Werewolf II - The revenge! Complete - Wolves win

Nopeare

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crowseye

crowseye wrote: »

Uriel accusing Jayop and then Uriel getting killed pretty much straight after seems way too obvious a setup from what I've seen so far unless its some weird double bluff. Also he did pick out Maximus from before with Tigger so I still feel like he's a villager.

I am going to stick with my gut here I still think Jayop is a villager, sullivo I'm not sure about but in a race between the two I'm picking sullivo

andy125

just going back over the uriel posts

I know he had high suspicions of jayop on last post but he had more in debt suspicions of charolais0153 as seen here and here

charolais0153 has 12 posts so far, if the task was completed it wouldn't be hard to find from 12 posts

but then again his task could be have no more than xx number of posts by day 3?

I throw him into the mix as i am still unsure of both jayop and sully

andy125

andy125 wrote: »

just going back over the uriel posts

I know he had high suspicions of jayop on last post but he had more in debt suspicions of charolais0153 as seen here and here

charolais0153 has 12 posts so far, if the task was completed it wouldn't be hard to find from 12 posts

but then again his task could be have no more than xx number of posts by day 3?

I throw him into the mix as i am still unsure of both jayop and sully

That's a good point actually.

andy125

Deleted User wrote: »

That's a good point actually.

I cant see anything obvious in his 12 posts to suggest a task completion though unless someone else sees something i don't

crosstownk

I've been flat out today but am catching up.

I've been trusting of Jayop to date based on a few things but mostly the fact that he spotted Max early and Tiggers peek confirmed Jayop's suspicion. But Barney got lynched based on Jayop's theory and another villager was lost. The whole Uriel thing with Jayop now has me confused.

I'll need to read today's posts in more detail.

Jayop

There's no doubt that Uriel's killing was designed to make me look guilty. That's no problem and I get the suspicion. At least tonight it's based on something and not people getting railroaded because I was annoying someone.

If i do die look at those who sowed the early seeds of doubt in me. Make sure everyone voting gives a reason and kill Daz or Sully asap.

Jayop

Jayop wrote: »

There's no doubt that Uriel's killing was designed to make me look guilty. That's no problem and I get the suspicion. At least tonight it's based on something and not people getting railroaded because I was annoying someone.

If i do die look at those who sowed the early seeds of doubt in me. Make sure everyone voting gives a reason and kill Daz or Sully asap.

It was Uriel and Tigger who had the early seeds of doubt.

Jayop

Jayop wrote: »

There's no doubt that Uriel's killing was designed to make me look guilty. That's no problem and I get the suspicion. At least tonight it's based on something and not people getting railroaded because I was annoying someone.

If i do die look at those who sowed the early seeds of doubt in me. Make sure everyone voting gives a reason and kill Daz or Sully asap.

Why were you so keen on Barney?

Jayop

Deleted User wrote: »

It was Uriel and Tigger who had the early seeds of doubt.

Tigger admitted last night before his meltdown that he manufactured that for some bonkers reason. Uriel did have suspicions, however I'm referring to these two posts,

Deleted User wrote: »

Let's race Sullivlo against Jayop then?

^ One minute before Uriel was killed...

sullivlo wrote: »

Uriel. calls suspicion on jayop.

Jayop away from computer all day until suspicions are raised.

Jayop logs in.

Uriel. shot.

Jayop assassin?

Vote jayop

^^ And 10 minuted after he was killed.

Deleted User wrote: »

Why were you so keen on Barney?

If you don't know the reasons by now then you've not paid any attention. I've listed them in huge multiquote format giving all the reasons. I guess wolves don't need to pay so much attention to things like that.

Jayop

Jayop wrote: »

Tigger admitted last night before his meltdown that he manufactured that for some bonkers reason. Uriel did have suspicions, however I'm referring to these two posts,



^ One minute before Uriel was killed...



^^ And 10 minuted after he was killed.



If you don't know the reasons by now then you've not paid any attention. I've listed them in huge multiquote format giving all the reasons. I guess wolves don't need to pay so much attention to things like that.

So are you definitively calling me a wolf?

Jayop

1 Alpha)
2 wolves
1 Ga
1 vilgilante
7 villagers

Unknown
Andy
Charolias
Crosstown
Crowseye
Jayop
Mick
Molly
Sullivo
The dazz
Tritium
Y0ssar1an

Alpha
Nopeare

As far as it stands, that's it isn't it. Andy was 100% not a wolf this morning but could have been the assassin and so could be a wolf now. Very unlikely but possible. We also know Andy wasn't the GA.

Now that makes it 3 vs 9 so if we make a mistake this lynch then by tomorrow morning we'll be 3 vs 7 and starting to get worried. At some point we need to get rid of Nopeare and I reckon we should do it tonight.

Purely on adds it makes more sense.
- If we don't kill Nopeare tonight then we have only a 1/4 chance of hitting a wolf.
- If we do kill Nopeare then tomorrow night presuming the wolves kill in the morning then tomorrow will be 1/3.5 so purely statistically a better chance of killing.

I've played games before where an outed wolf is allowed to survive and is put off and off, but it's a stupid tactic because at some point they need to be removed.




Balls, typed all that and then remembered the Vig has a bullet now so can kill Nopeare.

Jayop

Deleted User wrote: »

So are you definitively calling me a wolf?

I'm saying that both you and Sully are behaving the most suspiciously out of everyone.

No-one but a seer or a brother wolf can definitively call someone a wolf

Mollyb60

So lynch as normal with the vigilante taking out Nopeare tonight then. GA would want to have a pretty good idea who the vigilante was so they can protect them then.

Jayop

Mollyb60 wrote: »

So lynch as normal with the vigilante taking out Nopeare tonight then. GA would want to have a pretty good idea who the vigilante was so they can protect them then.

Yep, and if Andy doesn't get killed in the morning considering its a free kill for them with no chance of a GA protect then he needs to be worried about.

Mollyb60

At the moment the lynch is 4/4 Sullivo/Jayop with Andy, Charlaois and Crowseye left to vote.
And Nopeare technically too.

Jayop

I reckon 2/3 wolves have voted. Nopeare will wait to see how things are going, if the vote is needed it'll be on me 1 minute before the deadline, if not then he'll use a throwaway vote.

andy125

Jayop wrote: »

Yep, and if Andy doesn't get killed in the morning considering its a free kill for them with no chance of a GA protect then he needs to be worried about.

Yes this is true but I don't think they would risk the free kill so I won't be around too long by the looks of it anyway

Jayop

andy125 wrote: »

Yes this is true but I don't think they would risk the free kill so I won't be around too long by the looks of it anyway

Of course they could leave you alive and create suspicion around you but the temptation to take out someone 100% guaranteed hit at this stage is good.

of course now they know you're not the GA and if you're not a wolf then they will have a great shot at hitting the GA by not going for you. It'll be a 1/7 shot now.

y0ssar1an22

this is tough. no clue who anyone is except for the alpha. and the odds are 75% of us lynching a villager tonight.

y0ssar1an22

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

this is tough. no clue who anyone is except for the alpha. and the odds are 75% of us lynching a villager tonight.

correction 81.2% of lynching a villager

Nopeare

Nopeare wrote: »

Jayops point one about barney is the one that stood out to me. I think yesterday's kill was hunting a role, but that QB could of been onto something. Point 2 I believe could of been unlucky and on point 3 since I'm on the list of low posts could be used against me so not basing it off this as could be busy in RL

I remember reading that QB suspected jayop as well just before the munch but to me munching QB soon after that post seems like a wolf trick to cast a shadow. So I'm not 100% on jayop either way yet but think he gets the benefit of the doubt for now.

Uriel I believe was mentioned in his 'ghost' post but that was after the kill post so don't think that motivated the kill as it was decided by then.

I wrote this up just after the quiet period.

So for now I vote barney[\b]

Interesting post here...

Alpha backs up Jayos theory for Barney the villager and says QB munch was a wolf trick to steer us onto Jayo so he is trying to clear Jayo

WerewolfGM

Deleted User wrote: »

VOTE JAYOP

Hasn't posted all day. The ME seems weak evidence. Plus it's too similar to the last task that we were aware of.

Sorry, just seeing this now. Vote within a spoiler does not count. Can people please not do this.

WerewolfGM

WerewolfGM wrote: »

Sorry, just seeing this now. Vote within a spoiler does not count. Can people please not do this.

I misquoted. I corrected it in the next message.

crowseye

crowseye wrote: »

I am going to stick with my gut here I still think Jayop is a villager, sullivo I'm not sure about but in a race between the two I'm picking sullivo

Voted sullivo earlier Molly

andy125

Deleted User wrote: »

Interesting post here...

Alpha backs up Jayos theory for Barney the villager and says QB munch was a wolf trick to steer us onto Jayo so he is trying to clear Jayo

Was on the fence who to vote for but that kinda tips is towards jay for me

For now unless something drastic happens i vote Jayop

Mollyb60

crowseye wrote: »

crowseye wrote: »

I am going to stick with my gut here I still think Jayop is a villager, sullivo I'm not sure about but in a race between the two I'm picking sullivo

Voted sullivo earlier Molly

Sorry I'm clearly not good at tallying votes. Lol. So that's 5 for Sullivo, 4 for Jay.

Mollyb60

And we're back even then with Andy's vote. 5 a piece. Charlaois is last to vote unless Nopeare wants a lookin?

y0ssar1an22

andy125 wrote: »

Was on the fence who to vote for but that kinda tips is towards jay for me

For now unless something drastic happens i vote Jayop

in fairness, he would have backed anyones post that steered us towards a villager. maybe he picked jayops post because he foresaw this eventual fallout coming jayops way, and jayop being considered strong player.

was reading back though alphas posts and from what i can see he has played a pretty solid game until tigger peeked him.

Jayop

Andy Andy Andy.

Why oh why would I point out Max's post on Turn1 if I was a wolf.

I am also growing increasing confident I pointed out Sully's evil post in the same few minutes.


Ah well, my fight was faught yesterday and my reasons for being innocent are the same however today I have the extra problem of being stitched up with as much delicacy as an episode of Fair City.