SFC Final Replay - Dublin v Mayo Sat 1st October *Read Mod Note Post #1*

Robson99

Deleted User wrote: »

Just in after the game, sickened. Can't believe Deegan once again gave in to Dublin pressure.
Connelly on a number of occasions pulled players to the ground right in front of Deegan, what did he do ? Nothing. Shocking inconsistency, at Mayo's expense once again.

It worked both ways.... Deegan was poor for both teams... off the ball on Dublin defender after Keegans goal was as bad as anything that went on... so no point blaming the ref.
You should be more worried about Mayos management than the ref

km79

well done Dublin
some achievement unbeaten in 28 and back to back
The wait goes on for us

babybuilder

Littlehorny wrote: »

It was brought in to stop cynical fouling in the game, pulling down and third man tackles and the like. As someone said earlier there should be a ten minute sin bin when you get a yellow so your team suffers. I remember the year before it came in Tyrone were a couple of points up in a game and they literally rugby tackled lads down to stop them getting through and they were more than willing to accept a yellow card when there was only 5 or 10 minutes left in a game.

Them feckin nordies. Started it all.

OldMrBrennan83

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JeffKenna

Robson99 wrote: »

It worked both ways.... Deegan was poor for both teams... off the ball on Dublin defender after Keegans goal was as bad as anything that went on... so no point blaming the ref.
You should be more worried about Mayos management than the ref

I think its obvious that much like the semi the big calls went Dublin's way.

Robson99

Robson99 wrote:

It worked both ways.... Deegan was poor for both teams... off the ball on Dublin defender after Keegans goal was as bad as anything that went on... so no point blaming the ref. You should be more worried about Mayos management than the ref

Big difference a black card does not weaken Dublin, no other team has that luxury. Small threw a punch at OConnor and he gets a yellow. I'd expect Deegan won't have to buy a pint in Dublin for a while.

Moo Moo Land

Looking at it again, Dublin didn't win it, Mayo lost it;

Slow start to go 4 points down
Goalie-Penalty
Goalie-kickouts
Keegan messing about again
Key forwards Cillian O'Connor and Aidan O'Shea scored nothing from play.

And Mayo still only lost by a point.

OldMrBrennan83

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OldMrBrennan83

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Ompala

You can point to the Keegan's black card and the ref but Mayo still had the chances to win it and didn't take them.
Better team won, well done Dublin.

Littlehorny

Deleted User wrote: »

Big difference a black card does not weaken Dublin, no other team has that luxury. Small threw a punch at OConnor and he gets a yellow. I'd expect Deegan won't have to buy a pint in Dublin for a while.

They will have to try the rugby sin bin ten minutes off the field for a yellow soon, second yellow and your gone.

One_Of_Shanks

Deleted User wrote: »

Big difference a black card does not weaken Dublin

Seriously? Now the refs should issue cards based on the quality of the subs available to teams?

Ah c'mon. Nobody likes to lose a game fella but this is silly stuff.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Littlehorny wrote: »

They will have to try the rugby sin bin ten minutes off the field for a yellow soon, second yellow and your gone.

They tried that before and all the managers whinged about it (despite it working) and so it never got passed.Same thing will happen again probably.

nuac

LaGlisse wrote: »

Anyway well done Dublin I guess,play one away game all championship and spend a fortune on facilities and a professional back room team in what is pretty much financial doping.
Average dub fan not smart enough to have a bit of shame about it

Agreed.

Time there was an enquiry and rebalancing on the funds collared by Dublin at the expense of the other counties

Robson99

Deleted User wrote: »

Big difference a black card does not weaken Dublin, no other team has that luxury. Small threw a punch at OConnor and he gets a yellow. I'd expect Deegan won't have to buy a pint in Dublin for a while.

Aaah get over it. O Connors soft free at the end that he missed should have been a routine kick for any inter county free taker but he bottled it. Game was there to be won by Mayo both days but they weren't good enough... simple as.

Littlehorny

nuac wrote: »

Agreed.

Time there was an enquiry and rebalancing on the funds collared by Dublin at the expense of the other counties

Agreed, the Dubs are so well financed at the moment they are essentially professionals competing against amateurs. I know the stronger counties all "look after" their players but the Dublin lads are full time players.

rebel girl 15

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

They tried that before and all the managers whinged about it (despite it working) and so it never got passed.Same thing will happen again probably.

But iirc all those trial rules which were in for the league were voted together in one batch rather than individually, so they were on a hiding to nothing anyway

OldMrBrennan83

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Needles73

Patww79 wrote: »

You think they'd buy better suits out of it.

These ones could be cut up to dry the eyes of everyone banging on about money, population, referees, what way the wind was blowing, and the million other excuses.

I think Dublin are plenty good at excuses too when it suits ye, rain , wet ball, slippy surface etc
Anyways Dublin were the better team- so grudgingly I say "we'll done"

Dirty Dingus McGee

Dublin won they were the best team all this whinging from Dublin fans about not getting enough credit is really ****ing tiresome particularly considering the media love the Dublin footballers and will do whatever they can to praise them.

OldMrBrennan83

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One_Of_Shanks

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

Seriously? Now the refs should issue cards based on the quality of the subs available to teams?

Ah c'mon. Nobody likes to lose a game fella but this is silly stuff.

A sin bin for 10 minutes will effect both teams equally. The black card does not do that.
Connolly fooled the ref into sending Keegan off today, the replacement was no where near the quality.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Patww79 wrote: »

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That's because Mayo have not won an all Ireland in 65 years.

It's obvious neutrals would want Mayo to win.

The media were equally desperate for Dublin to win in 2011.

Thats the way people are they like to see the underdog win.

Mayo winning is much more of a story than Dublin winning so it's understandable the media would take that angle in the build up to the game.

The Talking Bread

Cluxton?????????

nice_guy80

Mayo only have themselves to blame
Changing goalkeeper for the replay?

kilns

The whole mayo half back line hilarious

kilns

Kevin McLoughlin wtf?????

LeoB

The only way out until we get referees who apply the rules evenly is to do away with the black cards. Gaelic football was showed in worst possible light by Tyrone with their cynical tackling in the final quarter of games.

If the referee lets play flow he is not applying the rules if he blows constantly he is ruining the game.
Sin bin seems to be the only answer but would we not be swapping black cards with sin bin for the sake of it. Yellow cards appear to be the best way.

Also a referee should have the power to look retrospectively at an incident and upgrade a yellow to a red and vice versa. Maybe 3 yellow cards in 3 consecutive games should mean a 1 match ban. The one thing we need to avoid is going back to puke cynical football of a few years ago.

sonique 2016

the curse

One_Of_Shanks

Deleted User wrote: »

A sin bin for 10 minutes will effect both teams equally. The black card does not do that.
Connolly fooled the ref into sending Keegan off today, the replacement was no where near the quality.

So now its the general rules?

Your previous 2 comments were about the ref, you moaned about Deegan.

The ref can't invent a sin bin mid-way through an AI final just to suit you.

So at least you're now saying it wasn't the ref's fault today afterall, a general rule change is whats needed.

Then the silly black card for Cooper could have been dealt with via a sin-bin. Oops, sorry, you never mentioned Cooper, it was just Keegan.

One_Of_Shanks

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

So now its the general rules?

Your previous 2 comments were about the ref, you moaned about Deegan.

The ref can't invent a sin bin mid-way through an AI final just to suit you.

So at least you're now saying it wasn't the ref's fault today afterall, a general rule change is whats needed.

Yes a general rule change is needed on the black card. But today there is no way you can say that Keegans(Mayo's best player) was a genuine black card ?? Deegan gave in to the pressure, simple as.

The Talking Bread

surely this is a wind up about Cluxton! Now putting him up as POTY!!

One_Of_Shanks

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes a general rule change is needed on the black card. But today there is no way you can admit that Keegans was a genuine black card ?? Deegan gave in to the pressure, simple as.

Agreed on need for change. Go back a couple of pages. I said Cooper and Keegans black cards were wrong.

The difference is that I'll point out the mistakes on both sides, whereas you seem to be a bit one-sided about the entire thing.

kona

kona wrote: »

I'd count a massive extend period of winning nothing other than a poor provincial championship surrendering.

Let's face it deep down you know you will roll over Saturday. It's what mayo do. You did it last year, the year before and in 2013 you couldn't beat dublin when dublin were left with 12 players who could actually run.

Hill 16 la la la.

I jest.

Nothing but respect for mayo.

Cillian o Connor. Hold your head up.

One_Of_Shanks

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

Agreed on need for change. Go back a couple of pages. I said Cooper and Keegans black cards were wrong.

The difference is that I'll point out the mistakes on both sides, whereas you seem to be a bit one-sided about the entire thing.

Coopers while harsh was a by the rules a black card, Keegans wasn't a black card by any interpretation of the rules. Keegan should be player of the year, you are underestimating what effect Deegan sending him off caused.

charlie1980

The Dubs layed Mayo out,strung them up and Man...I mean,they gutted them.

Cometh the hour cometh the man and O'Conner bottled it in front of hill 16.

Rochford felt the pressure and self destructed with the dropping of an all star goal keeper,wtf Mcnamee allowed that.

C'mon you boys in blue.

kona

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Coopers while harsh was a by the rules a black card, Keegans wasn't a black card by any interpretation of the rules. Keegan should be player of the year, you are underestimating what effect Deegan sending him off caused.

Go home. Your drunk.

charlie1980

charlie1980 wrote: »

Rochford felt the pressure and self destructed with the dropping of an all star goal keeper,wtf Mcnamee allowed that.

Made no sense Clark was excellent in the first game

Needles73

charlie1980 wrote: »

The Dubs layed Mayo out,strung them up and Man...I mean,they gutted them.

Cometh the hour cometh the man and O'Conner bottled it in front of hill 16.

Rochford felt the pressure and self destructed with the dropping of an all star goal keeper,wtf Mcnamee allowed that.

C'mon you boys in blue.

"Gutted them" = 1 point winning margin.... Good man, go and look up what it means to gut someone

The Talking Bread

charlie1980 wrote: »

The Dubs layed Mayo out,strung them up and Man...I mean,they gutted them.

Cometh the hour cometh the man and O'Conner bottled it in front of hill 16.

Rochford felt the pressure and self destructed with the dropping of an all star goal keeper,wtf Mcnamee allowed that.

C'mon you boys in blue.

celebrate a win by obsessing and slagging the other team? Classy and mature for a man in his mid 30s

kona

charlie1980 wrote: »

The Dubs layed Mayo out,strung them up and Man...I mean,they gutted them.

Cometh the hour cometh the man and O'Conner bottled it in front of hill 16.

Rochford felt the pressure and self destructed with the dropping of an all star goal keeper,wtf Mcnamee allowed that.

C'mon you boys in blue.

Apart from the bizarre gk call. Dublin far from gutted them. Dublin tried to swagger in the last ten. They did. But only for costello Sam would be heading West.

One_Of_Shanks

Deleted User wrote: »

Coopers while harsh was a by the rules a black card, Keegans wasn't a black card by any interpretation of the rules.

Ah here. Look if you really truly are hell bent on blaming the ref for losing today then why am I even trying to stop you?

Go with that so. It was the referee that beat Mayo eh? Enjoy your night

washman3

Cant understand why the Mayo player who clocked Cooper after Keegan's goal got away scot free. Ran at least 5 metres to do it and caught Cooper completely blind-sided. Mean,sneaky and cowardly. Also completely ignored by the 'expert analysists' on the RTE panel.

One_Of_Shanks

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

Ah here. Look if you really truly are hell bent on blaming the ref for losing today then why am I even trying to stop you?

Go with that so. It was the referee that beat Mayo eh? Enjoy your night

No i blame a lack of decent forwards for losing the game, but having Lee Keegan for the full game would likely have brought sam west. Unfortunately Deegan wrongly sent off one of the best players in the country. To think that did not make a difference is frankly bizzare.

babybuilder

LeoB wrote: »

The only way out until we get referees who apply the rules evenly is to do away with the black cards. Gaelic football was showed in worst possible light by Tyrone with their cynical tackling in the final quarter of games.

If the referee lets play flow he is not applying the rules if he blows constantly he is ruining the game.
Sin bin seems to be the only answer but would we not be swapping black cards with sin bin for the sake of it. Yellow cards appear to be the best way.

Also a referee should have the power to look retrospectively at an incident and upgrade a yellow to a red and vice versa. Maybe 3 yellow cards in 3 consecutive games should mean a 1 match ban. The one thing we need to avoid is going back to puke cynical football of a few years ago.

I agree with the sin bin. It's been used before and wasn't given the chance.
Let's knock this lie about cynism originating with Tyrone. Have a look over the "famous" Dublin Meath four game saga in 1991. Non stop cynical fouling . Go back even further if you want. Might want to start with Kerry v Antrim 1946 semi-final. More recent would be Kerry's tactics vs Mayo in Limerick.

OldMrBrennan83

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Juwwi

Anyone see who got man of the match today ?

thanks

OldMrBrennan83

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gormdubhgorm

Littlehorny wrote: »

Dub's bench made all the difference today, Mac Cauley, Brogan done well and Costello was brilliant. Mayo had no one to got to.
As others have said for a supposed top man, Aiden O Shea is completely overated, he went missing for the whole second half.
The look of disgust on the face of the Mayo goalie who was dropped at the end of the game said it all.

A Mayo told me that a o Shea is not a very intelligent player so he is wasting his physical attributes.

charlie1980

do you know what?