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SimonMaher

Avatar MIA wrote: »

I was interested in a young radio station being close to profitability so early in its life cycle. Looking at the filed accounts Dublin Rock Radio Limited made a loss of €660K for year ending 31-10-08 bringing total accumulated losses to approx €1.6m. For the following year Phantom made losses of approx €780k, bringing total losses to approx €2.4m.

It's possible the CEO or FC said they were close to breaking even for a particular month in 2008, but it's hard to see how Phantom were within a whisker of breaking even in 2008.

As you said, in trading terms, Phantom in early 2008 actually had months where income exceeded expenditure - despite the ridiculously high cost base! However, once revenue fell over the cliff it really bombed. We went from covering 60-100% of monthly costs in early 2008 to covering maybe 25% later in the year and credit control became a serious issue.

Business model for Phantom back then was nuts, but needed to be to get it past the BAI and of course, the mid-2000's (when the application was made) was generally nuts. By the time the crash came we were screwed to the wall and we made adjustments to the output as much as the model and once you're in that situation, it all gets a bit scary.

Anyway, apologies for taking this one off topic, I'll be good from now on. Sorry mods!

Simon

Big Nasty

So it's nigh on impossible to have a 'decent music' radio station under current BAI rules. I.e. if it doesn't appeal to the masses then you don't have the listenership and in turn don't have the revenue to survive. I presume that's why you didn't go after the TXFM licence Simon?

Any hope of the BAI revising / relaxing their requirements for alt stations? If not what's the plan with 8Radio, i.e. if it can never be commercially viable what's the long term hope with the current temp licence?

EDIT: posted this question in the 8Radio thread as more suited to there.

former total

The argument seems to be that if Nova played more varied or obscure tracks by well-known artists, then this would be a good thing. Fair enough.

However, it is simply NOT what your average radio listener wants. They want to turn on the radio, hear something they know and like, sing along to it in the car or kitchen, and get on with their day. If you're listening from 7 am to 7 pm, you're going to get well-known music because commercial operators have to try to cater to their audiences and that's what the audience wants. Later in the evenings, you'll get more specialised stuff because hardly anyone is listening.

There's a weird misunderstanding on this thread of what Nova is or is trying to be. It is not an alt-rock or indie station, it is not a metal or a grunge station. It most definitely is not a replacement for TXFM. It is a classic rock station. That is what they play.

Edit: the other misunderstanding is that they should, for some reason, not play recent music, that anything pre-2000 should not be on Nova. Not sure where that's coming from either.

prunudo

" It is a classic rock station. That is what they play"

On paper that's what it is, but how is Mgmt kids or bastille classic rock. I've no problem playing newer stuff but at least keep it rock orientated.

Big Nasty

If I'm not mistaken Nova's MO is 'feel good guitar music' or something like that as opposed to Classic Rock.

former total

Big Nasty wrote: »

If I'm not mistaken Nova's MO is 'feel good guitar music' or something like that as opposed to Classic Rock.

Their licence is for classic rock.

former total

jvan wrote: »

" It is a classic rock station. That is what they play"

On paper that's what it is, but how is Mgmt kids or bastille classic rock. I've no problem playing newer stuff but at least keep it rock orientated.

Those bands are at the poppier end of the spectrum alright but still basically vocals, guitar, keyboard and drums. Whether you consider them rock or pop is probably down to whether or not you like them, but it's not like they're playing David Guetta and Little Mix.

nice_guy80

I'm going to complain to the BAI

Declan A Walsh

Big Nasty wrote: »

If I'm not mistaken Nova's MO is 'feel good guitar music' or something like that as opposed to Classic Rock.

This was the announcement from the BCI in 2008:
"The Broadcasting Commission of Ireland (BCI) has today (March 28th) placed an advertisement in the national press, seeking applications to operate a classic rock service......."

" ....The service, which will be on the FM band, will be primarily music driven with a strong emphasis on classic rock music. The franchise area to be served is Dublin City and County and the commuter belt."

This was on the Radio Nova website from 2008:
A group comprising experienced radio investors has submitted an application to the Broadcasting Commission of Ireland to operate a ‘classic rock’ music radio station, aimed at Dublin city, county and the ‘commuter belt’ around the capital. Radio Nova 100 intends to provide a ‘first-rate and distinctive’ station, playing classic rock music from the 1960s to the present day, featuring some of the greatest rock artists of all time – as well as news, sport and local information.

Article from Allaccess.com:
RADIO NOVA 100, a consortium of Irish business interests backed by VIENNA INVESTMENTS, has won the license for a new Classic Rock station serving DUBLIN, IRELAND.


This all says that the BCI were looking for applications for a Classic Rock License, Radio Nova applied for same and said they were.

Big Nasty

I stand corrected. What's the cut off point for classic though I wonder, or is there one?

former total

Big Nasty wrote: »

I stand corrected. What's the cut off point for classic though I wonder, or is there one?

In terms of 60s/70s/80s like? No, there is no cutoff. You could release a classic rock song tomorrow.

Grolschevik

former total wrote:

In terms of 60s/70s/80s like? No, there is no cutoff. You could release a classic rock song tomorrow.

Yeah, it's a genre now. The Answer would be considered classic rock. Not a hope of them being played on Nova anytime soon, though!

hullaballoo

The answer is classic rock is the unlistenable tripe that old men who rode a motorbike once like.

Grolschevik

hullaballoo wrote:

The answer is classic rock is the unlistenable tripe that old men who rode a motorbike once like.

Don't stop believing.

Max Headroom

hullaballoo wrote: »

The answer is classic rock is the unlistenable tripe that old men who rode a motorbike once like.

Ouch..guilty and guilty....:p

You could be right...but Nova is definately NOT catering to this group...i actually cant decide who they are aiming their music at...probably people who like Lizzy but also have a Coldplay album and possibly a couple of Wolf tones too....Theyre the ones that stand around at gigs talking and taking "selfies".."..this is us at Metallica.....and this is us at Beyonce.....

galwaytt

hullaballoo wrote: »

The answer is classic rock is the unlistenable tripe that old men who rode a motorbike once like.

this says you're wrong on both counts..........classic song about a classic motorbike and.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlumFUwKVk0

Birneybau

hullaballoo wrote: »

The answer is classic rock is the unlistenable tripe that old men who rode a motorbike once like.

Or, Jeremy Clarkson and Richard Hammond's probable preferred genre.

Declan A Walsh

LEGENDARY BROADCASTER COLM HAYES RETURNS TO RADIO

It’s been a while (well not that long)! Colm Hayes finished on RTÉ 2FM at the end of July and since then the Dublin broadcaster has been missing on radio. He's has been working on numerous projects and has just completed his first novel, a crime fiction thriller.

Now, Colm is set to return to radio, where he will guest present ‘John Clarke’s Biggest Jukebox’ on Radio NOVA for the next 3 Sundays.

One phone call from Dublin’s seriously addictive music station Radio Nova and Colm was dusting down his headphones, he says.

"It was going to take something special for me to return to radio and Nova is that something special", says Colm. "I’m a big fan of the station. The music they play is a cut above anything on any other radio station. John Clarke has given me the codes to his jukebox and the keys to his '65 Chevy so enjoy the ride Dublin”.

Kevin Branigan, Radio Nova’s CEO is delighted that Colm accepted his offer “I’ve long been an admirer of Colm’s presenting style, sense of humour – and, in particular, his audience numbers over the years! We’re delighted that Colm’s coming in to us and we’re looking forward to his return to the Dublin airwaves on Nova!”.

Colm has promised to keep up the great music that’s standard fare for Nova and was spotted earlier today loading up the Jukebox with The Rolling Stones, Thin Lizzy, David Bowie and The Beatles to name but a few. Colm can be heard on Radio Nova 100.3 from 10am-2pm every Sunday until 1st January, with ‘The Biggest Jukebox’, four hours of great rock and roll classics.

Radio NOVA broadcasts to Dublin, Kildare, Meath & Wicklow on 100.3FM and is available nationally via the Irish Radio Player and the NOVA Smartphone app.



I was saying for a while that Colm Hayes would be a good fit for Radio Nova and look what happens! Seriously though, look at all the presenters involved with Nova who came from the superpirates of the '80s: Colm Hayes, John Clarke, Mike Maloney, Greg Gaughran, Pat Courtenay and filler presenter Ernie Gallagher.

Max Headroom

Declan A Walsh wrote: »

LEGENDARY BROADCASTER COLM HAYES RETURNS TO RADIO

It’s been a while (well not that long)! Colm Hayes finished on RTÉ 2FM at the end of July and since then the Dublin broadcaster has been missing on radio. He's has been working on numerous projects and has just completed his first novel, a crime fiction thriller.

Now, Colm is set to return to radio, where he will guest present ‘John Clarke’s Biggest Jukebox’ on Radio NOVA for the next 3 Sundays.

One phone call from Dublin’s seriously addictive music station Radio Nova and Colm was dusting down his headphones, he says.

"It was going to take something special for me to return to radio and Nova is that something special", says Colm. "I’m a big fan of the station. The music they play is a cut above anything on any other radio station. John Clarke has given me the codes to his jukebox and the keys to his '65 Chevy so enjoy the ride Dublin”.

Kevin Branigan, Radio Nova’s CEO is delighted that Colm accepted his offer “I’ve long been an admirer of Colm’s presenting style, sense of humour – and, in particular, his audience numbers over the years! We’re delighted that Colm’s coming in to us and we’re looking forward to his return to the Dublin airwaves on Nova!”.

Colm has promised to keep up the great music that’s standard fare for Nova and was spotted earlier today loading up the Jukebox with The Rolling Stones, Thin Lizzy, David Bowie and The Beatles to name but a few. Colm can be heard on Radio Nova 100.3 from 10am-2pm every Sunday until 1st January, with ‘The Biggest Jukebox’, four hours of great rock and roll classics.

Radio NOVA broadcasts to Dublin, Kildare, Meath & Wicklow on 100.3FM and is available nationally via the Irish Radio Player and the NOVA Smartphone app.



I was saying for a while that Colm Hayes would be a good fit for Radio Nova and look what happens! Seriously though, look at all the presenters involved with Nova who came from the superpirates of the '80s: Colm Hayes, John Clarke, Mike Maloney, Greg Gaughran, Pat Courtenay and filler presenter Ernie Gallagher.

Should fit right in...................:rolleyes:

Ciaran_B

Surely the purpose of John Clarkes show is that it doesn't play the usual Nova playlist? If Colm just puts the Beatles and Lizzy on rotation it will be just more of the same.

FanadMan

Ciaran_B wrote: »

Surely the purpose of John Clarkes show is that it doesn't play the usual Nova playlist? If Colm just puts the Beatles and Lizzy on rotation it will be just more of the same.

Thankfully it's only for 3 weeks. John Clarkes show is one of the few pleasures.

Max Headroom

I only tune in to GG in the mornings now...so Greg , if youre reading this , you dont need to mention that Frank Beard is the only member of ZZ Top not to have a beard EVERY time you play a the song....I think everyone knows it at this stage....;);)

prunudo

Slightly different mix of songs on the jukebox with Colm Hayes so far this morning but still very safe.

endofrainbow

jvan wrote: »

Slightly different mix of songs on the jukebox with Colm Hayes so far this morning but still very safe.

and the links are way too long - lots of waffling

Oliver Beetroot

Max Headroom wrote: »

I only tune in to GG in the mornings now...so Greg , if youre reading this , you dont need to mention that Frank Beard is the only member of ZZ Top not to have a beard EVERY time you play a the song....I think everyone knows it at this stage....;);)

I love that he does this, I always get a laugh out of it, even the hundredth time.

Max Headroom

Oliver Beetroot wrote: »

I love that he does this, I always get a laugh out of it, even the hundredth time.

Maybe he doesnt realise he's doing it.....oldtimers..........:D

ORRRR....maybe its in his script....;)

Oliver Beetroot

Max Headroom wrote: »

Maybe he doesnt realise he's doing it.....oldtimers..........:D

ORRRR....maybe its in his script....;)

Either way, I don't mind.

If it is worth saying once, it's worth saying a thousand times.

Max Headroom

Oliver Beetroot wrote: »

Either way, I don't mind.

If it is worth saying once, it's worth saying a thousand times.

Do you know that the drummer from Zee Zee Top ,Frank Beard is the only member of the group NOT to have a beard.X 1000....fact....:p

Oliver Beetroot

Max Headroom wrote: »

Do you know that the drummer from Zee Zee Top ,Frank Beard is the only member of the group NOT to have a beard.X 1000....fact....:p

I do now.

Avatar MIA

Just to be pedantic...

Do you know that the drummer from ZZ Top, Frank Beard, is the only member of the group NOT to have a beard occasionally. X 1000...fact

Max Headroom

Oliver Beetroot wrote: »

I do now.

..and in case you need a visual reminder....Frank is the one without the beard on the left.....:P

Oliver Beetroot

Max Headroom wrote: »

..and in case you need a visual reminder....Frank is the one without the beard on the left.....:P

I see he has a moustache and a mullett, has he ever had a beard and is Frank Beard his birth name?

Max Headroom

Oliver Beetroot wrote: »

I see he has a moustache and a mullett, has he ever had a beard and is Frank Beard his birth name?

Frank Lee Beard...Like true musicians their appearence changes with the times or styles....he had a beardish growth when i saw him in The Marquee in cork, he looked like grumpy old proggy Rick Wakeman...the mullet was gone though...thankfully...:D

Declan A Walsh

Declan A Walsh wrote: »

I noticed that Lisa Gernon is on again this evening. This must be her third week.

Has Jack Hyland been moved out of that slot again....or: Has he been let go, just like the previous occupant of that slot - Sinead Ni Mhordha?

If Jack has been let go and replaced by someone new to the station (Lisa), I don't understand what is going on.

Perhaps someone could enlighten me on all of this.

I posted the above back in the middle of October and lo and behold I heard Jack Hyland tonight standing in for Lisa Gernon! I was sure he was gone from Nova. I wonder does Moss Breathnach (his real name) do stuff behind the scenes then - that's the name he uses for his off-mike stuff. Anyway, it's great to hear Jack Hyland on the air again whatever is happening.

JimmyTClarke

Is anyone else sick of this 'Secret Santa' character yet? His constant innuendo laden references to his 'sack' weren't funny last year and they aren't funny this year. Also, why does 'Santa' talk like a low level drug dealer who you might encounter at a deserted Luas stop?

guile4582

JimmyTClarke wrote: »

Is anyone else sick of this 'Secret Santa' character yet? His constant innuendo laden references to his 'sack' weren't funny last year and they aren't funny this year. Also, why does 'Santa' talk like a low level drug dealer who you might encounter at a deserted Luas stop?

is it yer man from Fair City who was the stand in during the summer? Eric Lalor?

yeah it's pretty tiring. that's Nova's MO it seems

Ciaran_B

"And which one of Santas prizes would you most like?"

God - just shut up and play some music.

guile4582

Ciaran_B wrote: »

"And which one of Santas prizes would you most like?"

God - just shut up and play some music.

got to say some prizes though!

Ciaran_B

Yeah - that's true. I'd love that trip to LA on the Dream Liner.

JimmyTClarke

guile4582 wrote: »

got to say some prizes though!

Yeah, I'll give them that. Although a Dublin radio station brokering a deal with Ethiopian Airlines is very random, I must say.

JimmyTClarke

guile4582 wrote: »

is it yer man from Fair City who was the stand in during the summer? Eric Lalor?

yeah it's pretty tiring. that's Nova's MO it seems

I'm not sure, to be honest, Guile. It could very well be. However, it does appear to be the same guy as last year's 'Secret Santa' and I don't think Lalor was involved with Nova at that point.

Ciaran_B

I'm already sick of Santa and his sack and his massive load. Such a terrible promo.

endofrainbow

JimmyTClarke wrote: »

Yeah, I'll give them that. Although a Dublin radio station brokering a deal with Ethiopian Airlines is very random, I must say.

not really. It's a new product and if anything, will generate interest in this new route to LAX from Dublin.

cdeb

Listening to Alice Cooper there at the moment - a shame more of the programming isn't like this.

Crazy Crazy Nights (KISS), followed by Long Live Rock (The Who) Tie Your Mother Down (Queen) and Love Me Two Times (The Doors)

More please!

JimmyTClarke

cdeb wrote: »

Listening to Alice Cooper there at the moment - a shame more of the programming isn't like this.

Crazy Crazy Nights (KISS), followed by Long Live Rock (The Who) Tie Your Mother Down (Queen) and Love Me Two Times (The Doors)

More please!

I do enjoy Saturday Nights with Alice Cooper. He plays good tunes and the show is ever so tongue in cheek and doesn't take itself too seriously. I agree that it's a far superior show in comparison to most of Nova's regular output. However, as it's a syndicated show broadcast internationally, they wouldn't be held to the same rigid music policy that Nova's own presenters must adhere to (with the exception of Pat James).

FanadMan

JimmyTClarke wrote: »

I do enjoy Saturday Nights with Alice Cooper. He plays good tunes and the show is ever so tongue in cheek and doesn't take itself too seriously. I agree that it's a far superior show in comparison to most of Nova's regular output. However, as it's a syndicated show broadcast internationally, they wouldn't be held to the same rigid music policy that Nova's own presenters must adhere to (with the exception of Pat James).

Not forgetting John Clarke of course

JimmyTClarke

FanadMan wrote: »

Not forgetting John Clarke of course

Oh yeah, Mr. Biggest Jukebox. I forgot about him.

Big Nasty

Funny the way they portray Conor as being the dope on the morning show when the truth be known he's a far more polished and knowledgeable presenter than MM.

Max Headroom

Big Nasty wrote: »

Funny the way they portray Conor as being the dope on the morning show when the truth be known he's a far more polished and knowledgeable presenter than MM.

Ah yes, but its the MM show..."its MY ball"...:P

FanadMan

Has the app been working for anyone? From Mon evening it was only looping a bit of Alanis Morissette You Learn for about 12 hours. Now it doesn't even do that. I've tried it on two phones - one newest update and one really old. However, it works fine on TuneIn.