Slovakia v England - Big Sam's England Debut

SlickRic

Shít enough game so far.

Kane should've already scored...

Hank Scorpio

England look really poor, not a great game

Jayop

First real bit of quality came in the last. Minute there with the whipped ball in from Rooney.

Not sure what it is with England. They've plated like this for so long under so many different managers. They are always worse than the sum of their parts. It's strange really because you see in the Pl these are good players.

Francie Barrett

England dominating possession, but doing nothing with it. It really does look like there is no game plan here whatsoever. Also, they have a real weak point in the two full back positions that the Slovakians need to be doing more to try and attack.

NukaCola

Francie Barrett wrote: »

England dominating possession, but doing nothing with it. It really does look like there is no game plan here whatsoever.

Sounds strangely familiar for some reason......

Jayop

Francie Barrett wrote: »

England dominating possession, but doing nothing with it. It really does look like there is no game plan here whatsoever. Also, they have a real weak point in the two full back positions that the Slovakians need to be doing more to try and attack.

Rose is an awful footballer going forward and defending. Walker wouldn't be a weak spot for me, he's a decent player.

rob316

Jayop wrote: »

Rose is an awful footballer going forward and defending. Walker wouldn't be a weak spot for me, he's a decent player.

Decent yes but the better player is on the bench.

Its still the same tired selection from the last manager, nothing new. I like Dier but partnering him with Henderson in a two man midfield is dreadful. Rooney hasn't had a good game in about a year and Lallana is been played out of position..

Agent Coulson

What kind of face will Sturridge give if Vardy get's on before him I wonder.

SlickRic

Skrtel is still mental I see.

blueser

How is Skrtel still on the pitch? He's already on a yellow card and he's done at least two further fouls since then. He should be off.

Hank Scorpio

blueser wrote: »

How is Skrtel still on the pitch? He's already on a yellow card and he's done at least two further fouls since then. He should be off.

Gone now for a stamp on Kane

Agent Coulson

It's taken years but a ref at last got Skrtel

Francie Barrett

Skrtel you fcukin' nutcase

theteal

blueser wrote: »

How is Skrtel still on the pitch? He's already on a yellow card and he's done at least two further fouls since then. He should be off.

He's just not very bright

blueser

About bloody time. He's a horrible player. That stamp was worth a red card on its own.

ShaneU

Nasty stamp, nasty player.

SlickRic

Skrtel will never, ever change.

PhlegmyMoses

rob316 wrote: »

Decent yes but the better player is on the bench.

Its still the same tired selection from the last manager, nothing new. I like Dier but partnering him with Henderson in a two man midfield is dreadful. Rooney hasn't had a good game in about a year and Lallana is been played out of position..

If that was in the United thread: World War III

rob316

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

If that was in the United thread: World War III

Even taking off my lfc tinted specs anyone can see how much he has declined. He still has that odd bit of quality but playing such an influential position as no 10 it's hugely detrimental to the creativity of the team.

DJIMI TRARORE

Thank God POOL got rid of him,with the new rules he"d give away at least 10 penos every year,and still not learn. PS: England are still sh1te

blueser

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

Thank God POOL got rid of him,with the new rules he"d give away at least 10 penos every year,and still not learn. PS: England are still sh1te

If the authorities seriously clamp down on holding/shirt pulling/grabbing in the penalty area, and stick to it, his career will go down the tubes PDQ. He'll be a liability, and no club will want him.

Agent Coulson

Walcott before Vardy or Sturridge when you are playing against 10 men.

ctrl-alt-delete

This is just as bad as their Euro peformances, maybe even worse.

Gringo180

For a professional footballer how bad is Theo Walcotts first touch and technique in general.

dfx-

this is standard Allardyce club stuff really, third last on MOTD style, the kind of game that is forgotten win lose or draw.

probably hundreds of these games at Bolton, West Ham etc.

Francie Barrett

Rooney still on the pitch :pac:

JPA

Cross, cross, cross.
Awful stuff.

Flint Fredstone

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Rooney still on the pitch :pac:

The undroppable force.

blueser

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

This is just as bad as their Euro peformances, maybe even worse.

Worse, considerably so;

https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/772488569944436736

Gringo180

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Rooney still on the pitch :pac:

He has been one of there better players.

Francie Barrett

Gringo180 wrote: »

He has been one of there better players.

A headless chicken of a performance.

Minderbinder

Gringo180 wrote: »

He has been one of there better players.

Doesn't matter. He hasn't scored a hat-trick therefore it's laughable he is still on the pitch.

Hank Scorpio

Wasn't offside was it? The defender kicked the ball

DaveSuarez

Shaw, Barkley and Rashford not even in the squad is terrible.

England should be thinking long term and building the team around those guys with Ali, Sterling, Kane and Stones.

The Talking Bread

Francie Barrett wrote: »

A headless chicken of a performance.

ah, Francie. Hardly so.

Mr.Nice Guy

Unbelievable.

The Talking Bread

DaveSuarez wrote: »

Shaw, Barkley and Rashford not even in the squad is terrible.

England should be thinking long term and building the team around those guys with Ali, Sterling, Kane and Stones.

well Shaw went home with a knock, and Barkley isnt just going to turn it on after being in very average form. Cant include everyone

Manutd_4life

Scraped it

Utopia Parkway

Last kick of the game probably.

Francie Barrett

lol sucker punch.

Diabhal Beag

Give Allardyce the 4 year contract extension pronto

Nice to see Adam score, put in some shift over the 90 mins.

Agent Coulson

Everything is ok now England favorites to win the World Cup.

DenMan

Lallana has nicked it for England. 0-1

ricero

Big sam's celebration is the sign of a man under immense pressure already

blueser

Utterly abject performance by the team tonight. They looked totally clueless out there. And the late winner can't hide that fact. Gruesome fayre.

ThunbergsAreGo

Slovakia had 0 shots and 36% possession, how did England not deserve it?

Didnt actually watch it (just had it on the PC while watching Narcos)

Unearthly

ricero wrote: »

Big sam's celebration is the sign of a man under immense pressure already

It's his first game and winning away at their closest rivals in group.

Fully understandable joy in my opinion

Minderbinder

sugarman wrote: »

They do not deserve that.

Why?


Happy for Sam but he needs to do some serious thinking about some of those players and the system. There was basically no change from Roy. If Rooney plays he has to play up top and I don't think any of the other strikers have shown enough to say they're above him in the pecking order. The midfield if full of players who keep things ticking over but don't really influence things. Hopefully over time Sam will revert to a more direct style with a high tempo.

Berserker

Delighted with the win but we made hard work of that. Skrtel getting sent off with 30 mins to go, should have resulted in us winning the game with plenty to spare but we lacked the cutting edge up front. Kane's confidence is shot by the looks of things. Think we'll top the group but Sam has an awful lot of work to do.

ricero

Unearthly wrote: »

ricero wrote: »

Big sam's celebration is the sign of a man under immense pressure already

It's his first game and winning away at their closest rivals in group.

Fully understandable joy in my opinion

Looked to me more of a man relieved he wont be getting a slating by the papers in the morning.

Never seen sam that worked up before in a league game