The biased Media vs Trump!

oscarBravo

Mr.H wrote: »

Sexual assault??

He did allude to women let you do anything when you are famous. That means consent is given when "they let you"

That is not assault.

Its not cool and its no way to talk but its not assault

And this, boys and girls, is why we so desperately need to teach young people what consent actually means.

Overheal

oscarBravo wrote: »

And this, boys and girls, is why we so desperately need to teach young people what consent actually means.

I'm sure you saw this but there are special folks who think consent is a gimmick and a cop out. Not sure whether to place them at or below the level of holocaust deniers

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57fee9aae4b0e8c198a6076d

"Here come the rape police!"

FA Hayek

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Can't be any worse than CNN journos getting full sheets of questions from the DNC for Trump interviews.

Anyone see John Oliver spout his usual hysterical nonsense? I do not think he realises that he and his ilk is one of the reasons why Trump has won. These late night comedians who comment on politics are narcissists, they pack the audience with people who egg them on and they think their view point is the only one that matters or the only one is right.

Overheal

FA Hayek wrote: »

Anyone see John Oliver spout his usual hysterical nonsense? I do not think he realises that he and his ilk is one of the reasons why Trump has won. These late night comedians who comment on politics are narcissists, they pack the audience with people who egg them on and they think their view point is the only one that matters or the only one is right.

Well it is comedy, not journalism. Just very well fact-checked comedy.

20Cent

FA Hayek wrote: »

Anyone see John Oliver spout his usual hysterical nonsense? I do not think he realises that he and his ilk is one of the reasons why Trump has won. These late night comedians who comment on politics are narcissists, they pack the audience with people who egg them on and they think their view point is the only one that matters or the only one is right.

Trump supporters were influenced by a comedian?
Actually agree they probably are that dumb.

alastair

FA Hayek wrote: »

Anyone see John Oliver spout his usual hysterical nonsense? I do not think he realises that he and his ilk is one of the reasons why Trump has won. These late night comedians who comment on politics are narcissists, they pack the audience with people who egg them on and they think their view point is the only one that matters or the only one is right.

"Trump won because of John Oliver."

There isn't half some rubbish being trollied out in lieu of critical analysis. Trump didn't win because of John Oliver, CNN, smug liberals, or self-congratulating coastal elite bubbles. He won because enough people swallowed his bull****. Not a majority of course, but sufficient numbers so that they, combined with the 'vote-for-anything-on-the-GOP-ticket', combined to win enough electoral colleges.

The fashionable meme of blaming liberal commentators on Trump's win makes about as much sense as blaming Obama's wins on Fox News commentators or clowns like Ann Coulter. As in none at all. At least Oliver has the benefits of being funny, and of some sort of integrity when it comes to the truth.

Mr Joe

Usual disgusting racism from CNN. That man was viciously assaulted for no reason. Stuff like this is the reason Trump won, the Liberals will never grasp that though.

oscarBravo

Mr Joe wrote: »

That man was viciously assaulted for no reason.

That man was viciously assaulted in the course of a dispute over a traffic collision. While filming the assault, some onlookers shouted about voting for Trump.

It was a vicious assault by some people who need to be prosecuted for it. It had nothing to do with Trump until the people recording it decided to make it about him.

But sure: if it suits your narrative to claim that what boils down to a road rage incident is the reason Trump won, knock yourself out.

FA Hayek

alastair wrote: »

"Trump won because of John Oliver."

There isn't half some rubbish being trollied out in lieu of critical analysis. Trump didn't win because of John Oliver, CNN, smug liberals, or self-congratulating coastal elite bubbles. He won because enough people swallowed his bull****.

So Trump won because people are stupid i.e. his supporters are stupid, the opposite being of course the Hilary Clinton supporters are virtuous and good.

Thanks for proving the point that indeed Trump won because of opinions like that.

John Oliver and his ilk are indeed so disconnected from the average American, they have become a parody of themselves in many ways. The more and more I look at this media elite with their fawning millennials on social media and the likes of the Huff Post, Vox, Gawker and Buzzfeed the more I am reminded of this guy.

FA Hayek

Oh, and these protests. A joke. Just of a bunch of idiots who want to smash things up. If it were the opposite they would be castigated and mocked by your usual comedic cohorts.
It turns out that most of those arrested did not even vote.

Local NBC News affiliate KGW cross-checked the names of the 112 people arrested by Portland police with state voter logs, and found that at least 70 of the protesters who were detained did not cast a vote in 2016. Of those who did not vote, half were not even registered voters.

http://heatst.com/politics/portland-protest-vote/

Now THAT is stupid. Protest an election results you didn't even vote in, get arrested for breaking the law in the process. *Slow handclap*

I wonder will this fact be covered by the usual array of comedic TV talents? I very much doubt it. Easier to call rednecks hicks.

alastair

FA Hayek wrote: »

So Trump won because people are stupid i.e. his supporters are stupid, the opposite being of course the Hilary Clinton supporters are virtuous and good.

Anyone who bought his platform promises is pretty stupid alright. Which doesn't imply anything with regard to Hillary voters.

FA Hayek wrote: »

Thanks for proving the point that indeed Trump won because of opinions like that.

Eh, I've proven no such thing (and nor have you).

FA Hayek wrote: »

John Oliver and his ilk are indeed so disconnected from the average American, they have become a parody of themselves in many ways. The more and more I look at this media elite with their fawning millennials on social media and the likes of the Huff Post, Vox, Gawker and Buzzfeed the more I am reminded of this guy.

That's nice for you, but it's worth pointing out that the 'disconnected' telly guy was advocating that the better candidate was Hillary - and a majority of over a million voters seem to have agreed with him when it came to voting. Perhaps it's you who doesn't understand the average American?

alastair

FA Hayek wrote: »

Easier to call rednecks hicks.

Rednecks are hicks. A subset admittedly, but there you go.

Mr Joe

oscarBravo wrote: »

That man was viciously assaulted in the course of a dispute over a traffic collision. While filming the assault, some onlookers shouted about voting for Trump.

It was a vicious assault by some people who need to be prosecuted for it. It had nothing to do with Trump until the people recording it decided to make it about him.

But sure: if it suits your narrative to claim that what boils down to a road rage incident is the reason Trump won, knock yourself out.

Wow

Even the guy himself said it was. And still you are an apologist for Black racist thugs brutually assaulting an old man just for voting Trump. People like you are disgusting. What a surprise you are an Admin on here...you fit the stereotype for sure...:pac:

Mr Joe

alastair wrote: »

Rednecks are hicks. A subset admittedly, but there you go.

More racism from Liberals, exactly the reason Trump won and your Social Justice Warrior idealogy is dying off....keep it up...:D

alastair

Mr Joe wrote: »

More racism from Liberals, exactly the reason Trump won and your Social Justice Warrior idealogy is dying off....keep it up...:D

Oh please. No-one is buying this nonsense.

Overheal

FA Hayek wrote: »

So Trump won because people are stupid i.e. his supporters are stupid, the opposite being of course the Hilary Clinton supporters are virtuous and good.

Thanks for proving the point that indeed Trump won because of opinions like that.

John Oliver and his ilk are indeed so disconnected from the average American, they have become a parody of themselves in many ways. The more and more I look at this media elite with their fawning millennials on social media and the likes of the Huff Post, Vox, Gawker and Buzzfeed the more I am reminded of this guy.

Here you go



Not sure what to think about now that we're blaming comedy for the problems in Journalism.

Amerika

Overheal wrote: »

Not sure what to think about now that we're blaming comedy for the problems in Journalism.

Interesting comment from the side that often posted clips of Jon Stewart as an authoritative representative of the thoughts and minds of the people regarding political events.

Overheal

Amerika wrote: »

Interesting comment from the side that often posted clips of Jon Stewart as an authoritative representative of the thoughts and minds of the people regarding political events.

I've got $500 to your pick of charity that I ever said any such thing.

oscarBravo

Mr Joe wrote: »

Even the guy himself said it was.

No, he didn't. He said that he had voted for Trump; he didn't say that he had been assaulted for voting for Trump. The police reports on the incident make it clear that the assault followed from a traffic accident. The video of the assault doesn't show the people who carried out the assault saying anything about Trump; it's the bystanders who are shouting about him.

And still you are an apologist for Black racist thugs brutually assaulting an old man just for voting Trump. People like you are disgusting.

People like me? You mean people who prefer facts over sensationalised lies that reinforce preconceived ideas?

Yeah, I'm such a monster.

If you weren't so busy getting annoyed at me bringing facts to a bullshit fest, you'd have noticed me saying that it was a "vicious assault by some people who need to be prosecuted for it." Quite how that makes me an apologist, I just don't know.

What a surprise you are an Admin on here...you fit the stereotype for sure...:pac:

What stereotype?

recedite

oscarBravo wrote: »

The video of the assault doesn't show the people who carried out the assault saying anything about Trump; it's the bystanders who are shouting about him.

They are not "bystanders" the girls proudly filming the incident are with the "gents" perpetrating the assault. You can see them coming and going from behind the camera angle to get a few digs in. The guy in the deep pocketed blue tracksuit bottoms robs something from inside the car too.
All in the name of democracy of course.

Which reminds me, I see Obama has been stomping around the Parthenon in Athens today, that birthplace of western civilisation and democracy.

And then somehow twisting it to look like he symbolically represents democracy himself, as opposed to Trump.
And like the Greeks letting through a million or so unvetted illegal Islamic immigrants is somehow helpful or symbolic to the concept of western civilisation and democracy.

alastair

recedite wrote: »

They are not "bystanders" the girls proudly filming the incident are with the "gents" perpetrating the assault. You can see them coming and going from behind the camera angle to get a few digs in. The guy in the deep pocketed blue tracksuit bottoms robs something from inside the car too.
All in the name of democracy of course.

Which reminds me, I see Obama has been stomping around the Parthenon in Athens today, that birthplace of western civilisation and democracy.

And then somehow twisting it to look like he symbolically represents democracy himself, as opposed to Trump.
And like the Greeks letting through a million or so unvetted illegal Islamic immigrants is somehow helpful or symbolic to the concept of western civilisation and democracy.

Where to begin?

What suggests that the muggers are doing anything 'for democracy'? Aside from your creative fiction musings of course?

How exactly is Obama 'twisting it up' to look like he 'symbolically' represents democracy? He was actually democratically elected - twice. That's a pretty good 'non-symbolic' representation of democracy in action.

The asylum seekers entering Greece were not 'islamic immigrants' - they were muslims who have a legal right to seek asylum. So they were acting quite legally, and their religion has nothing to do with the process. The civilised thing - western or otherwise, is to help people in need - which the Greeks did to the best of their abilities.

oscarBravo

recedite wrote: »

They are not "bystanders" the girls proudly filming the incident are with the "gents" perpetrating the assault. You can see them coming and going from behind the camera angle to get a few digs in.

There's one girl filming the assault, and judging by the volume of her voice on the recording, she's the one mouthing off about Trump.

The guy in the deep pocketed blue tracksuit bottoms robs something from inside the car too.

So he's guilty of larceny as well as assault.

All in the name of democracy of course.

No, not in the name of democracy. There's no evidence that this assault was caused by how the man voted.

I can tell you really, really want to believe that that's why he was beaten up, but wanting something to be true won't make it so.

KingBrian2

alastair wrote: »

Where to begin?

What suggests that the muggers are doing anything 'for democracy'? Aside from your creative fiction musings of course?

How exactly is Obama 'twisting it up' to look like he 'symbolically' represents democracy? He was actually democratically elected - twice. That's a pretty good 'non-symbolic' representation of democracy in action.

The asylum seekers entering Greece were not 'islamic immigrants' - they were muslims who have a legal right to seek asylum. So they were acting quite legally, and their religion has nothing to do with the process. The civilised thing - western or otherwise, is to help people in need - which the Greeks did to the best of their abilities.

The vast majority were Muslim not that that matters but helping the immigrants was the least they could have done.

recedite

alastair wrote: »

How exactly is Obama 'twisting it up' to look like he 'symbolically' represents democracy? He was actually democratically elected - twice. That's a pretty good 'non-symbolic' representation of democracy in action.

Come on, why do you think he arranged his photo-op for the Parthenon?
Its symbolism. He is trying to link the Democrats with democracy, as if the incoming administration are anti-democratic.
While there, he disparages the so called populist parties in Europe as if there was a difference between "populist" and "democratic".

Next up he will follow the migrant trail to Germany, where he will meet the vehemently anti-Trump Merkel, who is soon to be consigned to the same dustbin of history that Hillary was recently cast into by a democratic (populist) electorate.

Here's a better link to the assault video.

alastair

KingBrian2 wrote: »

The vast majority were Muslim not that that matters but helping the immigrants was the least they could have done.

Their being Muslim doesn't make them 'Islamic immigrants'.

alastair

recedite wrote: »

Come on, why do you think he arranged his photo-op for the Parthenon?
Its symbolism. He is trying to link the Democrats with democracy, as if the incoming administration are anti-democratic.

And here he is, cynically trying to symbolically associate himself with the the little children of Stonehenge, and dew drops' cry and the cats' meow.

ancapailldorcha

KingBrian2 wrote: »

The vast majority were Muslim not that that matters but helping the immigrants was the least they could have done.

If it doesn't matter then why mention it?

Mantis Toboggan

Fintan O Toole on the today fm trying to reason why people voted for Trump

Hilarious how the media cannot accept the result and need to keep preaching about why this absurdity happened.

The smug arrogance of the Irish media never fails to deliver.

marienbad

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Fintan O Toole on the today fm trying to reason why people voted for Trump

Hilarious how the media cannot accept the result and need to keep preaching about why this absurdity happened.

The smug arrogance of the Irish media never fails to deliver.

surely after any election everyone tries to makes sense of the result - why should O'Toole be any different ?

Something similar happened in 2012 when Romney lost and GOP strategists were dumbfounded . that just the way it is , you lose you regroup and try to come back stronger .

recedite

alastair wrote: »

Their being Muslim doesn't make them 'Islamic immigrants'.

OK then, "bearded long-stay tourists".