How much to spend on tyres?

sellasheep

Had 4 new tyres fitted to my Mondeo today at a cost of €55 each. I do 25km a year. 15 inch tyres that is. Is it possible I spent too little and should have perhaps went for a more expensive tyre?

dogmatix

55 euros a tyre sounds suspiciously cheap. But while they might not be Michelins or Goodyears etc, they could still be a good budget brand. What brand are they?

eeguy

sellasheep wrote: »

Had 4 new tyres fitted to my Mondeo today at a cost of €55 each. I do 25km a year. 15 inch tyres that is. Is it possible I spent too little and should have perhaps went for a more expensive tyre?

Depends on the make. You could have got a good deal on decent tyres or a bad deal on crap tyres.

Atlantic Dawn

€55 each will be ditchfinders, expect skidding and wheelspins, you would be nearer €80-€100 for a premium brand.

OldMrBrennan83

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sellasheep

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

€55 each will be ditchfinders, expect skidding and wheelspins, you would be nearer €80-€100 for a premium brand.

Oh ffs surely they can't be that bad.

b_mac2

sellasheep wrote: »

Oh ffs surely they can't be that bad.

What brand are they?

James Bond Junior

sellasheep wrote: »

Oh ffs surely they can't be that bad.

Believe that they can. I was driving a transit with austone tyres recently and it was spinning in 3rd gear in the wet. They are lethal, how they are legal for sale is beyond me.

punisher5112

Exact same car and the other one got a puncture brought it to Tyre place to patch which they could have done the Tyre had over 4mm left but no it needed a new Tyre.

I was shocked to see what cost €72.86 it was a ditch finder from China. It has changed handling drastically and will not be staying on the car.

macker64

Never ever skimp on your tyres or your breaks. Try Tyreland and go for premium brands only

Kings Inns or bust

Been meaning to start a thread on this so as the OP won't tell us the brand - how about good brands being recommended?

Due to various shenanigans I had three different crap brands on the car at one point, no bother but as they're being replaced now I'd prefer not to continue to tempt fate.

sellasheep

As for the brand - they are "Fullrun" 205/ 55R16 91V

fancy pigeon

punisher5112 wrote: »

Exact same car and the other one got a puncture brought it to Tyre place to patch which they could have done the Tyre had over 4mm left but no it needed a new Tyre.

I was shocked to see what cost 72.86 it was a ditch finder from China. It has changed handling drastically and will not be staying on the car.

About 5k miles ago I bought 4 new pirellis, at a cost of 65 per corner. Fitted, balanced and fitted to the car....

16 inch tyres for a Mercedes

pablo128

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Fullrun/HP199.htm

Read those reviews. Scary reading.

Reputable Rog

I find Aelous tyres very good and get about 25k+ out of them.

eeguy

pablo128 wrote: »

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Fullrun/HP199.htm

Read those reviews. Scary reading.

buy if u wana die

:eek::eek:

sellasheep

pablo128 wrote: »

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Fullrun/HP199.htm

Read those reviews. Scary reading.

Just after reading a few. Looks like I threw away €225. I'm getting them all replaced in 2 weeks with €80 Bridgestone tyres.

eeguy

sellasheep wrote: »

Just after reading a few. Looks like I threw away €225. I'm getting them all replaced in 2 weeks with €80 Bridgestone tyres.

You can probably sell them.

Someone will take them off you, maybe for a trailer.

Reputable Rog

sellasheep wrote: »

Just after reading a few. Looks like I threw away €225. I'm getting them all replaced in 2 weeks with €80 Bridgestone tyres.

What make are they?

sellasheep

Reputable Rog wrote: »

What make are they?

Fullrun. I had no idea they were a dangerous tyre from what I've read.

Does anybody know what is a good premium brand? What would I expect to pay for a Goodyear or Bridgestone tyres?

Fluffy Cat 88

Got 4 new tyres on my Golf today. "Yokohama" cost €285 with tracking included in the price.

I've been using that brand for years so hoping the quality has stayed the same

deandean

Jebus that Tyrereview for Fullrun is the worst I have ever seen. Worse than Triangles, I didn't think that was possible.
After one nasty and expensive experience I pay about 450 for a set of 4 tyres. Flavour of the month is Michelin Cross climates, they are very suited to Irish conditions.
Those cheap tyres, braking on a downhill in the rain, you will be cursing the day you bought them.

Trojan

I've been looking at this a fair bit lately.

Top brands seem to be Michelin, Continental, Pirelli and maybe Yokohama.

Below that the medium range seems to be something like follows: GoodYear, Dunlop, Bridgestone, Firestone, Kumho, Nokian, Hankook, Federal, Uniroyal, Vredstein, Nangkang, Semperit.

Below that, the low end of mid-range tyres. Below that, the "ditchfinders".

Online discussion of tyre choice is almost a religious or political issue - you'll see people slamming a brand that others claim is just below premium level. Someone here is going to disagree that something I've listed above is in the wrong list.

For every single tyre you look up, reviews will include someone talking about how it's bad and you should get something better.

One suggestion I got recently was to get part-worn premiums rather than new low-mid range tyres as they'll be better quality and last longer. And the alternative viewpoint, a friend of mine reckons all part-worn tyres are effectively death-traps.

Big Nasty

Bought a Mondeo for the woman recently. Came with four 'good' tyres. Didn't pay a whole lot of attention to them at the time as the car felt good and solid and handled well - in the dry. In wet weather they're pure sh1te, spinning away from junctions like you'd expect from a bald tyre. Turns out they're Chinese sh1te, don't ask me the brand now because I never heard of them.

For comparison I've got Goodyears on my 2.5 RWD 5er and it's almost impossible to activate the traction wet or dry. :eek:

Will be replacing the tyres on the Mondeo this week.

Esel

Trojan wrote: »

One suggestion I got recently was to get part-worn premiums rather than new low-mid range tyres as they'll be better quality and last longer. And the alternative viewpoint, a friend of mine reckons all part-worn tyres are effectively death-traps.

So, when your friend buys a used car, he/she immediately replaces the tyres? If not, they are talking through their hoop.

Fluffy Cat 88

Trojan wrote: »

I've been looking at this a fair bit lately.

Top brands seem to be Michelin, Continental, Pirelli and maybe Yokohama.

Below that the medium range seems to be something like follows: GoodYear, Dunlop, Bridgestone, Firestone, Kumho, Nokian, Hankook, Federal, Uniroyal, Vredstein, Nangkang, Semperit.

Below that, the low end of mid-range tyres. Below that, the "ditchfinders".

Online discussion of tyre choice is almost a religious or political issue - you'll see people slamming a brand that others claim is just below premium level. Someone here is going to disagree that something I've listed above is in the wrong list.

For every single tyre you look up, reviews will include someone talking about how it's bad and you should get something better.

One suggestion I got recently was to get part-worn premiums rather than new low-mid range tyres as they'll be better quality and last longer. And the alternative viewpoint, a friend of mine reckons all part-worn tyres are effectively death-traps.

It's amazing how many people actually buy "ditch finders" or part-worn tyres. I'm no car expert but what is the point of a good car with sh1te tyres? Handling is important to me though, as I drive on sh1te back roads mostly.

"Oh I know a place doing second hand tyres for €25". These people need a good slap!

Atlantic Dawn

Out of interest what sales routine did the tyre place have or did you say you wanted the cheapest they had?

OldMrBrennan83

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Reputable Rog

sellasheep wrote: »

Fullrun. I had no idea they were a dangerous tyre from what I've read.

Does anybody know what is a good premium brand? What would I expect to pay for a Goodyear or Bridgestone tyres?

A good economy tyre I recommend is Aelous who happen to make Pirelli, they're now more mid range than economy. R15 about €65 a corner tracked and balanced.

Esel

Fluffy Cat 88 wrote: »

It's amazing how many people actually buy "ditch finders" or part-worn tyres. I'm no car expert but what is the point of a good car with sh1te tyres? Handling is important to me though, as I drive on sh1te back roads mostly.

"Oh I know a place doing second hand tyres for €25". These people need a good slap!

See my post above yours.

sellasheep

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Out of interest what sales routine did the tyre place have or did you say you wanted the cheapest they had?

When I entered the premises, a guy came out to the car with me and offered me 4 new tyres despite only needing 3 ( he said the spare was well worn ). He said he would put on 4 new tyres and put the old good tyre with depth on the spare. He asked if I would like to go for the €55 tyres or the €80. He said the €80 would only be recommended for motorway and high milage driving and I would be grand with the €55 set.

Out of interest, how much would a michelin tyre be for the mondeo?

cnoc

I always use Bridgestone Turanza tyres and personally never had a problem with them.

Sono

I would never penny pinch on tyres ever.

OldMrBrennan83

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bazz26

OP, 205/55/R16 is probably the most common tyre size used these days. You don't have to spend huge money to get a good well regarded tyre in this size.

Hankook are a good mid range brand @ around €59 each:
http://www.oponeo.ie/details-tyre/hankook-ventus-prime3-k125-205-55-r16-91-h-mfs#117661628

If you do want to go for a premium brand then you have these Goodyears for €68:
http://www.oponeo.ie/details-tyre/goodyear-efficientgrip-performance-205-55-r16-91-v#117243147

Now the prices above are online prices for the tyres on their own. You will be talking about another €50/60 to have them balanced and fitted locally. I'd ring around a few bricks and mortar tyre centres and get prices on those tyres from them including fitting. Sometimes it can be hard to find a place that fits tyres you buy from the internet and prices can be similar.

For Forks Sake

pablo128 wrote: »

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Fullrun/HP199.htm

Read those reviews. Scary reading.

What grade of lunatic fits these to (and I'll use merely the first two examples) a 325i and a Civic TypeR??

Mycroft H

A gobshíte who bought a car for it's badge and knows nothing more until it's too late.

porsche boy

sellasheep wrote:

As for the brand - they are "Fullrun" 205/ 55R16 91V

Fullrun are a low end budget brand. Fine if you totter along but the first bit of wet and you'll be surprised at ten lack of grip. Other tyres in this category are Wanli, Sunny, Sinew, Pneus, Landsail, Autogrip, Triple A & BTC. I'm sure someone will be along soon to add to that list.
On the other hand, Semperit would be the beginning of the midrange stuff and would be around €80. Dunlop, Bridgestone, firestone, Pirelli, Continental & Michelin would all be more, up to around €130 each for Michelin.

Trojan

Esel wrote: »

So, when your friend buys a used car, he/she immediately replaces the tyres? If not, they are talking through their hoop.

He did actually. He put a set of Kumho ECSTA KU39s on.

But just to summarise the argument for part-worns:

1. You can get a better quality brand for your money so it's actually safer.
2. If you hire a rental, or take a bus, taxi or lift from a friend, you're on part-worns.

The argument against part-worns:

1. You don't know their history or condition.
2. You're driving on them longer in your own car than you'd be in someone elses vehicle.

sellasheep

Should I just keep the Fullrun tyres for now or change?

delly

Buying tyres is a process that you need to be educated on before you even walk into a tyre shop. Most people will have a budget and that'll be that, whereas you can get decent enough brands for the same price as the really bad brands, but who'll tell you the difference when you're face to face with a guy holding a pneumatic air gun?

In my own case last year I bought new Kormoran tyres for I think €60 per corner fitted. Online reviews are generally ok, but do comment on quick wear and road noise at higher speeds. In my case the car will do 2k to 3k miles per year on local runs, so fits the bill once it has good handling in the wet, which it does.

A Law

porsche boy wrote: »

Fullrun are a low end budget brand. Fine if you totter along but the first bit of wet and you'll be surprised at ten lack of grip. Other tyres in this category are Wanli, Sunny, Sinew, Pneus, Landsail, Autogrip, Triple A & BTC. I'm sure someone will be along soon to add to that list.
On the other hand, Semperit would be the beginning of the midrange stuff and would be around €80. Dunlop, Bridgestone, firestone, Pirelli, Continental & Michelin would all be more, up to around €130 each for Michelin.

I bought a car with wanli on it. Road noise was nothing short of ridiculous, let alone the performance in the wet. Had a few scary moments on roundabouts even though I knew I was driving on **** tyres.

Upgraded to hancooks, difference is incredible. How these tyres can be sold is a disgrace. Insurance companies should start asking what tyres are on cars.

Bigus

Apparently the chinese tyres coming into Ireland are not the same spec as allowed into Germany, so we get the worst of the worst in non main brand tyres.

THread carefully

Kings Inns or bust

Lads (and possibly lasses) thanks for the posts. I know they weren't aimed directly at me but I've actually a bit of a clue now thanks to the excellent post listing brands and the link to a review site.

Cheers again!

The Backwards Man

I don't care what tyres I have under my feet as long as they are Uniroyal

mickdw

I notice very good pricing on online sites recently. I guess the sterling to euro rate has alot to do with it.

eeguy

mickdw wrote: »

I notice very good pricing on online sites recently. I guess the sterling to euro rate has alot to do with it.

The issue is getting someone to fit the tyres for you.

I've heard that any online savings are mitigated by garages charging a premium to fit tyres.

They know you can't do it yourself, so either your pay up or are left with 4 useless bits of rubber.

OldMrBrennan83

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Kings Inns or bust

mickdw wrote: »

I notice very good pricing on online sites recently. I guess the sterling to euro rate has alot to do with it.

Is the UK still a major manufacturing centre for tyres?

mickdw

Kings Inns or bust wrote: »

Is the UK still a major manufacturing centre for tyres?

No but somehow our prices seem to be based on uk prices. Maybe due to large uk distributors or something.

Pugzilla

You should actually look at the exact model of tyre and the reviews it got rather than mindlessly buying
based on brand alone.