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In need of some advice - AutoCAD/PS4/PC Gaming

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  • 08-09-2016 7:17pm
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    El Duda
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    Hi all.

    I am looking to purchase a new PC/Laptop so that I can run AutoCAD and work from home. I currently own and iMac but I want a windows PC as well.

    Recently my GF has mentioned getting me PS4 for my b'day/Xmas. I was thinking that might be a waste of money. People say that PS4's are really lacking in power and you're better off just building a gaming PC/rig. Is this right?

    Can anyone lend me some advice about the possibility of building a PC that can run AutoCAD safely and also outperform a PS4 in terms of gaming?

    My budget is around £600.


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    ancapailldorcha
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    I'd sooner have a gaming rig than a PS4. Different if you want a multimedia system for Netflix and the like but Smart TVs have likely occupied that niche.

    If you want gaming, the PC is a much better call IMO.

    Here's a VERY comprehensive list of reasons. I'll let the lads who actually know stuff about PCs take it from there.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    Lu Tze
    Registered Users Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Lu Tze


    what kind of cadwork are you doing? is it 2d work mainly?


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    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    El Duda wrote: »
    Hi all.

    I am looking to purchase a new PC/Laptop so that I can run AutoCAD and work from home. I currently own and iMac but I want a windows PC as well.

    Recently my GF has mentioned getting me PS4 for my b'day/Xmas. I was thinking that might be a waste of money. People say that PS4's are really lacking in power and you're better off just building a gaming PC/rig. Is this right?

    Can anyone lend me some advice about the possibility of building a PC that can run AutoCAD safely and also outperform a PS4 in terms of gaming?

    My budget is around £600.
    Can you convince your GF to spend the money on a GPU instead of a PS4?

    Unless she wants to use it herself as well.

    This build would do you well though:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£174.90 @ Amazon UK)
    Motherboard: Asus H110M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£47.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£25.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£101.00 @ Amazon UK)
    Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (£179.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
    Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£44.17 @ Amazon UK)
    Power Supply: XFX TS 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£38.69 @ Amazon UK)
    Total: £612.73
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-08 21:29 BST+0100


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    Metric Tensor
    Registered Users Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Metric Tensor


    What model of iMac is it? On anything recent you can use boot camp to run windows in a native mode (IE not a software emulation). It gives you a fully working PC with the specs of your iMac.

    Depending on what games you play it may even run them.


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    El Duda
    Registered Users Posts: 874 ✭✭✭El Duda


    Lu Tze wrote: »
    what kind of cadwork are you doing? is it 2d work mainly?

    Just 2D
    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    Can you convince your GF to spend the money on a GPU instead of a PS4?

    Unless she wants to use it herself as well.

    This build would do you well though:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£174.90 @ Amazon UK)
    Motherboard: Asus H110M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£47.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£25.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£101.00 @ Amazon UK)
    Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (£179.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
    Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£44.17 @ Amazon UK)
    Power Supply: XFX TS 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£38.69 @ Amazon UK)
    Total: £612.73
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-08 21:29 BST+0100

    Great reply! Thanks for that, I will look into it. That's exactly what I was after.
    Metric Tensor wrote: »
    What model of iMac is it? On anything recent you can use boot camp to run windows in a native mode (IE not a software emulation). It gives you a fully working PC with the specs of your iMac.

    Depending on what games you play it may even run them.

    I can't remember the exact model but it's about 5 years old now. I'd rather just purchase a separate PC tbh. Thanks for the advice though.


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    Metric Tensor
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    Boot camp would definitely work on one 5 years old but much like any 5 year old PC it'd be restricted for any modern stuff and particularly games for which it would never have been ideal anyway!

    Well worth getting a new one - I would never stand in the way of anyone who wants a new computer!!! ;)


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    Lu Tze
    Registered Users Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Lu Tze


    El Duda wrote: »
    Just 2D



    Great reply! Thanks for that, I will look into it. That's exactly what I was after.



    I can't remember the exact model but it's about 5 years old now. I'd rather just purchase a separate PC tbh. Thanks for the advice though.
    2d isn't too taxing, the spec provided above should be well able for it. Unless you are using huge files/xrefs like topo data, in which case I would up the ram to 16gb.


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    El Duda
    Registered Users Posts: 874 ✭✭✭El Duda


    Hi Guys,

    The time is almost here for me to buy my new PC. My budget has increased to around £800-£1000.

    I am considering two routes to go down;

    1, Alienware - Can anyone offer any advice/experiences with these machines? They look slick but a lot of them only have 8GB of ram.

    2, Build a tower as aforementioned in this thread. I'm likely to go to PC specialist or someone similar as I have no experience in building PC's. I don't have much time either.


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    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    El Duda wrote: »
    Hi Guys,

    The time is almost here for me to buy my new PC. My budget has increased to around £800-£1000.

    I am considering two routes to go down;

    1, Alienware - Can anyone offer any advice/experiences with these machines? They look slick but a lot of them only have 8GB of ram.

    2, Build a tower as aforementioned in this thread. I'm likely to go to PC specialist or someone similar as I have no experience in building PC's. I don't have much time either.
    Only buy Alienware if you absolutely must have a tiny, gimped machine, or a highly-priced laptop.

    PCSpecialist are alright, just understand that you're paying a premium to have them build it for you.
    You'll need to play around with their configurator a lot, too.
    One good thing about them is they sell genuine Windows 7 / 10 Professional license keys for cheaper than the Windows store (£122 vs £189.99).

    Example build (more for work than gaming):
    Case
    PCS DOMINATOR 6806B BLACK CASE
    Processor (CPU)
    Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-6700 (3.4GHz) 8MB Cache
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte G1.Sniper B7: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
    Memory (RAM)
    16GB HyperX FURY DDR4 2133MHz (2 x 8GB)
    Graphics Card
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP
    FREE HOLIDAY SEASON BUNDLE with select GTX 10 Series GPUs!
    1st Hard Disk
    120GB KINGSTON UV400 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (550MB/R, 350MB/W)
    2nd Hard Disk
    2TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
    1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
    NOT REQUIRED
    Power Supply
    CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES™ VS-450 POWER SUPPLY
    Power Cable
    1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
    Processor Cooling
    INTEL STANDARD CPU COOLER
    Thermal Paste
    STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
    Sound Card
    ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
    Wireless/Wired Networking
    10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
    USB Options
    MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
    Operating System
    Genuine Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence
    Operating System Language
    United Kingdom - English Language
    Office Software
    FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365
    Anti-Virus
    BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
    Browser
    Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
    Warranty
    3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
    Delivery
    2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
    Build Time
    Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days

    QTY
    1
    £835.83
    ex VAT
    £1,003.00
    inc VAT and Delivery


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