Apple Event - 7th September 2016

Irish_Elect_Eng

awec wrote: »

IMO it's not worth buying the stuff in the states. The savings are small compared to the potential hassle if it breaks.

I have bought a lot of Apple gear in the states and initially I brought them back to the original store when there were issues. That stopped when a Genius told me that there was no problem with returning them to any apple premium re-seller worldwide. I have since had 2 issues sorted out quickly by an Irish re-seller, including one replacement.

The one exclusion is AppleCare, do not buy the US AppleCare, buy their Irish product instead if you want to protect the device.

Creamy Goodness

DubDJ wrote: »

That's worrying, I didn't even question the change because I assumed Apple would nail the execution. Hate to hear that it's actually a step back.

One person's opinion based on about 45 seconds of use. As that's pretty much all they'd get in the hands-on area.

Bob24

DubDJ wrote: »

That's worrying, I didn't even question the change because I assumed Apple would nail the execution. Hate to hear that it's actually a step back.

Same here - I just assumed it could only work well as Apple nailed it the first time with ForceTouch trackpads.

One more worry is that Engadget have posted something pretty consistent with what The Verge have said (though not as negative) - so it is not just one guy's personal taste.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/07/iphone-7-and-7-plus-hands-on-preview/

"Man, that new Home button is weird. iPhone newcomers won't have any trouble adapting to the change, but it feels almost jarring to someone who has used iPhones pretty regularly since the 4's launch in 2010. It works like force-pressing one of Apple's new Macbook trackpads, but it doesn't really feel like it -- you'll feel a blip from the phone's Taptic Engine instead of feeling the button depress like you're using a 3D Touch gesture on the screen."

Bob24

Irish_Elect_Eng wrote: »

I have bought a lot of Apple gear in the states and initially I brought them back to the original store when there were issues. That stopped when a Genius told me that there was no problem with returning them to any apple premium re-seller worldwide. I have since had 2 issues sorted out quickly by an Irish re-seller, including one replacement.

The one exclusion is AppleCare, do not buy the US AppleCare, buy their Irish product instead if you want to protect the device.

Apple has different policies depending on what kind of hardware needs repair. It has always been a cleat policy that laptops have global warranties (at least when they have applecare but I think also without it). On the other hand to my knowledge and unless it changed recently, it was never written black-on white anywhere that iPhone have international warranties.

bee06

The wireless airpods will be €179 euro here! Crazy money. They launches some new Beats as well including Beats X earphones what look like they'd do a better job if you had that kind of money to play with. Wireless but with a cable connecting them, 8 hours playback for 150 euro. The earbuds are magnetic as well so they click together when they're around your neck which I think is kinda cool.

ibFoxer

Bob24 wrote: »

Same here - I just assumed it could only work well as Apple nailed it the first time with ForceTouch trackpads.

One more worry is that Engadget have posted something pretty consistent with what The Verge have said (though not as negative) - so it is not just one guy's personal taste.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/07/iphone-7-and-7-plus-hands-on-preview/

"Man, that new Home button is weird. iPhone newcomers won't have any trouble adapting to the change, but it feels almost jarring to someone who has used iPhones pretty regularly since the 4's launch in 2010. It works like force-pressing one of Apple's new Macbook trackpads, but it doesn't really feel like it -- you'll feel a blip from the phone's Taptic Engine instead of feeling the button depress like you're using a 3D Touch gesture on the screen."

That of course could be because of being used to the same thing since forever. I'm certain it's going to be easily adaptable to.

Oafley Jones

bee06 wrote: »

The wireless airpods will be €179 euro here! Crazy money. They launches some new Beats as well including Beats X earphones what look like they'd do a better job if you had that kind of money to play with. Wireless but with a cable connecting them, 8 hours playback for 150 euro. The earbuds are magnetic as well so they click together when they're around your neck which I think is kinda cool.

They've nicked that from bang & olufsen. It's a handy feature. Btw, if you're lucky your can pick up the H5s for close to the 179 Apple are charging on Amazon sometimes. You can guarantee they'll sound far better than any beats or Apple product.

Bob24

ibFoxer wrote: »

That of course could be because of being used to the same thing since forever. I'm certain it's going to be easily adaptable to.

Yes that is true. Having said that the first time I tried a ForceTouch trackpad it immediately felt 100% natural and didn't require any adaptation period.

ibFoxer

Bob24 wrote: »

Yes that is true. Having said that the first time I tried a ForceTouch trackpad it immediately felt 100% natural and didn't require any adaptation period.

The first time i used 3D Touch i didn't quite get it, so i can see how the new home button could be a wreck the head, initially.

I still haven't decided on the phone, but i will definitely try to grab the new watch.

stimpson

One thing I noticed with the Airpods is that there is no mention of Bluetooth on the product page. The chip is the W1 and during the keynote they were called Wireless headphones. Could they be using wifi instead of Bluetooth. Fingers crossed as Bluetooth audio is beyond awful. This might convince me to cut the cord.

Bob24

ibFoxer wrote: »

Bob24 wrote: »

Yes that is true. Having said that the first time I tried a ForceTouch trackpad it immediately felt 100% natural and didn't require any adaptation period.

The first time i used 3D Touch i didn't quite get it, so i can see how the new home button could be a wreck the head, initially.

I still haven't decided on the phone, but i will definitely try to grab the new watch.

It's different though. 3D Touch was not replacing an actual physical button and was obviously going to be something new. ForceTouch on the laptops and this new home button don't have to feel strange.

Dades

Dammit, the inclusion of OIS, stereo speakers and all the new wireless tech has swung me.

I actually like the new AirPods. I spend a lot of time switching between calls and podcasts on the move, rarely music, and have been dying to ditch the wires.

128GB, matt black 7 for me, it seems.

Bob24

Btw is anyone else wondering why Apple didn't seem to include in the new iPhone the same True Tone display as in the latest iPad Pro. Having it on the iPad, I find it an unfortunates inconsistency that both devices could not display the same adjusted colours in the same conditions.

Oafley Jones

Dades wrote: »

Dammit, the inclusion of OIS, stereo speakers and all the new wireless tech has swung me.

I actually like the new AirPods. I spend a lot of time switching between calls and podcasts on the move, rarely music, and have been dying to ditch the wires.

128GB, matt black 7 for me, it seems.

You've more faith than I that Apple has managed to create something that actually sounds decent. Did they mention anything other than the w1 chips. Like drivers etc. Other wireless buds will allow you to take calls, skip tracks etc.

murpho999

I lose and break far too many headphones to spend €179 on them regardless of them being bluetooth.

Being wireless makes them look much easier to lose as well.

Creamy Goodness

murpho999 wrote: »

I lose and break far too many headphones to spend €179 on them regardless of them being bluetooth.

Being wireless makes them look much easier to lose as well.

Loads of people are saying this. TBH they aren't for me (at least until I try them) as I've yet to have a good sounding Bluetooth earphones.

I don't think I'd lose these, they'll be in my ears or they'll be in the case. If they fall out of my ears I'll notice. The case is big enough to notice it going missing imo.

Other people on twitter complaining about not being able to take a 5 hour flight with them. Who listens for 5 hours straight? Also one Irish journalist asked them how fast they charged and they said 15 minutes charge gives you 3 hours.

Again must reiterate they're most likely not for me, they're priced accordingly for 1) an Apple product 2) the tech that's included, e.g. The infra-red sensors, the fact the battery level is streamed real time to the iPhone unlike other Bluetooth buds where it'll sit on 60% for ages and then suddenly drop to 10% just before you pop on the bus.

Oh and the craziest thing is for all the haters (not directed at anyone here btw)? You don't have to buy them. Simples

ibFoxer

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

Loads of people are saying this. TBH they aren't for me (at least until I try them) as I've yet to have a good sounding Bluetooth earphones.

I don't think I'd lose these, they'll be in my ears or they'll be in the case. If they fall out of my ears I'll notice. The case is big enough to notice it going missing imo.

Other people on twitter complaining about not being able to take a 5 hour flight with them. Who listens for 5 hours straight? Also one Irish journalist asked them how fast they charged and they said 15 minutes charge gives you 3 hours.

Again must reiterate they're most likely not for me, they're priced accordingly for 1) an Apple product 2) the tech that's included, e.g. The infra-red sensors, the fact the battery level is streamed real time to the iPhone unlike other Bluetooth buds where it'll sit on 60% for ages and then suddenly drop to 10% just before you pop on the bus.

Oh and the craziest thing is for all the haters (not directed at anyone here btw)? You don't have to buy them. Simples

I don't follow......:pac:

All joking aside, as someone rightly pointed out, the Beats X are looking a better option....

GreatDefector

Nobody can use airpods, value for money and beats in the same sentence

murpho999

Also, just saw the Apple Watch Series 2 upgrade. Must admit the water proof feature makes it tempting as I could use it for swimming.

It's going to make it a serious competitor in the fitness market especially for tri-athletes that mostly use Garmin.

super_furry

If Bose bring out a 2.5mm to Lightning Port cable for their headphones, I think I'll get an iPhone 7, if not I really don't think I will unless that adapter is really solid.

CJmasgrande

I'm very disappointed no wireless charging and still the same flimsy lightning charging cable.

The cables are dreadful no thanks apple

DubDJ

I doubt Bose will update their headphones with a new cable as they just released a wireless version during the week. Most likely that was their solution to the iPhone 7 headphone jack removal.

miralize

So are people going the UK/GBP route? It's about 60 cheaper for the Jet Black 128GB. will Apple even allow it? Given that a few years ago they blocked Parcel Motel & similar services etc

The Ayatolla

They never blocked Parcel motel? I've done it twice in the last 3/4 years.

Gonna use Revolut and Parcel Motel. Save a good bit on the Irish price.

miralize

The Ayatolla wrote: »

They never blocked Parcel motel? I've done it twice in the last 3/4 years.

Gonna use Revolut and Parcel Motel. Save a good bit on the Irish price.

Well they cancelled one of my and many other orders at one point to only reinstate it after complaints. Now that Ireland is Tier 1 my assumption is that they will probably go back to doing this

murpho999

miralize wrote: »

Well they cancelled one of my and many other orders at one point to only reinstate it after complaints. Now that Ireland is Tier 1 my assumption is that they will probably go back to doing this

But they changed it and there was no issue with the 6s or other product launches since so why would they do it now?

Also, will you really save that much. You generally don't get the rate as seen on the internet then there are bank fees as well, wonder if you really save that much.

NewApproach

Also questionable if youll still get the extended 6 year eu warranty if the UK leaves the eu at some stage in the interim

murpho999

NewApproach wrote: »

Also questionable if youll still get the extended 6 year eu warranty if the UK leaves the eu at some stage in the interim

Might not happen for years, so I wouldn't let that put you off.

Also, who knows what form of Brexit it will be.

The Ayatolla

murpho999 wrote: »

Also, will you really save that much. You generally don't get the rate as seen on the internet then there are bank fees as well, wonder if you really save that much.

You seriously need to invest in a Revolut card. I'll save 50-60 euro by using the UK route. I suggest you read up on it.

murpho999

The Ayatolla wrote: »

You seriously need to invest in a Revolut card. I'll save 50-60 euro by using the UK route. I suggest you read up on it.

Thanks, just googled it, looks interesting.

Had never heard of it before.