Did you hear about the Irishwoman in prison in Iran?

Jawgap

Grayson wrote: »

Not really. The thread is a bit farsi-cal anyway.



Now that's a pun.

What kind of Persian is she anyway?

Grayson

Ilovemybricks wrote: »

She's never lived here and has no Irish ancestry. There's absolutely nothing Irish about her and if there's a way of rescinding her citizenship then do it.

I wouldn't give citizenship to yanks what weren't born here or born to Irish born parents either btw.

Just to clarify, if your parents are Irish but you weren't born here, you're not entitled to Irish citizenship (in your opinion, not according to the law which we know is different)

Ilovemybricks

Grayson wrote: »

Just to clarify, if your parents are Irish but you weren't born here, you're not entitled to Irish citizenship (in your opinion, not according to the law which we know is different)

Read the thread and work on your comprehension.

Ilovemybricks

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

It's not enough for you that an elderly woman who is a citizen of this country has been imprisoned for inter alia "dabbling in feminism", you're busily frothing for the Minister for Justice to revoke her citizenship altogether.

The more I read opinions like this, the more I am convinced that universal suffrage sometimes amounts to putting a loaded firearm into the hands of a child. Yours is an utterly warped approach to fair play. Whether or not you agree with the fact of Homa Hoodfar's citizenship of Ireland, it is a fact. The State has no right to order a general hierarchy of citizens, as long as they are citizens.

There is no suggestion that Homa Hoodfar obtained her citizenship through fraud or deception, or has failed in her duty of loyalty to Ireland. Therefore can you now please let go of this irrational preoccupation with the revocation of Prof. Hoodfar's citizenship by the Minister for Justice?

On the other hand I think there is a very distinct possibility that in its very silence in speaking out against an apparent attack on academic and personal freedom, to make a public statement in that regard, and to register its disquiet, the State is failing in its obligation to defend the rights of one of its citizens.

It's absurd that this Iranian Canadian was ever given citizenship. She's never lived here and isn't of Irish descent. There's absolutely nothing Irish about this person. If the Minister can rescind her citizenship, and from anyone who obtained similarly, then she should.


How can she be "loyal" to three countries at once and to one she's never even lived in? Absurd.

And naturalised citizens are second class citizens. Their citizenship can be revoked. Natural born citizens can't have theirs rescinded.

Anyway, legally, she's an Iranian in an Iranian jail. None of our concern.

Grayson

Ilovemybricks wrote: »

Read the thread and work on your comprehension.

Your grammar isn't great. Not giving out about it. My typing is useless. You'll notice my posts can have mistakes in them. That's why I'm asking. I just want clarification.

Ilovemybricks

Ilovemybricks wrote: »

Read the thread and work on your comprehension.

Ilovemybricks wrote: »

Can you read?

Trying to win the argument by charm!

Anyway, the bottom line is, the State decides who is a citizen or not, not you. And if the State has granted this woman citizenship, your claim that she is not or should not be because you say so is irrelevant. And if she is indeed a citizen, well she should get the same assistance as someone who was born in a Gaeltacht and can sing the Rocks of Bawn.

mzungu

This story has not taken off because unless there is some rock 'n' roll in there, or a human interest* angle to grab readers, then it's all an uphill struggle for the story to gain traction. Otherwise, it might get a few articles here and there in the media, but make no real impact otherwise.

Also, we don't know if Charlie Flanagan is scoping things out via back channels. There might very well be a line of communication open between ourselves and Tehran.

* That is not to say this is not a human interest story, to my mind it is. However, it seems to be mostly the Canadian and US branches of Amnesty coming out to bat for her, with Amnesty Ireland pushing an article or two on their website.

Jesus.

Grayson wrote: »

Your grammar isn't great. Not giving out about it. My typing is useless. You'll notice my posts can have mistakes in them. That's why I'm asking. I just want clarification.

Your maths ain't too hot either

Grayson wrote: »

10,000 would result in a change of 0.002%

Let me put this a different way.

0.002%


That's the only way I can make that number look big.

mcmoustache

She might not be Irish in any way but i would like her to be supported. Ibrahim can stay where he wanted to be. She strikes me as not being a jihadist and more of a political prisoner. If we spent money and lobbying to get her out, i wouldn't have a problem.

Grayson

Jesus. wrote: »

Your maths ain't too hot either

1) you're wrong. I have a degree in Maths. Which makes that mistake really embarrassing. We all have a brain fart sometimes.

2) way to go well out of the way to dodge the question. I just wanted you to clarify what you meant. Did you mean that the children of Irish citizens shouldn't be entitled to be citizens if they were born abroad. Because that's how your previous statement read.

Beta Uprising

If she's technically an Irish citizen then I guess the government should make a formal complaint or something but if she's never lived here and has no real connection with Ireland then it's hard for me to feel any real outrage.

Son Of A Vidic

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Did you hear about the Irishwoman in prison in Iran?

Thread title reads like a joke intro.

Beta Uprising

Beta Uprising wrote: »

If she's technically an Irish citizen then I guess the government should make a formal complaint or something but if she's never lived here and has no real connection with Ireland then it's hard for me to feel any real outrage.

There is no "technically" about it.

Nor are there levels of citizenship.

Our Constitution refers to all people born in Ireland and all qualified by law to be citizens as part of the Irish Nation. Article 9 States that acquisition and loss of nationality and citizenship shall be determined by law. Not blood, not connection, not living here. I appreciate that this does not mean you must be outraged, but rather that the State has the same duty to this person as it has to any other Irish citizen.

foggy_lad

This is just another bleedin heart activist trying to act the martyr for their cause while painting the country or regime as evil and anti women and family.

The Iranians know how to handle such people. She got what she wanted, I hope it doesn't cost her life but hey if you walk a tightrope with no balance pole you should expect to fall.

Jesus.

Grayson wrote: »

1) you're wrong. I have a degree in Maths. Which makes that mistake really embarrassing. We all have a brain fart sometimes.

2) way to go well out of the way to dodge the question. I just wanted you to clarify what you meant. Did you mean that the children of Irish citizens shouldn't be entitled to be citizens if they were born abroad. Because that's how your previous statement read.

Grayson I'm seriously starting to worry about you. That 0.002% thing was my only post in this thread.

conorhal

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

The Irish nation is not a geographic entity. JUst look at all those Yanks who've never been outside their tri-state area, who legitimately enjoy Irish nationality.

Our genetic history is one of coming and going, and dispersing all across the world, a bit like the Jews or the Roma. Uniting us, however, are the principles we live by and the community with which we identify.

I for one couldn't be happier to have as a member of our society an Iranian-born scholar who started a family with an Irishman, and apparently has a strong interest in Irish culture and history, and whose life's work involves the promotion of women's liberty. This might not have been such a grim little island over the past 100 years, especially for women, if we had had more Homa Hoodfars.

What a load of bollox.

Irish citizenship is nothing but another comodity to be traded and monitized these days. Just ask the Lithuanian girl my mate works with. She got her Irish citizenship last year. When he asked her why (since as an EU member citizen she hardly needed to apply for it) she had chosen to become an Irish citizen he reply was effectively, "Do you know what a pain it the ass it is to get a visa to go shopping in New York with a Lithuanian passport?" What principles and community does that reasoning represent prey tell?

kunst nugget

foggy_lad wrote: »

This is just another bleedin heart activist trying to act the martyr for their cause while painting the country or regime as evil and anti women and family.

The Iranians know how to handle such people. She got what she wanted, I hope it doesn't cost her life but hey if you walk a tightrope with no balance pole you should expect to fall.

Was she in the country protesting or out trying to publicly embarrass the government? I can't see any evidence of that. As far as I can make out she was in the country visiting family and researching women's participation in elections since 1906. Her only crime seems to be writing about issues that face Muslim women and being unlucky enough to be visiting the country at the wrong time so in that regard her being arrested for being part of a feminist conspiracy doesn't do much for assuaging the fears that Iran as a country isn't anti-woman.

And though she has written articles on Iran, the country where she was born was in no way the focus of her academic research. Although her reasons to visit Iran this year were entirely personal, she conducted some archival research while there. More importantly, however, her visit coincided with the Iranian elections in which the most women in the history of the country were voted into government positions.

Perhaps therein lies the key to her abrupt, unfounded detainment. The election marked a further shift toward the reformist policies championed by President Hassan Rouhani, since the 14 women elected in March are all reformists themselves. Many religious hardliners in the country, including the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, have not welcomed the move toward reform; and while more progressive-minded leaders are increasingly gaining power within government, there is a strong divide in the nation because Khamenei still controls the national broadcast media as well as the armed forces, including the Revolutionary Guard that detained Hoodfar.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/truthdigger_of_the_week_homa_hoodfar_expert_on_the_20160723

She also suffers from Myasthenia gravis so her being imprisoned without medical treatment could be a very serious issue for her. I can't say my feeling towards her imprisonment would be one of 'good enough for her'. Canada doesn't seem to have any direct diplomacy with Iran but Ireland has an Iranian Embassy in Dublin so I think Ireland should try to help this woman in her time of need.

Jesus.

kunst nugget wrote: »

Her only crime seems to be writing about issues that face Muslim women.

In that case she might be better off where she is. God knows what the Islam loving feminists of the west would do if they got a hold of her.

Grayson

Jesus. wrote: »

Grayson I'm seriously starting to worry about you. That 0.002% thing was my only post in this thread.

ah jaysus

Musketeer4

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

I'm not 100% au fait with this lady's history with Ireland and how she came to be a citizen but I do think that the ease of which people have gained citizenship in Ireland in recent years has made us (the public) a little indifferent to the predicament of people who are seemingly Irish on paper only.

Just my theory.

You're dead right.

A case that jumps to mind is that one of the ' "Irishman":rolleyes: rotting in an Egyptian prison'.

Irish me hole!!

Jawgap

Musketeer4 wrote: »

You're dead right.

A case that jumps to mind is that one of the ' "Irishman":rolleyes: rotting in an Egyptian prison'.

Irish me hole!!

....and the Irishman rotting in a Brazilian prison

foggy_lad

foggy_lad wrote: »

This is just another bleedin heart activist trying to act the martyr

This must be very confusing for you.

On the one hand, you have a major problem with Islam and it wasn't too hard to find posts where you were complaining about Muslims having "very strange non western views on treating women"

This woman is critical of how women are treated in Islamic societies. But at the same, time, you hate "bleeding heart liberals" which you deduce Prof Hoodfar to be.

Oh Ouch. What a conundrum. How are you going to square your problem with Islam, with your problem with liberals?

Some really foggy thinking there, lad.

Musketeer4

Musketeer4 wrote: »

You're dead right.

A case that jumps to mind is that one of the ' "Irishman":rolleyes: rotting in an Egyptian prison'.

Irish me hole!!

Hands up.

Ibrahim Halawa was born and reared here, no?

Why the utter dismissal of his Irish credentials?

AGC

Jawgap wrote: »

You can't renounce Iranian citizenship so as far as they're concerned she's Iranian.

Exactly, she could have 50 passports but because she is born in Iran she is Iranian. They do not acknowledge dual citizenship and another country can not interfere with the legal system of another country.

Rightly or wrongly imprisoned the Irish Government can do nothing which will change an Iranian decision

Halawa is a whole different ball game

Musketeer4

Ibrahim Halawa? Irish? Don't make me laugh.
He was born and reared in Ireland yes. That doesn't mean he's "Irish".

You can't seriously suggest that someone born to Islamist immigrants and who holds fairly extreme Muslim views and lives in a parallel culture in the capital can be considered just as Irish as some other young fella from Tipperary who plays Junior B, binge drinks every Saturday and who spent summers haulin' silage, picking shtones and hurring after young wans.

If Ibrahim Halawa did that growing up then fair enough but come on, he's "irish" on paper only. He is not truly Irish.

AGC

Deleted User wrote: »

And if she is indeed a citizen, well she should get the same assistance as someone who was born in a Gaeltacht and can sing the Rocks of Bawn.

The Iranians do not see her as an Irish or Canadian Citizen so will not let Embassy officials near her.

kunst nugget

Musketeer4 wrote: »

He was born and reared in Ireland yes. That doesn't mean he's "Irish".

You can't seriously suggest that someone born to Islamist immigrants and who holds fairly extreme Muslim views and lives in a parallel culture in the capital can be considered just as Irish as some other young fella from Tipperary who plays Junior B, binge drinks every Saturday and who spent summers haulin' silage, picking shtones and hurring after young wans.

He's "irish" on paper. He is not Irish.

I don't follow GAA. Am I fooked if I ever get arrested abroad?

foggy_lad

kunst nugget wrote: »

Was she in the country protesting or out trying to publicly embarrass the government? I can't see any evidence of that. As far as I can make out she was in the country visiting family and researching women's participation in elections since 1906. Her only crime seems to be writing about issues that face Muslim women and being unlucky enough to be visiting the country at the wrong time so in that regard her being arrested for being part of a feminist conspiracy doesn't do much for assuaging the fears that Iran as a country isn't anti-woman.



http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/truthdigger_of_the_week_homa_hoodfar_expert_on_the_20160723

She also suffers from Myasthenia gravis so her being imprisoned without medical treatment could be a very serious issue for her. I can't say my feeling towards her imprisonment would be one of 'good enough for her'. Canada doesn't seem to have any direct diplomacy with Iran but Ireland has an Iranian Embassy in Dublin so I think Ireland should try to help this woman in her time of need.

And the Halawa family members were only on holiday in Egypt and not attending terrorist rallies and riots.:rolleyes:

AGC wrote: »

Exactly, she could have 50 passports but because she is born in Iran she is Iranian. They do not acknowledge dual citizenship and another country can not interfere with the legal system of another country.

Rightly or wrongly imprisoned the Irish Government can do nothing which will change an Iranian decision

Halawa is a whole different ball game

Halawa is the same ball game!

When in Rome/Iran/Egypt you do as the Romans/Iranians/Egyptians do or face Roman/Iranian/Egyptian laws and punishments!

Musketeer4

When in Rome/Iran/Egypt you do as the Romans/Iranians/Egyptians do or face Roman/Iranian/Egyptian laws and punishments!

Oh, he'll probably get away with crucifixion.
Best thing the Roman's ever done for us!
If they didn't have crucifixion, that country would be in a right bloody mess!

BrokenArrows

Ilovemybricks wrote: »

She's never even lived here and has no Irish ancestry. Ridiculous that she's a citizen.

It's none of our business what happens to Iranians in Iran.

How about a child of Irish parents where the child has never lived in Ireland. Should they be entitled to help from the Irish government?

I cant find any information on whether she ever lived in Ireland or not. Under current laws you need to have lived here for 3 years and be married to an Irish citizen in order to become an Irish citizen.
Before 2005 you could just apply for citizenship after marriage without needing to live here. I assume that's what happened as her husband is now dead.

Regardless of the situation she is obviously being detained for breaching (what westeners consider) to be stupid laws and Irish and Canadian governments should be doing everything they can to help.

AGC

foggy_lad wrote: »

And the Halawa family members were only on holiday in Egypt and not attending terrorist rallies and riots.:rolleyes:

Halawa is the same ball game!

When in Rome/Iran/Egypt you do as the Romans/Iranians/Egyptians do or face Roman/Iranian/Egyptian laws and punishments!

Fully agree with that - My point is Halawa is on an Irish passport and has received more consular assistance than anyone I can think off.

Hoodfar simply won't get consular assistance from here or Canada

Musketeer4

That moron Halawa should just admit to what he was up to, take his scolding and hopefully be allowed out of jail. Is his family Egyptian originally or what country are they belonging to?

AGC

BrokenArrows wrote: »

Regardless of the situation she is obviously being detained for breaching (what westeners consider) to be stupid laws and Irish and Canadian governments should be doing everything they can to help.

But they can't, they have zero legal standing. Iran is dealing with her as an Iranian.

It is the Iranian Embassies who have had protests over this - Not Government Offices.

Lobbying would fall on deaf ears.

AGC

AGC wrote: »

The Iranians do not see her as an Irish or Canadian Citizen so will not let Embassy officials near her.

Link?

I'm aware the Iranian authorities may not recognize prof Hoodfar's Irish citizenship, but the Irish diplomatic service has a good relationship with Teheran, having recently operated a trade mission there; in fact, our Consul is himself an Iranian businessman. I don't see why he would be necessarily precluded from visiting this woman in prison.

foggy_lad

Musketeer4 wrote: »

That moron Halawa should just admit to what he was up to, take his scolding and hopefully be allowed out of jail. Is his family Egyptian originally or what country are they belonging to?

His daddy is a big shot in the Muslim Brotherhood aparrently. they are all Egyptian but have Irish passports.

AGC

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Link?

I'm aware the Iranian authorities may not recognize prof Hoodfar's Irish citizenship, but the Irish diplomatic service has a good relationship with Teheran, having recently operated a trade mission there; in fact, our Consul is himself an Iranian businessman. I don't see why he would be necessarily precluded from visiting this woman in prison.

Go onto the DFA website travel advice section and it clearly warns that no consular assistance can be provided to dual nationals as Iran does not recognise them.

There is also American - Iranian citizens locked up and the Americans concerns have been simply ignored.

Musketeer4

Musketeer4 wrote: »

Ibrahim Halawa? Irish? Don't make me laugh.
He was born and reared in Ireland yes. That doesn't mean he's "Irish".

You can't seriously suggest that someone born to Islamist immigrants and who holds fairly extreme Muslim views and lives in a parallel culture in the capital can be considered just as Irish as some other young fella from Tipperary who plays Junior B, binge drinks every Saturday and who spent summers haulin' silage, picking shtones and hurring after young wans.

If Ibrahim Halawa did that growing up then fair enough but come on, he's "irish" on paper only. He is not truly Irish.

Ah.

Took your earlier post at face value!

Please, not the "shtones" stuff though, too close to that awful "shteak and shpuds" line.

AGC

AGC wrote: »

Go onto the DFA website travel advice section and it clearly warns that no consular assistance can be provided to dual nationals as Iran does not recognise them.

But I'm not talking about consular assistance, e.g. liason with police authorities, legal advice, organizing medical treatment, etc. I'm referring to a simple visit, and your suggestion that no official can be let near her.

I have repeatedly said that there is probably no obligation for the Iranians to listen to an Irish diplomat, but Ireland does have a good relationship with Iran, we both share an anti-imperialist political history, and there is 4 billion euro worth of trade flowing between us.

I think the Irish diplomatic service should be speaking out about its disquiet, and it should be at least visiting Prof Hoodfar to check that she's doing alright, which apparently isn't happening according to her colleagues.

AGC

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

But I'm not talking about consular assistance, e.g. liason with police authorities, legal advice, organizing medical treatment, etc. I'm referring to a simple visit, and your suggestion that no official can be let near her.

I have repeatedly said that there is probably no obligation for the Iranians to listen to an Irish diplomat, but Ireland does have a good relationship with Iran, we both share an anti-imperialist political history, and there is 4 billion euro worth of trade flowing between us.

I think the Irish diplomatic service should be speaking out about its disquiet, and it should be at least visiting Prof Hoodfar to check that she's doing alright, which apparently isn't happening according to her colleagues.

Press Statements have been released saying it has been raised with the Iranian Embassy.

There seems to be issues even getting an Iranian Solicitor in to see her so just because we might have good relations does not mean we have any right to visit and again the Iranian do not care that she has an Irish passport.

'Should at least be visiting' there is no Irish Embassy in Tehran, Turkey deals with it I believe and the Iranians do not care - She is Iranian to them.

The same applies in many countries around the world and you have to respect that the same way the Iranian or any other government would respect our legal system whether it is right or wrong.

And you are talking about consular assistance - If you want a diplomatic official to visit that is consular assistance, it comes in many forms.

Ilovemybricks

BrokenArrows wrote: »

How about a child of Irish parents where the child has never lived in Ireland. Should they be entitled to help from the Irish government?

No.

AGC

AGC wrote: »

Press Statements have been released saying it has been raised with the Iranian Embassy.

'Should at least be visiting' there is no Irish Embassy in Tehran, Turkey deals with it I believe and the Iranians do not care - She is Iranian to them.

How long a gap was there between your writing these two paragraphs in the same post.

There is no Embassy in Iran, there is a Consulate in Teheran, and the Consul is the head of that Mission.

Iranian do not care that she has an Irish passport.

You're making all these assertions without any facts behind them. They might not recognize her citizenship, but in practical terms, I have no idea whether or not they care. As I said, Iran and Ireland have had a good historic relationship, there's been a recent trade mission that seems to have gone down well, and these is a multi-billion euro trade between us.

Communication doesn't happen in a vaccum of legal obligations. Things like trade and good diplomatic relations do count for something.

AGC

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

How long a gap was there between your writing these two paragraphs in the same post.

There is no Embassy in Iran, there is a Consulate in Teheran, and the Consul is the head of that Mission.

You're making all these assertions without any facts behind them. They might not recognize her citizenship, but in practical terms, I have no idea whether or not they care. As I said, Iran and Ireland have had a good historic relationship, there's been a recent trade mission that seems to have gone down well, and these is a multi-billion euro trade between us.

Communication doesn't happen in a vaccum of legal obligations. Things like trade and good diplomatic relations do count for something.

A consul is an honorary position, it is not a consulate which is Diplomatic representation.

The FACT is Iran does not recognise dual citizens, they are the facts behind it. Foreign Affairs travel advice tells us this, is that not fact enough????

Any good relationship would not matter.

AGC

AGC wrote: »

A consul is an honorary position, it is not a consulate which is Diplomatic representation.

http://www.embassypages.com/missions/embassy25659/

Any good relationship would not matter.

https://www.google.ie/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=diplomacy+definition

AGC

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

http://www.embassypages.com/missions/embassy25659/


https://www.google.ie/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=diplomacy+definition

An honorary consul is not a diplomat, they are not a DFA employee, they may never have even been in Ireland!! They are generally a business person who will issue the odd document. I hope you are never in trouble abroad but if you are in a country without an Irish embassy do not waste your time with someone who can't do anything for you, get yourself to a British or any EU embassy.

Do you not get the point that diplomacy will not work??? Iran as a country have arrested and imprisoned an Iranian citizen, if she wants assistance she should and I am sure she has employed local council.

Statements have been released by DFA outlining their concerns and also America and Britain the Iranians do not have to engage because they do not need to, DFA and government have to respect the local laws.

She needs legal assistance not consular. Of course friends, families, organisations will try highlight her plight here because she holds an Irish passport but it is the Iranian authorities they need to be raising them with - as they did at the Iranian Embassy.

AGC

AGC wrote: »

An honorary consul is not a diplomat

He is not a professional diplomat, i.e. he is unpaid for his diplomatic work. Of course he's a bloody diplomat.

Do you not get the point that diplomacy will not work???

As I said, there is 4 billion euro of trade between our two countries, the Iranians apparently have some kind of affinity with our anti-imperial past, and yes, I do think diplomacy can play a role here.

AGC

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

He is not a professional diplomat, i.e. he is unpaid for his diplomatic work. Of course he's a bloody diplomat.

As I said, there is 4 billion euro of trade between our two countries, the Iranians apparently have some kind of affinity with our anti-imperial past, and yes, I do think diplomacy can play a role here.

He is not a diplomat, simple as. How can an Iranian citizen be an Irosh diplomat?? Think about it. Michael Smurfit is an honorary consul, is he a diplomat???

Unfortunately diplomacy will not work in this case as the many reasons outlined.

AGC

AGC wrote: »

He is not a diplomat, simple as. How can an Iranian citizen be an Irosh diplomat??

How do you know he isn't Irish?

He's an Oxbridge graduate, he lived in the U.K. I don't know if he's lived in Ireland, but i know he works for Irish firms dealing with Iran.

The fact that he has an iranian background does not preclude him from being the Irish consul. A consul is an unpaid diplomat.

This thread is descending into the absurd. The lengths people will go to to justify inaction is astounding.

AGC

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

How do you know he isn't Irish?

He's an Oxbridge graduate, he lived in the U.K. I don't know if he's lived in Ireland, but i know he works for Irish firms dealing with Iran.

The fact that he has an iranian background does not preclude him from being the Irish consul. A consul is an unpaid diplomat.

This thread is descending into the absurd. The lengths people will go to to justify inaction is astounding.

Jesus Christ I am all for action but the action needs to be done in Iran.

Can you really not understand a country not recognising dual citizens and can you really not understand what that means??? There are many countries around the world that take the same position as Iran.

Ireland, Canada, America, Britain, France, do you think they are all just not taking action for their citizens because they couldn't be bothered?? There are reasons which have been said time and time again, If you can't realise that keep bashing your head against a brick wall.

Also do a bit of research into the whole honorary consul, consulates, embassies and diplomats because you seem to be all over the place with their meanings.

AGC

Also I know he is not Irish along with many Irish Honorary Consuls around the world, nationalities are irrelevant

AGC

She has been released