ?


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    #1209
    B0jangles
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    ^^^
    Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »
    Racist ?

    Can't take that argument seriously, he hasn't a racist bone in his body.

    America is a dangerous place for Blacks, gays and muslims ?
    really ? Seems a pretty tolerant place to me and when I lived there for over a year.

    What about the lawsuit the DOJ took against him and his father for refusing to rent apartments to black people?

    Are you a gay person? Or a muslim? Perhaps think about asking them about their experiences of living in the US before you decide everything is just hunky-dory.
    ah yeah ... sorry no I'm not - must be my white male privilege speaking ...

    Yeah, it is actually. I thought Ireland was not really racist at all until I spent some time hanging out with a black american girl here.

    Really opened my eyes.


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    #1210
    marienbad
    Registered Users Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »
    ah yeah ... sorry no I'm not - must be my white male privilege speaking ...

    yeah must be , quelle surprise


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    #1211
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    B0jangles wrote: »
    ^^^

    What about the lawsuit the DOJ took against him and his father for refusing to rent apartments to black people?

    Are you a gay person? Or a muslim? Perhaps think about asking them about their experiences of living in the US before you decide everything is just hunky-dory.



    Yeah, it is actually. I thought Ireland was not really racist at all until I spent some time hanging out with a black american girl here.

    Really opened my eyes.

    I am not gay black nor Muslim, but we aren't seeing the whole picture here
    take this for example - really good article

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/11/10/im-a-muslim-a-woman-and-an-immigrant-i-voted-for-trump/


    And regarding Ireland being racist - I would believe it


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    #1212
    Hank Scorpio
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    Gotta love the media



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    #1213
    Mr Joe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭Mr Joe


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    Gotta love the media

    Another classic one here since he won :D



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    #1214
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Awesome thanks, haven't seen an updated version


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    #1215
    B0jangles
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    I find it very depressing that several people here are actively rejoicing in what looks like a period in which religious and ethnic minorities are going to be harrassed and persecuted with the full support and involvement of the government.

    I tried pretending to myself for a while that most Trump supporters thought this was an accidental byproduct or just a media lie and that the real result was going to be an improved economy or something, but some of you really really love to see bigotry and racism flourish, don't you?


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    #1216
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    B0jangles wrote: »
    I find it very depressing that several people here are actively rejoicing in what looks like a period in which religious and ethnic minorities are going to be harrassed and persecuted with the full support and involvement of the government.

    I tried pretending to myself for a while that most Trump supporters thought this was an accidental byproduct or just a media lie and that the real result was going to be an improved economy or something, but some of you really really love to see bigotry and racism flourish, don't you?

    Why did the UK vote for Brexit again?

    Globalism vs Nationalism is why I wanted to see Trump win, that and Hillary is a crook. She's not without fault for creating racial tensions in the US by supporting groups like black lives matter. But that's her thing, she preys on minorities manipulating the media ( that she 'used' to own ) to make Trump look like Hitler, to get votes and then does nothing for the minority communities.


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    #1217
    B0jangles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    Why did the UK vote for Brexit again?

    Globalism vs Nationalism is why I wanted to see Trump win, that and Hillary is a crook.

    To Take Back Sovereignty (tm)

    (AKA a fantasy of returning to a imagined past that never actually existed)


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    #1218
    oscarBravo
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    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    She's not without fault for creating racial tensions in the US by supporting groups like black lives matter.

    Yeah, there were no racial tensions in the USA before black people started getting the uppity notion that their lives matter.

    I yearn for the days when racism was thinly veiled on these forums.


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    #1219
    Hank Scorpio
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    Media not at fault at all then?



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    #1220
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Yeah, there were no racial tensions in the USA before black people started getting the uppity notion that their lives matter.

    I yearn for the days when racism was thinly veiled on these forums.

    Where did I say they don't matter? I'm saying Hillary did a lot to create racial tensions in the US by manipulating the media to portray Trump and his supporters as racists.


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    #1221
    vladmydad
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    The Dems always play the race card to scare black's to vote for them but if Trump fufills his new deal with African Americans ,by investing in there community's and putting together a jobs plan through enterprise zones ,he has an opportunity to break the stranglehold of the dems


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    #1222
    B0jangles
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    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    Where did I say they don't matter? I'm saying Hillary did a lot to create racial tensions in the US by manipulating the media to portray Trump and his supporters as racists.

    They did a very good job of doing that themselves, by being, y'know racist

    http://www.salon.com/2016/10/28/watch-black-donald-trump-supporter-mistaken-for-protestor-gets-escorted-out-of-rally-and-called-a-thug-by-trump/
    Donald Trump called his African-American supporter a “thug” and threw him out of a rally in North Carolina, the Charlotte News & Observer reported. The GOP presidential nominee apparently mistook the black man for a protestor.

    “Were you paid $1,500 to be a thug?” Trump sneered at Nash County resident C.J. Cary.
    According to the News & Observer, Cary stood about 20-30 feet from the stage at the Kinston Jet Center Wednesday night and shouted “Donald” while waving his document to try to get Trump’s attention.
    Apparently mistaking Cary for a protestor, Trump yelled to his security guards, “You can get him out. Get him out!”

    http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/donald-trumps-top-black-strategist-in-florida-thrown-out-of-trump-rally-for-being-black/25767/
    The Trump campaign does have minority outreach efforts, but those in charge of it say the campaign is blowing them off. Worse, Trump’s own top black strategist in Florida was thrown out of a Trump rally, essentially for being black.

    Sean P. Jackson is the head of the Black Republican Caucus of Florida, and he’s also serving as a Donald Trump surrogate in the state. He claims that the head of the Trump campaign in Florida, Karen Giorno, has repeatedly blown off his efforts at getting the campaign to take African-American voters seriously. In fact she apparently couldn’t even remember what he looked like, despite his prominence within the campaign and the numerous conversations they’d had.

    When the Secret Service asked Jackson what he was doing backstage at a Donald Trump rally, he identified himself, but none of Trump’s people backstage could vouch for him because none of them recognized him. He claims he asked Giorno to vouch for him, but she said she didn’t recognize him either, so he was escorted out under the assumption he didn’t belong.


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    #1223
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    It's not hard to nit pick situations on either side.

    Bunch of Africans Americans beating a white man because he voted for Trump

    https://streamable.com/6nwo

    So he threw someone out of his rally? That happens all the time. It's been proven by Wikileaks and project Veritas that Clintons campaign paid mentally ill people to go and cause violence at his rallies. That doesn't get reported by the MSM though, nor does situations like below.



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    #1224
    B0jangles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    It's not hard to nit pick situations on either side.

    Bunch of Africans Americans beating a white man because he voted for Trump

    https://streamable.com/6nwo

    So he threw someone out of his rally? That happens all the time. It's been proven by Wikileaks and project Veritas that Clintons campaign paid mentally ill people to go and cause violence at his rallies. That doesn't get reported by the MSM though, nor does situations like below.


    Black Trump supporters were thrown out of his rallies because they were black. Trump explicitly called pne of them a 'thug', because he was black.

    Why will Project Veritas not reveal their unedited footage? Is it because it is heavily edited to create a totally false impression, just like they did with the ACORN stuff a few years ago?

    Wikileaks? Don't make me laugh, they lost all credibility with their behaviour throughout this election.


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    #1225
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    B0jangles wrote: »
    Black Trump supporters were thrown out of his rallies because they were black. Trump explicitly called pne of them a 'thug', because he was black.

    Why will Project Veritas not reveal their unedited footage? Is it because it is heavily edited to create a totally false impression, just like they did with the ACORN stuff a few years ago?

    Wikileaks? Don't make me laugh, they lost all credibility with their behaviour throughout this election.

    It says he was mistakenly thrown out and perceived as a protester. You, and the media make a big deal out of it because he is black. Look at any Trump rally with black supporters in Camera view, were they all thrown out too?

    Here's an article of someone admitting they were paid to disrupt a Trump rally from a reputable source.

    http://abcnews.com.co/donald-trump-protester-speaks-out-i-was-paid-to-protest/

    Wikileaks have released over 1 million documents and not one has been shown to be false, they have been used as proof in congress - so if your argument is "Wikileaks is fake!", you simply do not have an argument. It's denial.


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    #1226
    B0jangles
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    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    It says he was mistakenly thrown out and perceived as a protester. You, and the media make a big deal out of it because he is black. Look at any Trump rally with black supporters in Camera view, were they all thrown out too?

    Here's an article of someone admitting they were paid to disrupt a Trump rally from a reputable source.

    http://abcnews.com.co/donald-trump-protester-speaks-out-i-was-paid-to-protest/

    Wikileaks have released over 1 million documents and not one has been shown to be false, they have been used as proof in congress - so if your argument is "Wikileaks is fake!", you simply do not have an argument. It's denial.

    What about the man who was a leader of the black republicans in Florida, who went to a Trump representative he knew so that they could vouch for him and who was denied by that same representative?

    If Wikileaks is an impartisan source why has every release of data this election cycle been to the detriment of the Democrats, with no releases of any kind about the Republican Party? Why did Julian Assange do an interview with RT, the known mouthpiece of the Putin regime? A regime which has expressed its delight with the election of Trump and its involvement with his campaign for the last several months.

    Is it all just a massive coincidence?


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    #1227
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,799 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    It says he was mistakenly thrown out and perceived as a protester.

    Was he protesting?


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    #1228
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Was he protesting?

    It says he was mistakenly perceived as a protester so you know the answer to that already.


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    #1229
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    B0jangles wrote: »
    I find it very depressing that several people here are actively rejoicing in what looks like a period in which religious and ethnic minorities are going to be harrassed and persecuted with the full support and involvement of the government.
    They aren't !!!
    You keep telling yourself they will tho!!
    I tried pretending to myself for a while that most Trump supporters thought this was an accidental byproduct or just a media lie and that the real result was going to be an improved economy or something, but some of you really really love to see bigotry and racism flourish, don't you?

    Again stop shouting bigotry and racism !!!

    It´s nothing to do with it , lots of Obama voters voted for Trump this time round - did they forget that they were voting for a "racist" candidate ?


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    #1230
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Yeah, there were no racial tensions in the USA before black people started getting the uppity notion that their lives matter.

    .

    of course their lives matter - just like all lives matter, however the BLM movement is as racist as they claim the police are - calling for police to be killed and white people too ..
    I yearn for the days when racism was thinly veiled on these forums

    Stop seeing racism where there is none, do you search to be offended ?


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    #1231
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    B0jangles wrote: »
    What about the man who was a leader of the black republicans in Florida, who went to a Trump representative he knew so that they could vouch for him and who was denied by that same representative?

    If Wikileaks is an impartisan source why has every release of data this election cycle been to the detriment of the Democrats, with no releases of any kind about the Republican Party? Why did Julian Assange do an interview with RT, the known mouthpiece of the Putin regime? A regime which has expressed its delight with the election of Trump and its involvement with his campaign for the last several months.

    Is it all just a massive coincidence?

    Maybe Trump didn't like him or want him involved in his campaign? Should he automatically accept him because he's black? Again I could link 50+ videos of black leaders supporting Trump, many of which are at his rallies.





    On your second point, it's been shown in Wikileaks releases that Podesta and his team were colluding with the MSM to link Trump with Russia and Putin as far back as March as a tactic to turn people against him. And that's only the emails we get to see. The FBI have said there is no link between Putin and Trump. It's all a ploy by Clinton and the MSM to discredit Wikileaks.

    It's well know Assange is against the establishment, that's why he is locked up in what is pretty much a prison right now. Assange has already said he has emails on Trump but nothing worth releasing.

    If anything Russia is happy Trump got elected because Clinton has been playing Russian Roulette with Putin for far too long now. Trump has come out and said many times it wouldn't be a bad thing if for once, the US got along with Russia, and why would it?


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