Guards recruitment September 2016

User16

misslemon wrote: »

I'm no help with IT things, but just stay calm. You didn't cut out midway through?

No, thank God. Couldn't even start it. Drove to my brothers gaff n did it there. Phew!!
Contacted the assessment company, they answered very promptly, and apologised over technical issues.
All done, so fingers crossed....

User16

Depp wrote: »

just completed the test, did anyone else from the last campaign find that the tests have been significantly dumbed down? found it remarkably easier for some reason

Never tried Guards before, but it's significantly easier than prison officers one, so far anyhoo

Jimmibar

Well that's done ..! Logical reasoning was fairly straightforward for the verbal I only got to answer about 32 did anyone else find the time a issue ?

Depp

Jimmibar wrote: »

Well that's done ..! Logical reasoning was fairly straightforward for the verbal I only got to answer about 32 did anyone else find the time a issue ?

got all the questions done with 2 minutes to spare personally, kinda worried now i see so many not finishing

MrBlack93

Depp wrote: »

got all the questions done with 2 minutes to spare personally, kinda worried now i see so many not finishing

Amazing! I hope that won't be a tricky performance to repeat at the assessment centre in order to verify your score

Depp

MrBlack93 wrote: »

Amazing! I hope that won't be a tricky performance to repeat at the assessment centre in order to verify your score

hopefully not, not too worried about these either way if its anything itll be the interview where i mess up, going to be my third go at it please god

MrBlack93

Depp wrote: »

hopefully not, not too worried about these either way if its anything itll be the interview where i mess up, going to be my third go at it please god

did you fail the interview in the 2 most recent campaigns? sorry to hear. Just curious if you ever sought feedback or what was your downfall?

Depp

MrBlack93 wrote: »

did you fail the interview in the 2 most recent campaigns? sorry to hear. Just curious if you ever sought feedback or what was your downfall?

changed my phone number and moved so didnt get any notification for the interview on the first campaign then the most recent one nerves really kicked in and just had a poor interview overall

GB FAN GALWAY 30

Hi all.. Just for those that were wondering I spoke to prep test trainer today and he said that negative marking has been abolished.. ðŸ‘

GB FAN GALWAY 30

MrBlack93 wrote: »

Amazing! I hope that won't be a tricky performance to repeat at the assessment centre in order to verify your score

Just in terms of verification would we need to answer a similar amount of questions in the assessment centre.?

MrBlack93

GB FAN GALWAY 30 wrote: »

Just in terms of verification would we need to answer a similar amount of questions in the assessment centre.?

I'd assume that you need to achieve a similar number of correct answers with how many you answered being irrelevant.

misslemon

Just in case you guys didn't see, there's an ex-Garda on Ask Me Anything tonight: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057660959

MrBlack93

There's very little discussion around this campaign compared to the previous ones.

misslemon

MrBlack93 wrote: »

There's very little discussion around this campaign compared to the previous ones.

I know, I thought that too. I wonder if it's because it's so soon after the last campaign, that most of us have failed at least once before and don't want to build ourselves up as much?

Last campaign the recruitment drive was all I thought about pretty much. I took it hard when I crashed out. This time I'm applying for other things, doing other things, being less single minded. Don't get me wrong I still want the job, I just don't want to get my hopes up again.

Plus less people applied. We had a tiny fraction of the 16,700 from the last campaign posting at the start of the year. So maybe there's just less of us?

misslemon

I wish there was more chat about the campaign/general garda stuff on this thread. I've only told two people I've applied this time because I don't want to hear all the whistleblower/pay arguments from people. They mean well, but I've weighed it all up and still think it's a good decision for me.

But because I don't talk about it with real life people, I'd really love to talk about it on here. So if anyone wants to talk about anything, anything at all - even discussing the fashionable masterpiece that is the AGS uniform - I'd be well up for that.

ryan1305

I have only told a couple of people that I applied as well because I can't be bothered to have the same arguments. But it is driving me mad not being able to talk about it!!!

Gnr_Iver

Feel free to post yer thoughts and questions folks and I'm sure people would be happy to help.

I'll try help ye out if I can as well

stiimpreza1984

Hi all...I reached stage two of the last campaign. However, I flew through the Verbal, Abstract, Report Writing at the supervised assessment but I didn't qualify on the Job Simulation as I was out by only five marks. I asked for a recheck but it did not come back in my favour. As previously mentioned the pass mark was 50%, 400 marks I got 395. Kick in the *** but sure these things happen. Applied again, now in this campaign and I thought the Verbal was challenging alright. 42Qs in 12 minutes come on that's 17.14 seconds per Q. I think I flew through the Inductive Logic Thinking (shapes) that didn't pose a problem for me.

I am hoping that negative marking was not used as it was not in the instructions. Only seen, "avoid guessing" but nothing about negative marking in the Verbal. Well it's out of our control now but next Friday can't come fast enough to put us all out of our misery. Best of luck to everyone and hopefully will get to see some people in stage two if we make it

GB FAN GALWAY 30

stiimpreza1984 wrote: »

Hi all...I reached stage two of the last campaign. However, I flew through the Verbal, Abstract, Report Writing at the supervised assessment but I didn't qualify on the Job Simulation as I was out by only five marks. I asked for a recheck but it did not come back in my favour. As previously mentioned the pass mark was 50%, 400 marks I got 395. Kick in the *** but sure these things happen. Applied again, now in this campaign and I thought the Verbal was challenging alright. 42Qs in 12 minutes come on that's 17.14 seconds per Q. I think I flew through the Inductive Logic Thinking (shapes) that didn't pose a problem for me.

I am hoping that negative marking was not used as it was not in the instructions. Only seen, "avoid guessing" but nothing about negative marking in the Verbal. Well it's out of our control now but next Friday can't come fast enough to put us all out of our misery. Best of luck to everyone and hopefully will get to see some people in stage two if we make it

Negative marking does not apply this time around..

GB FAN GALWAY 30

Glad to see everyone else thought that this campaign was really quiet. Like you I haven't told many I've applied mainly because if I'm not successful it saves explaining!! Some people seem to think joining the guards is about as difficult as heading to the shops!! If only they knew.... So what do we think. How many from 5000 will be brought forward?

stiimpreza1984

Great to hear negative marking is not been used so . It's hard to say isn't it. You always get people like that sure if only they knew.

stiimpreza1984

I'd reckon maybe out of the 5000 a few hundred will not have gone to the bother to fill out the form and sit the tests. I'd say approx 2000-2500 people won't pass stage one and what's leftover the PAS will separate into three groups, top, middle, lower. We'll have to just wait and see I suppose.

MrBlack93

Have seen people fail job sim 2 campaigns in a row. Dreading the assessment centre this time TBH. Was inconsolable last time ha

stiimpreza1984

MrBlack93 wrote: »

Have seen people fail job sim 2 campaigns in a row. Dreading the assessment centre this time TBH. Was inconsolable last time ha

Yeah gutted I was. I'd like to think now that I know where I made my mistakes. A friend of mine who is in the Guards even thought when I described some of the scenarios were quite tricky and that's coming from a Guard in the force for many many years.

stiimpreza1984

MrBlack93 wrote: »

Have seen people fail job sim 2 campaigns in a row. Dreading the assessment centre this time TBH. Was inconsolable last time ha

Yeah gutted I was. I'd like to think now that I know where I made my mistakes. A friend of mine who is in the Guards even thought when I described some of the scenarios were quite tricky and that's coming from a Guard in the force for many many years.

DooraGirl

Hi guys.. I'm happy to chat away here as well. I found out Tuesday that I'd passed my interview I've seen people mention on here about them taking in 800 out of 5000 next year.. just wondering where this years campaign (applied last November) would fit in to that? Intake in November this year and February next year out of that campaign and then it moves on to this one? Hope that makes sense

TallGlass

DooraGirl wrote: »

Hi guys.. I'm happy to chat away here as well. I found out Tuesday that I'd passed my interview I've seen people mention on here about them taking in 800 out of 5000 next year.. just wondering where this years campaign (applied last November) would fit in to that? Intake in November this year and February next year out of that campaign and then it moves on to this one? Hope that makes sense

Yeah pretty much and any surplus left over will merge into the OOM of the new campaign.

GazDublinC

Hi all ! This is my second time applying, applied back in 2013 and got through stage 1 but wasn't in a position to accept an offer if I even got that far so I didn't do stage 2. (Didn't want to potentially take someone else's spot and waste it).

I hope the fact that I applied before and didn't follow through doesn't reflect badly on me.

Also the results can't come out quick enough, the wait is killing me 😂 best of luck to everyone

misslemon

MrBlack93 wrote: »

Have seen people fail job sim 2 campaigns in a row. Dreading the assessment centre this time TBH. Was inconsolable last time ha

I know you're kind of joking, but I was inconsolable. I cried. For a while I felt bitter every time I saw a garda ve-hick-le.

Then I got over it. Just in time to get a job alert in my inbox from Publicjobs

But job simulation was hella hard. I knew walking out I'd messed up. I'm worried that it'll happen again. Job sim is so hard to prep for. Even with the courses, there's so many shades of grey that it's hard to pick the right option.

I also think job sim an unfair test, because I felt that if we progress we'll be taught what to do in these situations. That's what the time in Templemore, in the stations and on the job will teach us.

A personality test of some kind would be better, maybe, to see if you've the right temperament for the job.

misslemon

GazDublinC wrote: »

I hope the fact that I applied before and didn't follow through doesn't reflect badly on me.

Also the results can't come out quick enough, the wait is killing me 😂 best of luck to everyone

I doubt it'll be on the system, so you won't be asked about it. You'll be fine.

Waiting is the worst part of these campaigns. That's why threads like this help keep everyone sane

The Red Lad

When will we hear results ? It seems in my case the more i want something and think about it i never get it was 4 places missed out on the 600 cut off for the prison officers sickening i know,would love to get the guards and advance to stage 2 even though i think i done pretty well in the phase 1 testing im not getting my hopes up the waiting is an absolute killer !!

misslemon

The Red Lad wrote: »

When will we hear results ? It seems in my case the more i want something and think about it i never get it was 4 places missed out on the 600 cut off for the prison officers sickening i know,would love to get the guards and advance to stage 2 even though i think i done pretty well in the phase 1 testing im not getting my hopes up the waiting is an absolute killer !!

They're hoping to start stage 2 on November 7th, so in order to give us a week's notice to take time off work etc a lot of us reckon we'll hear next week.

Sorry to hear about the prison officer campaign. Missing out by four must have been really tough. Fingers crossed for you in this campaign anyway

stripmymind

misslemon wrote: »

They're hoping to start stage 2 on November 7th, so in order to give us a week's notice to take time off work etc a lot of us reckon we'll hear next week.

Sorry to hear about the prison officer campaign. Missing out by four must have been really tough. Fingers crossed for you in this campaign anyway

Jaysus that's some dose on you missing out by just four spots. I'm under the impression that being a prison gaurd is more preferred by a lot of people. They say it's financially more rewarding etc. For me though the gaurds is the goal, money shouldn't be a factor. Best of luck anyway lad. Anyone know roughly the salaries and benefits of being a gaurd.

MrBlack93

stripmymind wrote: »

Jaysus that's some dose on you missing out by just four spots. I'm under the impression that being a prison gaurd is more preferred by a lot of people. They say it's financially more rewarding etc. For me though the gaurds is the goal, money shouldn't be a factor. Best of luck anyway lad. Anyone know roughly the salaries and benefits of being a gaurd.

http://www.gra.cc/information.html

The Red Lad

Yeah annoying but what can you do doe...I've always preferred guard over prison officer mainly for the safety reasons along with your looking at living in Dublin for life as its very hard to get a transfer at least guards are flexible in that way also guards has always apealled to me from an early age the money isint a big worry for me I've no mortgage or kids to provide for ATM and still am very young at 22 and the money does and will improve and the guards will get there rent allowance back i done a prep course for both guards and prison officers and the guy over it stated the money will defintley go up,i can see where alot of older people applying and people with family's and mortgages are coming from doe as it would be very hard for them to survive and take a big hit financially. I've a mate of mine who's 27 no kids or mortgage who was driving trucks and taking in about €700 weekly and is now on starting garda wage and he doesn't mind he's doing what he wants to do and has great job security also which is a major factor for me trying to get in. With them taking on 3000 and only 5000 applying a few you could take off that already that wouldn't have even sat the test we all have a great chance probably one of the best times to try and get into the guards in a long time for everyone who applied so best of luck lads lets hope the majority of us on here hear good news and advance to the next stage ðŸ‘

MrBlack93

The Red Lad wrote: »

Yeah annoying but what can you do doe...I've always preferred guard over prison officer mainly for the safety reasons along with your looking at living in Dublin for life as its very hard to get a transfer at least guards are flexible in that way also guards has always apealled to me from an early age the money isint a big worry for me I've no mortgage or kids to provide for ATM and still am very young at 22 and the money does and will improve and the guards will get there rent allowance back i done a prep course for both guards and prison officers and the guy over it stated the money will defintley go up,i can see where alot of older people applying and people with family's and mortgages are coming from doe as it would be very hard for them to survive and take a big hit financially. I've a mate of mine who's 27 no kids or mortgage who was driving trucks and taking in about €700 weekly and is now on starting garda wage and he doesn't mind he's doing what he wants to do and has great job security also which is a major factor for me trying to get in. With them taking on 3000 and only 5000 applying a few you could take off that already that wouldn't have even sat the test we all have a great chance probably one of the best times to try and get into the guards in a long time for everyone who applied so best of luck lads lets hope the majority of us on here hear good news and advance to the next stage ðŸ‘

3000 people will not be taken from this recruitment campaign. It'll be more in the region of 600-800

misslemon

Which is a little less than a one in five chance. Better than previous campaigns!

MrBlack93

misslemon wrote: »

Which is a little less than a one in five chance. Better than previous campaigns!

And remember you now have the invaluable experience of being through this process before.

Also many fail as a result of not having the correct educational requirements etc.
So as long as you treat the assessment centre and Interview like your life depended on it then the odds are well in your favour.

stiimpreza1984

Well this time next week hopefully we will know where we stand guys. I wish it was next week already. Hate this waiting game . Anyone want advice on the report writing for the next stage just PM me as I have been there before so I am hoping to get to the next stage as I have a serious bone to pick with the job simulation test ha ha, being out by just five marks to get to my interview and qualified on all the rest! I cannot recommend Career Services enough though to be fair guys very informative and there online portal is fantastic to. Well worth the money.

User16

TallGlass wrote: »

Yeah pretty much and any surplus left over will merge into the OOM of the new campaign.

What is OOM?

misslemon

Order of Merit. They rank everyone who passes the aptitude tests in order of their results. I think you might get a new number after the interview stage too. Your OOM number is the order they call you through the stages.

So after we get our results and oom they may call, say, 1-250 to stage 2. After they've completed it they might call 250-500 for example.

User16

The Red Lad wrote: »

When will we hear results ? It seems in my case the more i want something and think about it i never get it was 4 places missed out on the 600 cut off for the prison officers sickening i know,would love to get the guards and advance to stage 2 even though i think i done pretty well in the phase 1 testing im not getting my hopes up the waiting is an absolute killer !!

Same here. I applied for Guards years back. Was called straight to RDS in Dublin for testing. Got a dear John letter. Applied this time round, Sept group, and its way harder. Easier than prison service, but same layout. Multiple tests etc
I'm 35 in 2 months so will be too old to ever apply again 😞

Had my heart set on prison service though, imagined myself in the job, so was very upset I barely scraped through and wasn't called.

Hopefully, I'll get into the Guards. I'd love the job.

misslemon

User16 wrote: »

Had my heart set on prison service though, imagined myself in the job, so was very upset I barely scraped through and wasn't called.

Hopefully, I'll get into the Guards. I'd love the job.

I didn't apply for the prison service, but I was gutted not to get through the last Garda campaign.

Like you said, when you've imagined yourself doing the job it's a punch in the gut not to get through. Especially when you feel you'd be good at the job.

GB FAN GALWAY 30

So are we expecting news today or is Monday an unusual day to hear from PAS?

MrBlack93

GB FAN GALWAY 30 wrote: »

So are we expecting news today or is Monday an unusual day to hear from PAS?

Doubt it. Bit too early, Wednesday maybe but probably Friday

misslemon

They also like Thursdays

The weekends are so restful during campaigns because you don't expect to hear anything! Weekdays, on the other hand, drag.

misslemon

I'm starting to get The Big Paranoia.

Asking myself stupid questions like "after you completed the tests, are you sure you pressed the button to submit it?"

Sweet love of jaysus this process will drive me to drink!

stiimpreza1984

Just four more days hopefully hate this waiting game.

stiimpreza1984

misslemon wrote: »

I'm starting to get The Big Paranoia.

Asking myself stupid questions like "after you completed the tests, are you sure you pressed the button to submit it?"

Sweet love of jaysus this process will drive me to drink!

Yeah second guessing yourself. Tell me about it. At least we'll know where we stand when we receive the results. It will be interesting now to see how fast this campaign will last under this accelerated campaign.

Lmarie2016

Hi everyone.. this wait is the worst:(
I was just wondering if we are able to defer any stage... if I am successful could I defer stage two and if I got through to Templemore could I defer it to the following intake if needed.

I will be travelling from overseas to do stage 2- I was just wondering was anyone else in the same situation?