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Is this an optical illusion?

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    #2
    triggermortis
    Registered Users Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭triggermortis


    No you're not. The photo is backward. Logos on the bike and clothing are back-to-front too


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    #3
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users Posts: 8,248 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    the whole photo is inverted!

    its a mirror image of the original photo


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    #4
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    I thought it was something like that but couldnt figure it out.


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    mossym
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    some of the track bikes from the olympics had the drivetrain on the left.


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    Beasty
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    mossym wrote: »
    some of the track bikes from the olympics had the drivetrain on the left.

    Only the US Team Pursuit/Omnium Felts

    GBR Cervelos the "right way round" won out in both cases though ....


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    Beasty
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    It's a bloody steep hill they are casually climbing (or is that descending:confused:) though ......


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    mossym
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    Beasty wrote: »
    Only the US Team Pursuit/Omnium Felts

    GBR Cervelos the "right way round" won out in both cases though ....

    doesn't that count as some? :)

    and does that mean you are attributing some performance gain to having the drivetrain on the right?

    or just that harmony wouldn't allow a left sided bike to win


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    Beasty
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    mossym wrote: »
    doesn't that count as some? :)
    Only one model though ....

    I am saying any advantage they offered is unproven, and clearly not enough....


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    Daroxtar
    Registered Users Posts: 4,343 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    Beasty wrote: »
    It's a bloody steep hill they are casually climbing (or is that descending:confused:) though ......

    Funny that the water isn't cascading out of the pond ;)


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    Beasty
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    T'will be very interesting to see if any other manufacturers follow suit

    May hold off investing in a T5GB just in case....


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    Beasty
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    Daroxtar wrote: »
    Funny that the water isn't cascading out of the pond ;)

    That may just be an optical illusion......


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    robyntmorton
    Registered Users Posts: 4,263 ✭✭✭robyntmorton


    Beasty wrote: »
    Only one model though ....

    I am saying any advantage they offered is unproven, and clearly not enough....

    My honest belief was that it was bolloxology and mind games on the part of Felt/Team America. Make everyone else wonder what Felt know that everyone else doesn't.

    Of course, the results on the track don't lie!


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    mossym
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    maybe to prove if it worked or not you'd need to put the same rider on each bike to decrease the number of variables?

    could be it was a marketing gimmick. the GB team was expected to dominate the track. the release on the left got Felt lots of column inches, and in the absence of saying look our bikes won lots of medals they went for a different angle.

    if cervelo had done it, would people have said the left side was faster, or that the gb cyclists were just better?

    knowing cyclists, probably the former, and cervelo have missed a shot to sell some bikes.


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    Beasty
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    mossym wrote: »
    maybe to prove if it worked or not you'd need to put the same rider on each bike to decrease the number of variables?

    could be it was a marketing gimmick. the GB team was expected to dominate the track. the release on the left got Felt lots of column inches, and in the absence of saying look our bikes won lots of medals they went for a different angle.

    if cervelo had done it, would people have said the left side was faster, or that the gb cyclists were just better?

    knowing cyclists, probably the former, and cervelo have missed a shot to sell some bikes.
    I suspect they make very little from track bikes (despite probably very high margins). There simply is not the market to warrant it, and I also suspect they will spend more than they earn supporting the likes of Team GB.

    A couple of years ago I investigated getting hold of a T4 and was advised there would only be manufacturing 6 in my size during the whole year. With the subsequent Team GB deal I assume their limited manufacturing capacity was devoted more to international/trade teams.

    I suspect it will be next year before we see T5s on the market.


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    mossym
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    true, but they could release a road bike with a left drive train, point at the track cyclists and say look at how they dominated. most roadies would have known the track results even if they don't ride track. there is a market there for something different as well, lot of people are getting tired of black and white bikes, something different like this would appeal


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    #17
    secman
    Registered Users Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭secman


    I'd say the photographer had one leg much shorter than the other.


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    endacl
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    Beasty wrote: »
    That may just be an optical illusion......

    Nope. The pond owner is behind with his gravity bill.


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    mossym
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    secman wrote: »
    I'd say the photographer had one leg much shorter than the other.

    you think his cranks are different lengths?


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    endacl
    Registered Users Posts: 22,310 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    mossym wrote: »
    you think his cranks are different lengths?

    Bit of a personal question, no?


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    mossym
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    endacl wrote: »
    Bit of a personal question, no?

    depends on the height your mind exists from the gutter i would say..:)


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    secman
    Registered Users Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭secman


    mossym wrote: »
    you think his cranks are different lengths?

    Oops.... my bad...
    must pay attention
    Must pay attention × 50 :)


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    endacl
    Registered Users Posts: 22,310 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    mossym wrote: »
    depends on the height your mind exists from the gutter i would say..:)

    Not a great height...

    :(


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    #24
    Kaisr Sose
    Registered Users Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Beasty wrote: »
    It's a bloody steep hill they are casually climbing (or is that descending:confused:) though ......

    A steep hill with a canal or slow flowing river beside it ? :D


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    #25
    Miklos
    Registered Users Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Miklos


    I've always wanted one of those lovely ihcnaiBs.


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