Friend refusing to pay for damage he caused.

Ush1

If he knew your phone was in there, ask him to pay up. If he doesn't pay, learn some kickboxing, swift shin to the dome.

Miaireland

What are his parents like? If they are decent people and he knew the phone was in the pencil case. Contact them and explain the situation and request that they talk to there son and encourage him to do the right thing. Have the receipt for repair.

Stealthfins

I remember someone squashed my Iron Maiden tape,told him he'll look like Eddie if he's not careful.

Eddie's the guy on the front cover

endagibson

calvinr22 wrote: »

To get it out of my way I put it in my pencil case and zipped it up.

Suddenly Dan picked up the pencil case and threw it at a wall, hard.

So he knew that the phone was in there, correct?

wandatowell

This Dan sounds like a serious dude.

GreatDefector

deadanonymau5 wrote: »

The squashing of the mandarin was a key moment in the build up to the pencil case throwing thus the phone breaking.

Funny enough, it's like the Scorsese of storytelling

3hrs long but full of character depth, touching and very moving story

The pencil case's death though gory was artistic and the final reveal that the phone was inside the entire time... well that was just...

Head in a box stuff

endacl

Jaysus. Teenagers and phones...

el_gaucho

roadrunner16 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78-4RobJQ0Y

I'd pay it and leave him behind.

You beat me to it!
So true though.

face1990

But for his actions the phone wouldn't be broken - novus actus interveniens, mentioned above.

However, you were the first to mess around with the pencil case. He can't be expected to know that you put a phone into it later on.

So although he was the one that threw it, it was proportional to the horseplay you had already taken part it.
And a pencil case is not safe place to keep a phone (not least because no-one expects it to contain a phone).

My verdict: you were negligent, you pay. If he's really decent he might pay half, but is not obliged to. Both of you learn a lesson about respecting other people's stuff.

listermint

Op it's a long time since an S4 was a 400 euro phone. Buy a second hand one off adverts. This is up for 80 could get it for last there are others

http://www.adverts.ie/11399937

Or buy your own screen and fix it yourself it's easy videos all over the place.

Either way he's still your friend. You'll get over it


http://m.ebay.ie/itm/New-For-Samsung-i9500-Galaxy-S4-LCD-Display-Screen-Touch-Digitizer-Frame-Blue-T-/182231938755?nav=SEARCH

bajer101

Green Peter

Growing up can be a bitch!

realitykeeper

You could mention the small claims court to see if that loosens the purse strings. I would not actually go to the small claims court but a confident bluff may work. The fact that you hit him back jokingly gives him the opportunity to say you smashed his skull in, almost. Putting down to a lessen learned is good advice, the lesson is worth a lot more than the phone.

endacl

realitykeeper wrote: »

You could mention the small claims court to see if that loosens the purse strings. I would not actually go to the small claims court but a confident bluff may work. The fact that you hit him back jokingly gives him the opportunity to say you smashed his skull in, almost. Putting down to a lessen learned is good advice, the lesson is worth a lot more than the phone.

The other party, unlike many posters on boards, may be aware that the SCC ≠ Judge Judy. A confident bluff may leave him looking like a tool.

SteM

realitykeeper wrote: »

You could mention the small claims court to see if that loosens the purse strings. I would not actually go to the small claims court but a confident bluff may work. The fact that you hit him back jokingly gives him the opportunity to say you smashed his skull in, almost. Putting down to a lessen learned is good advice, the lesson is worth a lot more than the phone.

You can't bring an individual to small claims court.

Harvey Normal

I'd be careful. Hitting somebody with a pencil case big enough to hold a Samsung is possible criminal assault. Even if he squashed your mandarin. Breaking a phone accidentally is a civil matter.

endacl

SteM wrote: »

You can't bring an individual to small claims court.

Yes you can.

5rtytry56

endacl wrote: »

Jaysus. Teenagers and phones...

Could be the name of a movie.

..Anyone remember "Women & Cigarettes"
with James Gandolfini and Christopher Walken?

Probably not teenagers...they would have been babies.

28064212

endacl wrote: »

Yes you can.

Only if that "individual" is acting as a business (e.g. sole trader):
http://www.courts.ie/Courts.ie/Library3.nsf/0/50A0FEDF19079201802574050061745F?OpenDocument

To be eligible to use the procedure, you, the 'consumer' must have bought the goods or services (or the service) for private use from someone selling them in the course of business.

StereoSound

I got my big brother to batter the shoite out of someone who broke my radio controlled car. It was a hobby grade one and not a toy.. went to the school yard to use it and he crashed it into a tree and mangled it. I said to him..."you pay for that or I'll get my brother to batter the snot out of you, you big tosspot!".. He said no, so my brother battered him.. He gave my brother £30 for parts to fix it. Result! Sometimes the old ways are the best.. This was back in 96'.

Anyways back to android phones lol.....

xabi

Judge Judy or get revenge, when I was your age there where hundreds of ways to get revenge on bullies.

Milly33

Fine tis kinda crappy but at the same time why did you have your phone in school. Lesson learned no

Kimbot

xabi wrote: »

Judge Judy or get revenge, when I was your age there where hundreds of ways to get revenge on bullies.

Ah here, there is no mention of any "Bully" and what the kid done is not the same as bullying.

xabi

jonnycivic wrote: »

Ah here, there is no mention of any "Bully" and what the kid done is not the same as bullying.

Dan sounds like a bully to me or maybe just an asshole or maybe both

Letree

You both partook on a bit of rapscallionery and a phone got broken. I'm not sure either one of you could be fully blamed for the broken phone.

deadanonymau5

realitykeeper wrote: »

You could mention the small claims court to see if that loosens the purse strings. I would not actually go to the small claims court but a confident bluff may work. The fact that you hit him back jokingly gives him the opportunity to say you smashed his skull in, almost. Putting down to a lessen learned is good advice, the lesson is worth a lot more than the phone.

Maybe... if he was hoping that Dan forgot what he learned for the Junior Cert about the Small Claims Court!

Annasopra

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

Just text/what's app him to say the phone was damaged when he threw the pencil case against the wall, it's going to cost you €x to get it fixed and you'd appreciate it of he'd pay 50% as you were both acting the pr1ck and should share the responsibility.

If he's really your friend he'll agree, if he doesn't then he's not much of a friend so chalk it down to experience and move on.

In fairness there's no way he could be expected to think that a pencil case you'd been hitting him with could contain a €400 phone. You set a precedent when you treated the pencil case irresponsibly yourself so he has plenty of mitigation in his favor.

I agree

You pay 50 repair, he pays 50 repair.

Thats fair.

deadanonymau5

It's a shame face kicker was banned, he would probably have some solid advice.

cargo

calvinr22 wrote: »

What should I do?

Don't be like Dan

lassykk

Has to be the most bizarre thread I've ever read in Android Devices!