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Vuelta Short Stage - Sunday (lots of early action)

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  • 04-09-2016 2:00pm
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    Inquitus
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    Could be an epic stage.


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    #2
    Inquitus
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    Quintana and Contador 1 min up the road on Froome Group early in the stage, Froome only has 2 teammates, rest of Sky a minute further back. Orica and BMC will have to help chase you'd think as their GC hopes and in the Froome group.


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    velo.2010
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    The one day I thought I'd sit down and watch most of a stage and I miss the damn start!

    I think it'll be crucial the second group keep far enough ahead that Froome's teammates don't get across using the team cars for instance. I think that's why Movistar keep surging in the second group with Valverde.

    All or nothing effort from Contador and Quintana now. Is this the way Sky can be beaten?


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    Burial.
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    God I love Contador.


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    Inquitus
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    Looks like its all over for Froome, he's 2 mins behind Quintana and Contador, and most of his teammates are 3 minutes back, there's only Orica with any reason to ride in his group, and maybe Astana.


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    Solobally8
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    Fantastic to see Contador racing at the front bet Sky didn't have that in their plan for the day! It's been great yesterday and today to see stages from the start.


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    Inquitus
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    Sky and Orica are bolloxed after yesterday, hard to see a way back from here and the time just keeps going out.


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    Burial.
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    Froome chats to Astana and they start pushing. Ffs.


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    Inquitus
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    Astana to the rescue for Froome, for now anyways. He only has lopez and no chance of the rest making it back.


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    Burial.
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    Astana have ruined this stage from being special


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    Inquitus
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    Burial. wrote: »
    Astana have ruined this stage from being special

    Most teams not in the break have a reason to chase, we might not like it, but that's just the long and the short of it, protect your best riders GC position by riding and try and secure your WT points, that's the name of the game.

    People might not like it but the job of the other teams is not to just spite Sky at every opportunity.


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    funnights74
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    Gap is 2.35 now.


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    Inquitus
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    I think Froome only has himself to blame he should never have let Quintana get up the road, dozed off there. 3 minutes now, and unless a concerted chase emerges soon then this break is going to stick.


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    Solobally8
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    God I love the Vuelta! Always ten times better than the tour.


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    funnights74
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    No poels and Thomas for froome, it goes to show what immense engines they were in the tour. Not a chance in hell this would happen if they were here.


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    irishrover99
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    Contrador is the last of the old skool gc riders and you can see why he wants power meters gone in races. Long break aways are a thing of the past because of them


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    G1032
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    Good man Sean......

    "It's a climb that's certainly not for the fat boys".


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    MPFGLB
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    funnights74 wrote: »
    No poels and Thomas for froome, it goes to show what immense engines they were in the tour. Not a chance in hell this would happen if they were here.

    Not Poels & Thomas on a stage like today whne the attack on the downhill...more like Stananrd & Rowe are really missed


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    Inquitus
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    irishrover99 wrote: »
    Contrador is the last of the old skool gc riders and you can see why he wants power meters gone in races. Long break aways are a thing of the past because of them

    They are more a thing of the past due to radios and seven man teams tbh.


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    JK.BMC
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    Inquitus wrote: »
    Could be an epic stage.

    It is..... :)


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    at1withmyself
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    Ticker is showing chavas and froome with valverde in chase, is this the case?

    Also where is Yates?


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    Inquitus
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    at1withmyself wrote: »
    Ticker is showing chavas and froome with valverde in chase, is this the case?

    Also where is Yates?

    Quintana and Contador with teammates escaped at the start on the first climb and all of Sky bar 2 were dropped. Chaves and Yates in the Froome group, Froome on his own now, gap has been between 2-3 min all day. Astana and OBE done most of the chase work.


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    pelevin
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    Went back to see start of stage on ES player. All the work of Contador. What a fighter. Haven't noticed Froome ever at the head of the chase. Surely the other teams should play poker and force him to bury himself. What for instance had Sanchez at stake to be leading a fast descent earlier


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    Andalucia
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    Froome showing himself to be a classless rider with this performance, pays the $$$ to Astana and sucks wheel, Contador is a proper bike rider


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    Inquitus
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    pelevin wrote: »
    Went back to see start of stage on ES player. All the work of Contador. What a fighter. Haven't noticed Froome ever at the head of the chase. Surely the other teams should play poker and force him to bury himself. What for instance had Sanchez at stake to be leading a fast descent earlier

    Lopez did Trojan work for Froome early on, but without much help the gap only went one way, OBE and Astana want to protect their GC positions, if they left Froome to ride on his own the gap is only going to have ballooned out to ridiculous amounts, and everyone in that group would lose large amounts of GC ground. The main bunch are 25.5 minutes back lol.


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    Inquitus
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    Andalucia wrote: »
    Froome showing himself to be a classless rider with this performance, pays the $$$ to Astana and sucks wheel, Contador is a proper bike rider

    That's nonsense, what's he going to do? ride on the front on his own for 100km and pull back a 15 man break?

    Sensible riding, let the others protect their GC ambitions and follow wheels, save something for the final climb, and try and limit his losses.


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    Andalucia
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    Inquitus wrote: »
    That's nonsense, what's he going to do? ride on the front on his own for 100km and pull back a 15 man break?

    Sensible riding, let the others protect their GC ambitions and follow wheels, save something for the final climb, and try and limit his losses.

    he could take a turn, highly unlikely Astana would be protecting 9th on GC without $$$


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    retalivity
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    Astana riding for scarponi when chaves, yates and froome are all there is a joke


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    Inquitus
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    retalivity wrote: »
    Astana riding for scarponi when chaves, yates and froome are all there is a joke

    I'd say they'll all start to lean on Froome very heavily, very shortly.


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    smurphy29
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    Astana riding for Scarponi, who can't seem to handle the pace being set? Hmmm...


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    JK.BMC
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    Andalucia wrote: »
    he could take a turn, highly unlikely Astana would be protecting 9th on GC without $$$

    That's bullxxxx - Froome is part of a wider GC battle and no doubt he absolutely has to take a turn at some stage. He will eventually.

    What we are watching is an excellent demonstration of the difference between instinctive bike riders with racing instinct in their blood versus lab-built athletes who spend their professional lives plugged into machines telling them what to do. Modern life in microcosm- Live from La Vuelta. It's bloody brilliant Sir Dave....


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