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The biased Media vs Trump!

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    #212
    Pro Hoc Vice
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    holly44 wrote: »
    All allowed by a Democrat President.
    As Trump said last week to black Americans , the Democratic party has let you down big time, what have you to loose by voting for Trump.
    Just look at the murder rate coming out of Democrat controlled Chicago too see that Trump has a point, it can't get much worse.

    Chicago like the rest of the USA had a huge fall in all crime including murder since early 1990s for example the murder rate in 1991 was 992 last year it was 468, it is true that so far this year the figure is 474 which is 1991 figures again but I do not think the Democrates can be blamed for gang violence in Chicago and even a very strong president could solve it it is a local policing issue and a decision I believe to let the gangs have the street.


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    #213
    InTheTrees
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    holly44 wrote: »
    All allowed by a Democrat President.

    The only meaningful healthcare reform in decades has taken place under a democrat president and as soon as the republicans regained a majority in congress they've tried to block it.

    The republicans have done nothing to change the current system, only obstruction to any reforms.


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    #214
    holly44
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    Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
    t it is a local policing issue and a decision I believe to let the gangs have the street.

    So you are saying a Democrat President Obama, from Chicago, has abandoned his home town to thugs?
    If thats what is the status quo for Chicago blacks with a Black Chicagoan in the white house, What exactly do they have to loose by voting for Trump?


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    #215
    Pro Hoc Vice
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    holly44 wrote: »
    So you are saying a Democrat President Obama, from Chicago, has abandoned his home town to thugs?
    If thats what is the status quo for Chicago blacks with a Black Chicagoan in the white house, What exactly do they have to loose by voting for Trump?

    No the president under the constitution would not have the power to get involved in what is a state issue. The only power he may have is if a state of emergency was declared or the Govenor called in the federal system. You do understand the federal system?


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    #216
    InTheTrees
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    holly44 wrote: »
    So you are saying a Democrat President Obama, from Chicago, has abandoned his home town to thugs?
    If thats what is the status quo for Chicago blacks with a Black Chicagoan in the white house, What exactly do they have to loose by voting for Trump?

    I think the people of chicago understand the US president isnt responsible for Chicago. They can vote out the mayor and the city council and it looks like they may.

    An angry white man standing in front of a white audience and yelling at African Americans that they couldnt have it any worse and they may as well vote for him, really is not a great way to get votes.

    A lot of african americans remember when it really was a hell of a lot worse, and it looks like trump is hearkening back to those days.


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    #217
    Berserker
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    InTheTrees wrote: »
    The only meaningful healthcare reform in decades has taken place under a democrat president and as soon as the republicans regained a majority in congress they've tried to block it.

    If you get sick in the US, it's your problem, which differs from the view that we have in Europe on the matter. Obamacare introduces a form of socialism to healthcare in the US. A fair percentage of the population don't agree with the policy and the protestations of Republicans reflected that.


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    #218
    Overheal
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    holly44 wrote: »
    So you are saying a Democrat President Obama, from Chicago, has abandoned his home town to thugs?
    If thats what is the status quo for Chicago blacks with a Black Chicagoan in the white house, What exactly do they have to loose by voting for Trump?

    He's the POTUS, not the Mayor of Chicago.

    As Pro Hoc Vice says, he only has Federal jurisdiction.

    All the same, the last couple years Chicago has been the conservative movement's favorite dead-horse/poster-goat for trying to say that their opponents are wrong. It's transparent and tiresome.


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    #219
    BorneTobyWilde
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    Germany next, establishment getting crushed.
    Trump will see it through too.


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    #220
    BorneTobyWilde
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    These polls in Germany could be the start of the end for EU .
    The world is changing , Trump is next.


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    #221
    KingBrian2
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    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    These polls in Germany could be the start of the end for EU .
    The world is changing , Trump is next.

    Germany is not the only country in the EU plus we should really start adding extreme left wing groups to the populist category as well as the racist folks.


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    #222
    KingBrian2
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    InTheTrees wrote: »
    The only meaningful healthcare reform in decades has taken place under a democrat president and as soon as the republicans regained a majority in congress they've tried to block it.

    The republicans have done nothing to change the current system, only obstruction to any reforms.

    As has been mentioned plenty of times by the media Trump is no orthodox Republican. He is a change. That is what is helping his campaign and most Americans have no party allegiance. Trump is not asking his supporters to sign a pledge. Equally his supporters are not demanding Trump to make any pledge. So in this case Trump is not tied to any other lobby group or special interest. Mark of a good campaign. What I like about Trump is his determination to win not necessarily his policies, but only a fool or an overly passionate supporter goes for the notion that he will completely change America.


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    #223
    InTheTrees
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    As has been mentioned plenty of times by the media Trump is no orthodox Republican. He is a change. That is what is helping his campaign and most Americans have no party allegiance. Trump is not asking his supporters to sign a pledge. Equally his supporters are not demanding Trump to make any pledge. So in this case Trump is not tied to any other lobby group or special interest. Mark of a good campaign.

    Like it or not Trump is the Republican Party candidate and they have a policy platform that they've published. Its all there on the RNC website.


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    #224
    Pro Hoc Vice
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    As has been mentioned plenty of times by the media Trump is no orthodox Republican. He is a change. That is what is helping his campaign and most Americans have no party allegiance. Trump is not asking his supporters to sign a pledge. Equally his supporters are not demanding Trump to make any pledge. So in this case Trump is not tied to any other lobby group or special interest. Mark of a good campaign. What I like about Trump is his determination to win not necessarily his policies, but only a fool or an overly passionate supporter goes for the notion that he will completely change America.

    So trump is telling lies in running under the GOP banner but just going to do his own thing.


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    #225
    KingBrian2
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    Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
    So trump is telling lies in running under the GOP banner but just going to do his own thing.

    You can't get elected in America unless your in one of the two major parties. You just can't. It ain't a multiparty democracy. Neither Trump nor Obama were conventional candidates for their respective parties.


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    #226
    Pro Hoc Vice
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    You can't get elected in America unless your in one of the two major parties. You just can't. It ain't a multiparty democracy. Neither Trump nor Obama were conventional candidates for their respective parties.

    There are 4 people running, if trump was honest he would have run independent, if all these people are supporting as you say because he not of the system.


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    #227
    KingBrian2
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    Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
    There are 4 people running, if trump was honest he would have run independent, if all these people are supporting as you say because he not of the system.

    I wouldn't bet the house a Socialist would get elected.


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    #228
    CMOTDibbler
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    I wouldn't bet the house a Socialist would get elected.
    Trump is a socialist now? :eek:


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    #229
    KingBrian2
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    CMOTDibbler wrote: »
    Trump is a socialist now? :eek:

    Was not saying that but once again Trump is right about Americans not wanting European style socialism.


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    #230
    intellectual dosser
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    Just heard that crazy and very dumb @morningmika had a mental breakdown while talking about me on the low ratings @morning_joe. Joe a mess!

    A tweet from Donald Trump last Friday.

    For someone who allys with the NRA and their assertion that guns dont kill people but mental illness does, you'd think he'd show a bit more respect and not use it as a derogatary sticker to put on people who dont agree with him.

    It's no wonder that people are 'unbiased' towards Trump, he deserves every bit of public ridicule he gets.


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    #231
    Overheal
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    That's not really his hallmark moment though,

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/01/ann-coulter-says-she-can-prove-donald-trump-never-mocked-a-reporters-disability-she-cant/


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    #232
    Overheal
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    And oh yeah, that tax return he said he'd release? He wont:

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-i-dont-think-anyone-cares-about-my-tax-returns/


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    #233
    KingBrian2
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    intellectual dosser wrote: »
    Just heard that crazy and very dumb @morningmika had a mental breakdown while talking about me on the low ratings @morning_joe. Joe a mess!

    A tweet from Donald Trump last Friday.

    For someone who allys with the NRA and their assertion that guns dont kill people but mental illness does, you'd think he'd show a bit more respect and not use it as a derogatary sticker to put on people who dont agree with him.

    It's no wonder that people are 'unbiased' towards Trump, he deserves every bit of public ridicule he gets.

    Yet AIPAC is untouched by the political establishment. The GOP & Democrats shower those guys with praise. Attacking Trump for attending an NRA meeting has become standard procedure for the Liberals while some of the other conferences go unmentioned. His recent attendance at a Black Church or a meeting with the Mexican President gets zero approval from any liberal. Upsets the narrative that he is a maniac unfit to become President.


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    #234
    PopePalpatine
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    Do you really think Trump would stop the love-in between the GOP and AIPAC?


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    #235
    KingBrian2
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    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Do you really think Trump would stop the love-in between the GOP and AIPAC?

    Hillary cares as much about preserving relations to organizations like AIPAC as the GOP does. It has been to the chagrin of liberals they accuse Trump of being a Neo Nazi. He has little or zero in common with them other than wanting to control the number of immigrants admitted into the country.


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    #236
    Pro Hoc Vice
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Yet AIPAC is untouched by the political establishment. The GOP & Democrats shower those guys with praise. Attacking Trump for attending an NRA meeting has become standard procedure for the Liberals while some of the other conferences go unmentioned. His recent attendance at a Black Church or a meeting with the Mexican President gets zero approval from any liberal. Upsets the narrative that he is a maniac unfit to become President.

    Both events had huge coverage. Why do you make up things.


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    #237
    PopePalpatine
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    I wouldn't call a man who read from a teleprompter at an AIPAC event as someone who has "little or zero in common with them".


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    #238
    KingBrian2
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    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    I wouldn't call a man who read from a teleprompter at an AIPAC event as someone who has "little or zero in common with them".

    Now your taking what I said out of context. Trump has zero in common with neo-Nazis contrary to the media spin that Trump needs to appeal to Black voters. That is a trick the Democrats have used for decades. Divide politics along racial lines. Whites, Blacks, Asians & so forte which completely misses out that America is a vast nation and by portioning American citizens into colors each party can jostle for power between them.

    By using such a method Trump could gain the Jewish vote very easily by attacking Muslims. Such methods are distinctly bigoted. Trump on the other hand sides with all law abiding citizens of America regardless of creed or colour so long as you respect the flag and the veterans. He is very quick to point out his enemies are not Muslim American citizens or Mexican American citizens. A slight yet important distinction.


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    #239
    Overheal
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    That is a trick the Democrats have used for decades. Divide politics along racial lines. Whites, Blacks, Asians
    So the GOP does not, in fact, pursue constituents by demographic divides such as sex, age, race, or religion?


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    Billy86
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    Overheal wrote: »
    That is a trick the Democrats have used for decades. Divide politics along racial lines. Whites, Blacks, Asians
    So the GOP does not, in fact, pursue constituents by demographic divides such as sex, age, race, or religion?
    Kingbrian2, look up THE SOUTHERN STRATEGY

    I am giving you a massive benefit of the doubt in assuming you don't already know exactly what it is, but go ahead and look it up, because this is a classic example of lack of education, on which -again giving the full benefit of the doubt here- you appear to have none of when it comes to the Southern Strategy. If you had any, you would realise that what you just said is about as smart as claiming Republicans have been courting as many Mexicans as possible for years.


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    KingBrian2
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    Kingbrian2, look up THE SOUTHERN STRATEGY

    I am giving you a massive benefit of the doubt in assuming you don't already know exactly what it is, but go ahead and look it up, because this is a classic example of lack of education, on which -again giving the full benefit of the doubt here- you appear to have none of when it comes to the Southern Strategy. If you had any, you would realise that what you just said is about as smart as claiming Republicans have been courting as many Mexicans as possible for years.

    Here's my answer to your accusation of a southern strategy



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