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Amstrong Cup 2016/17

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  • #102
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Would that not be counter-productive though?

    Say every team starts to sandbag board 1 v Gonzaga. Suddenly Sam Collins is basically playing board 8 v 1700s. Would he bother?


  • #103
    macelligott
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭macelligott


    The 150 point rule has been very successful and I see no reason to change it. I suspect several people would give up Armstrong or Heidenfeld chess were it removed. In fact some might argue there should be a 100 point rule!


  • #104
    Rathminor
    Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭Rathminor


    Heard that Blanchardstown were relegated with Phibsboro this afternoon although they did have a strong line up for the last round including John Delaney on B1.
    Full results should flow through later.


  • #105
    ComDubh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭ComDubh


    It's a free world and if Gonzaga players want to create and maintain a 'superteam', more power to them. Some of the Gonzaga players (Delaney and Murray come to mind) have improved a lot recently. I think this comes from playing on a cohesive and highly-motivated team, and that more than compensates for the low board they have to play on.


  • #106
    sodacat11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭sodacat11


    ComDubh wrote: »
    It's a free world and if Gonzaga players want to create and maintain a 'superteam', more power to them. Some of the Gonzaga players (Delaney and Murray come to mind) have improved a lot recently. I think this comes from playing on a cohesive and highly-motivated team, and that more than compensates for the low board they have to play on.

    No doubt it is good,,,,,,,,,,for Gonzaga. The fact that the league is completely uncompetitive is probably one of the reasons that the Armstrong is so much less than it used to be these days. Cold uncomfortable venues that can be hard to get to is another deterrent as is the amount of games played on Saturdays instead of midweek. Giving up a weekend for a tournament is perfectly worthwhile but giving up a Saturday for just one game, which could end very quickly is a no no as far as I'm concerned.
    How to improve the Armstrong? Reduce it to six boards a match. Play all games in the one venue , two matches at a time, morning and afternoon. Set rating bands for each board or have a maximum average for each team to even things up a bit.


  • #107
    ComDubh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭ComDubh


    Why do so many strong players play with Gonzaga? Why do players who could be Board 1 on most Armstrong teams prefer to player a lower board with Gonzaga?

    A partial answer is simply that Gonzaga actively recruit new players. Who else invited Stephen Jessel to play for them last year?

    Gonzaga have set a high bar for winning the Armstrong and the other clubs should try to step up.

    Or else come to boards.ie to complain :-)


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