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Electric Picnic 2017 **Discussion Only // No Ticket Sales**

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    #8822
    Seathrun66
    Registered Users Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Did anyone hear about the trees collapsing onto two tents on Saturday night in the Hendrix campsite, got a text from a mate the Monday after saying that happened, luckily there was no one in both tents at the time.

    How long before you're accused of incorrect reporting BD?


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    #8823
    MJohnston
    Registered Users Posts: 10,655 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Oh and another security measure they should do is actually checking that people with a campervan pass have festival tickets when they drive onto the site. A thief who has to fork out €300+ to actually get in and steal things might be discouraged more than the one who currently only has to pay €93.


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    #8824
    Alkers
    Registered Users Posts: 6,833 ✭✭✭Alkers


    Seathrun66 wrote: »
    The tents themselves are of minimal value. The campervans are not. Damage to the latter would make for a very costly (and unenjoyable) experience.

    I agree but the additional wristband doesn't solve this either.


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    #8825
    Alkers
    Registered Users Posts: 6,833 ✭✭✭Alkers


    MJohnston wrote: »
    The campervan site could probably do with extra security presence in the actual site too, not just at the entrance (similar to how there are permanent security presences throughout the regular campsites).

    I agree wholeheartedly, I'd think this would be much more effective than having restricted access via wristbands, which I don't think would solve the problem.

    As far as I'm aware glastonbury and the likes all have the same arrangement as EP currently?


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    #8826
    Seathrun66
    Registered Users Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Simona1986 wrote: »
    Seathrun66 wrote: »
    The tents themselves are of minimal value. The campervans are not. Damage to the latter would make for a very costly (and unenjoyable) experience.

    I agree but the additional wristband doesn't solve this either.
    Why not? Extra security and checks as we've suggested. Highly likely to discourage thieves.


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    #8827
    Former Former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    MJohnston wrote: »
    No, it really really doesn't. I'm sorry, but nothing you have listed there is worth €10, let alone €75. We're already paying the general ticket prices too remember, so we would definitely take up some space in the campsites that we're freeing up by using the campervans. And the campervan site always requires significantly less cleanup afterwards (comparable to the Eco campsite actually).

    They currently provide nothing for our campervan pass money, and it's entirely viable that they could start doing so.

    It's a luxury item. It's worth what someone will pay for it. Based on demand, you'd imagine they could charge a lot more and still get it.

    You're asking FR to take something that sells out almost immediately, year after year, then significantly improve the product at additional cost to them, with no increase in the purchase price. I don't think that is realistic or reasonable.

    So far, MJohnston, you've called me silly, pedantic and arguing for the sake of it. I don't think any of that is necessary to be honest.


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    #8828
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users Posts: 12,590 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Seathrun66 wrote: »
    How long before you're accused of incorrect reporting BD?

    Yeah your right it was Sunday morning the incident happened, just looked back on the text there.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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    #8829
    MJohnston
    Registered Users Posts: 10,655 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Simona1986 wrote: »
    I agree wholeheartedly, I'd think this would be much more effective than having restricted access via wristbands, which I don't think would solve the problem.

    As far as I'm aware glastonbury and the likes all have the same arrangement as EP currently?

    Body and Soul doesn't anyway iirc.


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    #8830
    MadYaker
    Registered Users Posts: 12,218 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Former Former wrote: »
    It's a luxury item. It's worth what someone will pay for it. Based on demand, you'd imagine they could charge a lot more and still get it.

    You're asking FR to take something that sells out almost immediately, year after year, then significantly improve the product at additional cost to them, with no increase in the purchase price. I don't think that is realistic or reasonable.

    So far, MJohnston, you've called me silly, pedantic and arguing for the sake of it. I don't think any of that is necessary to be honest.

    But they have steadily increased the price of campervan tickets over the last few years have they not? And they have provided zero extra services for this.

    I don't see why you have such a problem with it. Festival Republic make a huge profit off this festival every year, a basic wrist banding system would be simple enough to implement and would go a long way to solving this issue and it wouldn't eat into their (steadily increasing) profit margin much at all. I was amazed when I heard there was no wristband necessary for access to the campervan fields, it's standard practice at every other EP sized festival that allows campervans.
    Former Former wrote: »
    Meh, the campervan field is a lot less crowded than the other fields, there's a cost associated with that, and you don't have to haul your stuff across a load of fields, you just drive right in. Is that worth €75? I don't know.

    However, in your proposed model, €75 between six people is not a premium price at all, it's €12.50 a head for all the above, plus more facilities and more security. It's not viable.

    So you would need to charge more, and that's really my only point. This is all eminently sensible and possible but it has to be paid for.

    This is nonsense to be honest. How is the fact that the campervan field is less crowded than the tent fields costing EP more money? They pay €75 and all they get is a few sh!tty compost toilets and a place to empty their toilets from the campers, that's it and it's miles from the arena compared to all the other campsites. By your logic I should have to pay extra to pitch my tent up the top of Oscar Wilde or Hendrix just because they're right beside the arena entrances. Come off it. Also I think you'll find none of the campers actually have 6 people staying in them, the most is almost always 4.
    Simona1986 wrote: »
    I agree wholeheartedly, I'd think this would be much more effective than having restricted access via wristbands, which I don't think would solve the problem.

    As far as I'm aware glastonbury and the likes all have the same arrangement as EP currently?

    Nope, glasto has extra security and wristbands for people staying in campervans. Go to any other EU festival thats the same size as EP and it's they way they all do it because it makes sense.


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    #8831
    mimimcmc
    Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭mimimcmc


    MJohnston wrote: »
    Oh and another security measure they should do is actually checking that people with a campervan pass have festival tickets when they drive onto the site. A thief who has to fork out €300+ to actually get in and steal things might be discouraged more than the one who currently only has to pay €93.

    Does this not happen at EP? :eek: I'm shocked!

    At Indiependence everyone in the CAR has to show a ticket on the way into the parking lot


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    #8832
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users Posts: 12,590 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    A great interview with Tara McGuinness, who runs the Bandstand stage at the Body&Soul Village/Electric Picnic, she champions the unknown Irish acts giving them a chance for a spotlight on the stage. https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/finding-musical-serendipity-at-electric-picnic-s-smaller-stages-1.3202279

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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    #8833
    MJohnston
    Registered Users Posts: 10,655 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Former Former wrote: »
    It's a luxury item. It's worth what someone will pay for it. Based on demand, you'd imagine they could charge a lot more and still get it.

    But that makes no sense to what I'm talking about here, which is what people would like Festival Republic to do, and what is viable for them to do. What they will do is a completely different issue.
    You're asking FR to take something that sells out almost immediately, year after year, then significantly improve the product at additional cost to them, with no increase in the purchase price. I don't think that is realistic or reasonable.

    First of all, again you're arguing that just because FR are unlikely to do something, we shouldn't bother asking them.

    I'm not arguing that they're likely to do anything (in fact I'm pretty convinced FR couldn't give two hoots about anyone attending the festival), I'm just pointing out what people who are attending would like for their money, and what we would like to see improved.

    The 'value for money' issue, I'd agree that FR offering more would certainly eat into their substantial profits from campervan passes, but I'm not arguing for anything that would turn them into losses. Currently they basically offer nothing for €75, so there's plenty of profit there to be eaten into.
    So far, MJohnston, you've called me silly, pedantic and arguing for the sake of it. I don't think any of that is necessary to be honest.

    I don't think I've called you anything, I've said that certain things in your posts are, however.


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    #8834
    MJohnston
    Registered Users Posts: 10,655 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    mimimcmc wrote: »
    Does this not happen at EP? :eek: I'm shocked!

    At Indiependence everyone in the CAR has to show a ticket on the way into the parking lot

    No, they didn't even ask for 1 single ticket on the way in this year.

    So, very possible there were people in the campervan site who only had a campervan pass, and didn't have any festival tickets.

    And as I've said before, there were multiple occasions where I went from the campervan site into the Joplin campsite (which is then open to everywhere but the main arena) and did not have my festival wristband even looked at, let alone checked.

    Which means it was entirely possible that some people bought a campervan pass, and were able to access all of the general campsites, as well as all of the stages outside of the main arena, all without a festival ticket.


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    #8835
    Seathrun66
    Registered Users Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Seathrun66 wrote: »
    How long before you're accused of incorrect reporting BD?

    Yeah your right it was Sunday morning the incident happened, just looked back on the text there.
    Wasn't saying you're wrong, just that another poster here may soon question your reporting. And that does sound pretty scary. Not a good festival experience to have a tree land on you.


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    #8836
    mimimcmc
    Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭mimimcmc


    MJohnston wrote: »
    No, they didn't even ask for 1 single ticket on the way in this year.

    So, very possible there were people in the campervan site who only had a campervan pass, and didn't have any festival tickets.

    And as I've said before, there were multiple occasions where I went from the campervan site into the Joplin campsite (which is then open to everywhere but the main arena) and did not have my festival wristband even looked at, let alone checked.

    Which means it was entirely possible that some people bought a campervan pass, and were able to access all of the general campsites, as well as all of the stages outside of the main arena, all without a festival ticket.

    Over the whole weekend I only remember being asked to show my wristband once, that was going into the arena and when I went to show it to the girl I realised my jacket was covering it but kept walking and she didn't care... :rolleyes:
    I was camped in Chaplin btw which was just splendid (except for the guy screaming about a banana on sunday night/monday morning...

    Actually, special mention to the portaloo stewards in chaplin, toilets were kept immaculate all weekend!


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    #8837
    Stillill42
    Registered Users Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭Stillill42


    Ah. This is what happens when we let it linger. It's where EP threads go to die. Farewell, EP 2017. I loved your early stuff. To the future!


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    #8838
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users Posts: 12,590 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Did anyone get to see Jack L at the Hazelwood stage, looks like a nice gig.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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    #8839
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users Posts: 12,590 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    One of the better acts at Other Voices.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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    #8840
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users Posts: 12,590 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Aw man that looks wicked, despite the pouring rain, wish I went to see them now and thank you to Mike McCarthy for uploading as there is very few clear audio clips of ATCQ at EP.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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    #8841
    mgkelly
    Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭mgkelly


    As a rumoured EP 2018 headliner would say "don't pay the ferryman, don't even fix a price, until he gets you to the other side".
    [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I can only assume that this is a nasty, vicious, unsubstantiated rumour, designed to cause upset.....?![/font]
    [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]:wassat:[/font]


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    #8842
    mgkelly
    Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭mgkelly


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Aw man that looks wicked, despite the pouring rain, wish I went to see them now and thank you to Mike McCarthy for uploading as there is very few clear audio clips of ATCQ at EP.

    They really were quite good. Better than I expected. Still, I couldn't help thinking about the 'elasticated waistband' comment somewhere on here, very early on in the thread! 
    Someone had been talking about old rap/hip hop acts, and the profusion of elasticated waistbands!
    Boy, these lads had piled on the beef, too! Wondered if one of them was going to cowp on stage & what we'd all do?!
    Worth the listen, tho'. People doubted their ability to carry it off.


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    #8843
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users Posts: 12,590 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    A well made video highlighting the Haunt venue in Body&Soul Village.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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    #8844
    MJohnston
    Registered Users Posts: 10,655 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    mgkelly wrote: »
    They really were quite good. Better than I expected. Still, I couldn't help thinking about the 'elasticated waistband' comment somewhere on here, very early on in the thread!
    Someone had been talking about old rap/hip hop acts, and the profusion of elasticated waistbands!
    Boy, these lads had piled on the beef, too! Wondered if one of them was going to cowp on stage & what we'd all do?!
    Worth the listen, tho'. People doubted their ability to carry it off.

    You mean Jarobi I guess - that man's actually thinner than he used to be though!


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    #8845
    scruff monkey
    Registered Users Posts: 5,115 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    mgkelly wrote: »
    ...
    Someone had been talking about old rap/hip hop acts, and the profusion of elasticated waistbands!...

    Pretty sure that was in relation to De La Soul


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    #8846
    mgkelly
    Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭mgkelly


    ...yes, I think it was! 
    Would have loved to have seen them! Could have joined Mr Jukes on stage for their joint song - Leap of Faith!


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    #8847
    Seathrun66
    Registered Users Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    scruff monkey wrote: »
    mgkelly wrote: »
    ...
    Someone had been talking about old rap/hip hop acts, and the profusion of elasticated waistbands!...

    Pretty sure that was in relation to De La Soul
    And Wu Tang Clan. The day-glo stretchy sportswear not a great look in the late-August late-afternoon Laois sunshine. Unless you're Har Mar Superstar.


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    #8848
    scruff monkey
    Registered Users Posts: 5,115 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    Fcuk wu tan clan, They played 4/5 years ago and were utter ****e, buncha lads leppin, screaming and cursing to beat the band. Total ****e esp when compared to Atcq or more modern acts like young gods


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    #8849
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    I'm still singing that earworm from Michael Kiwanuka - Bah, bah, badadadadda, Bah, bah, badadadadda. Savage. The only song I seen on the way home after the Pretenders and it felt like it went on for hours.

    Bloody good song sir


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    #8850
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,619 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Synode wrote: »
    I'm still singing that earworm from Michael Kiwanuka - Bah, bah, badadadadda, Bah, bah, badadadadda. Savage. The only song I seen on the way home after the Pretenders and it felt like it went on for hours.

    Bloody good song sir

    Love and hate ;)

    He was excellent, pity he didn't have a bigger crowd.


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    #8851
    Graham1978
    Registered Users Posts: 211 ✭✭Graham1978


    I've being saying it for years, I think James would be a great booking . Perfect picnic band . Also Peter Hook and the light, great live .


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