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Homelessness on the rise

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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,287 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Vizzy wrote: »
    What you fail to state about these people who are NOT turning down houses(according to you) is that the applicants have told the Local Authority which areas that they want housing, they have an option of putting down 3 areas in order of preference.
    Its a bit of a cop out then to refuse a house for some spurious reason, don't you think ?

    YOU don't know the reasons of each refusal.

    They could be completely acceptable reasons, in the main.

    A family can state a preference for an area, but the house may be too small and in a location with a lot of crime/junkies etc, that isn't a place to bring up kids.

    There could be thousands of reasons why a house or flat is turned down.

    But, without access to every single reason why people have turned down offers, nobody is in a legitimate position to make any kind of coherent judgement.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,287 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    So, Erica Fleming, Margaret Cash, Claire Elliott, Keeley Jones and their multitide of children really don't exist?


    Oh please. A few people out of thousands.

    Your view is simple minded, based on your own bitter impressions of caricatures you possess in your head.

    Real life is lot more complex.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    How many is so many?

    There are absolute chances & lazy layabouts on the housing list. I can't deny that but they are in the minority. The examples given out on homeless threads are usually the same scrounges time and again. Not different ones but the same half a dozen names going on 3 years now.

    According to this 3,000 offers were turned down. It makes annoying reading! https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/3000-social-housing-offers-turned-down-in-past-two-years-450651.html


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Oh please. A few people out of thousands.

    Your view is simple minded, based on your own bitter impressions of caricatures you possess in your head.

    Real life is lot more complex.

    It sure is. Most of us buy in an area we can afford. Not one that's near mammy (or her grave), the school, the kids daddy, with a sea view, without a sea view, without steps to the front door, without a view, etc.

    In other words, we take responsibility for ourselves and our kids. Not expect the State to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Oh please. A few people out of thousands.

    Your view is simple minded, based on your own bitter impressions of caricatures you possess in your head.

    Real life is lot more complex.

    Oh please yourself.

    These are only a few out of thousands alright, but they seem to be the poster girls for all the homeless.

    As you say, life is a lot more complex.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,193 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Vizzy wrote: »
    Oh please yourself.

    These are only a few out of thousands alright, but they seem to be the poster girls for all the homeless.

    As you say, life is a lot more complex.

    Its a huge industry that wont be going away any time soon and they use people like Ms Flemming to keep it in the spotlight.

    Looking at the accounts of Peter Mcverry Trust gives an idea of the figures.

    https://www.pmvtrust.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Approved-and-Signed-PMVT-Audited-Accounts-for-2017-Excluding-income-and-expenditure.pdf

    Total income of 17 million which over 14.5m came from the state and 15 million paid on wages.

    Im sure the money dished out to these charities could be used a lot better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    john4321 wrote:
    Im sure the money dished out to these charities could be used a lot better.


    True the government could actually do what they are elected to do instead of outsourcing responsibility.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    True the government could actually do what they are elected to do instead of outsourcing responsibility.

    They tried to do that but apparently over 3,000 people last year didn't seem to appreciate the effort


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Vizzy wrote:
    They tried to do that but apparently over 3,000 people last year didn't seem to appreciate the effort


    3,000 last year? can you tell me where this figure came from?Also were the dwellings subsequently destroyed or was another family housed in their stead?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Thread closed for review.


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