Czechoslovakian Wolf Dogs

volchitsa

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Edgarfrndly wrote: »

Obviously a troll but, anyone ever thinking of buying a pet wolf or even a high-content wolfdog - don't. They are not pets and do not make for good pets. They are wild animals, which took thousands of years through artificial & natural selection before they became suitable as companions.

Wolves are extremely territorial and unpredictable.

They are used to walking great distances every day. They need to be walked miles every day by their owner and need to be kept in a very large enclosure.

The only time someone should ever own a wolf, is in a rescue center - where they have acres of land for the wolf to roam around in.

They will not respond kindly to other dogs, and are extremely powerful.

The novelty of owning a wolf will wear off after a week, when it's ripping up your house and garden - and scaring the utter tripe out of you because you expect it to act like a domestic dog, and it acts like a wild predator.

Not thinking of getting a wolf at all, but this reminds me that I met someone recently who has a Czech wolf-dog sort of yellow colour. He told me they're dogs but with some wolf instincts. Definitely looked like a wolf.

So does anyone know whether they would behave more like, say, huskies or whether they would be almost as complicated as having an actual wolf.

The guy said it doesn't bark, and shows pack behaviour (hates being alone) but other than that he seemed to think it would be fine. What do people who have more experience with dogs think?

Stheno

volchitsa wrote: »

Not thinking of getting a wolf at all, but this reminds me that I met someone recently who has a Czech wolf-dog sort of yellow colour. He told me they're dogs but with some wolf instincts. Definitely looked like a wolf.

So does anyone know whether they would behave more like, say, huskies or whether they would be almost as complicated as having an actual wolf.

The guy said it doesn't bark, and shows pack behaviour (hates being alone) but other than that he seemed to think it would be fine. What do people who have more experience with dogs think?

I had a dog many years ago that was believed to be a wolf Cross, she was a rescue.

Unlike any other dog I had.

Extremely high prey drive, very restless if alone without other dogs and a serial escape artist, we had a boundary wall where the blocks had not been filled in at junctions and I found her climbing up the wall using the holes as footholds (seven foot high wall)

Easily the most difficult animal I ever had, and I have had gsds rottie crosses, wolfhoubdss and lurches as pets as an adult.

And no she never barked, she howled.

DBB

Oops! Only realised now that I forgot to unlock this thread last night!
Here's a link to a good discussion about the breed from a year ago..
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057492968

volchitsa

Oh fantastic, thanks for that, absolutely answers my questions.
This fella had a young dog, I'll keep an eye out if I come across him again (I won't know him unless he has his dog though!) and see how things develop. I have a feeling he didn't have a lot of experience, it was definitely his first of this kind anyway, so he may have his work cut out for him.

I think he may have got him in Cz or somewhere similar, or else the dog's parents came from there, not sure now. So that may be a positive point I guess. It mayb be interesting to see.

User 101

Hi lads

Sorry about all the crap I was posting about earlier. I do still want to get a grey wolf but I realise that that is just a dream now. I would like to get a wolf dog, whichever one is the most related and looks like a grey wolf the most. An old friend of mine had a timber wolf, can you get either of these near where I am?

Thanks

tk123

Yeah the pet shop in Airside sells them. You'd need to win the lotto to buy one though with the amount of BS they eat

muddypaws

CWDs are recognised by the FCI, so therefore by the IKC. They can be shown here. As they are derived from GSDs they are probably subject to the Restricted Breed legislation.

uck51js9zml2yt

My in-laws had one in Slovakia. It was kept outside to guard the sheep and house. I never went into the yard if it was loose, though the in-laws did.

They got a German shepherd since and I've known it since it was a pup so play with it without issue. I only see it once a year.
The dogs sleep outside winter(-20) and summer (+35). It's not a house dog in any way,shape or form.

User 101

Are Timberwolves good pets? My friend had one.

muddypaws

Adamconroyref wrote: »

Are Timberwolves good pets? My friend had one.

Ask him then

Musketeer4

If I knew someone in my locality was keeping a wolf or wolf-like dog I'd be straight on to the dog warden and the guards. They are a dangerous animal and I would like to have the warden review the situation and assess the owner and dog for suitability and safety.

Does this fella have the dog for the purposes of making some kind of "hard man" statement?

DBB

Musketeer4 wrote: »

If I knew someone in my locality was keeping a wolf or wolf-like dog I'd be straight on to the dog warden and the guards. They are a dangerous animal and I would like to have the warden review the situation and assess the owner and dog for suitability and safety.

In the case of the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog, a recognised dog breed, as long as the owner obeys the dog control legislation, the warden or guards have no powers to do any of what you would ask for.

Musketeer4

I'd still request them to go take a look and ensure that all legislation is being complied with. A dog like that would make absolute shít of a child or even an adult.

DBB

Musketeer4 wrote: »

I'd still request them to go take a look and ensure that all legislation is being complied with. A dog like that would make absolute shít of a child or even an adult.

No more than any big dog could.

User 101

My friend said that he snarled at everyone and had to get him put down. Got it from Germany.

DBB

Adamconroyref wrote: »

My friend said that he snarled at everyone and had to get him put down. Got it from Germany.

So. Do you think, from his experience, that a timber wolf would make a good pet?
Whilst living in a housing estate in Swords?

HeidiHeidi

I asked in your previous thread, but you didn't answer.

Why would you want a wolf (-type dog) as a pet in a suburb of Dublin?

uck51js9zml2yt

These dogs are not suitable in any shape or form for the city.
They need space and lots of it.
Anyone who would consider getting one in a housing estate should be put down (rather than the dog);)

Musketeer4

Indeed. Animals are animals and just follow their instincts. It's the owners who make stupid decisions and ought to be destroyed.

Bunnyslippers

From what I've heard they make terrible pets as they are very timid so will often react aggressively, a housing estate in Dublin is no place for one of these wolf dogs, let alone a wolf, the size of enclosure you'd need would be huge, as you would not be able to walk it in public, the poor thing would be terrified!! Not a good look being dragged every which way by an animal that hates being on a lead and hates people, you'd look pretty stupid and will most likely end up in court after it attacks someone through no fault of its own!
It sounds to me Adamconroyref that you are looking for a status symbol with no regard for the animals welfare or needs, only your own, and buying purely on looks, this is the worst reason to get an animal like this, you will not look macho just plain stupid and it is the animal that will enevitably pay with its short miserable life for your stupidity!! These animals need highly specialised care and facilities from a super experienced owner with a lot of time and money.

As you don't know the first thing about animal care I suggest you start at the bottom, either rescue an older dog and give it a good home, and learn from there, or become a zoo keeper and look after wolves there - dublin zoo have some, try there!

User 101

I like the idea of having a wolf. I think they are very cute. I have two pets already, and would love to have one.

Musketeer4

Adamconroyref wrote: »

I like the idea of having a wolf. I think they are very cute. I have two pets already, and would love to have one.

Are you taking the piss man?
Come back and tell me they're cute after getting the face horsed off of you by one!

volchitsa

Adamconroyref wrote: »

I like the idea of having a wolf. I think they are very cute. I have two pets already, and would love to have one.

Or none? I imagine that's what would happen if your timber wolf got at them!

(Marks for perseverance, BTW, but it's still not quite subtle enough. )

User 101

Maybe a sarloos wolf dog would do it.

Dubl07

Adam, don't forget to buy heavy silver chains and maintain a steady supply of garlic and holy water if you get a wolf. If it even licks you, you'll be in trouble every time the moon is full.

Bunnyslippers

Where the head bashing on wall symbol when you need it, talk about thick and annoying!!:rolleyes:

duploelabs

Adam seems to have taken the Jon Snow Cosplay a bit too seriously, still though first step is achieved by knowing nothing (about dog ownership)

emo72

Adamconroyref wrote: »

I like the idea of having a wolf. I think they are very cute. I have two pets already, and would love to have one.

Yes I'd love the idea of having a wolf dog as a companion too. It is a lovely dream. But then reality intrudes.

User 101

Where do you get timberwolves/wolf dogs in Dublin?

User 101

Would a fox be a good pet? I saw one around the corner, thinking of catching it and brining it in. It may sound stupid, but any advice?

Dubl07

Adamconroyref wrote: »

Where do you get timberwolves/wolf dogs in Dublin?

tk123 wrote: »

Yeah the pet shop in Airside sells them. You'd need to win the lotto to buy one though with the amount of BS they eat

tk123 did the research for you.

gctest50

Adamconroyref wrote: »

Where do you get timberwolves/wolf dogs in Dublin?

What leads you to believe the one you get will end up any different ?

Adamconroyref wrote: »

My friend said that he snarled at everyone and had to get him put down. Got it from Germany.

uck51js9zml2yt

Adamconroyref wrote: »

Where do you get timberwolves/wolf dogs in Dublin?

Dublin zoo.
Waiting to read a repeat of the penguin episode

Man attempts to steal wolf from Zoo and gets eaten.
Zoo suing man's family for giving wolves food poisoning.

DBB

Okay Adamconroyref,,
You can get Foxes in any newsagents. Indeed, many supermarkets sell them too.
I've had enough of the bullish!t now Adamconroyref, you are not to post looking for how to purchase or otherwise possess animals.
Any animals. Any species.
You will be banned from the forum if you do.
Thanks
DBB