Smartphone Prices

Cienciano

Kyng Billions Six-pack wrote: »

Why would you need to change your messenger or whatever when the iOS one is so well designed to run perfectly on the phone with no issues etc. This freedom to do what I want is such a red herring as the vast majority of users will never do anything and a lot of those who do will inevitably end up causing some issues with the phone.

Also this talk about the oneplus being 100 times better than the iPhone is pure delusion, worse than any iPhone fanboy.

Not sure if you're serious. Why would you want to install something different to what apple provide, because no one can possibly make a better app than apple!

Can you use imessage to message someone on an android phone?

Venom

Kyng Billions Six-pack wrote: »

Who uses desktops anymore though other than hardcore gamers? It's all about laptops for the vast majority as they are just way more flexible, are just as good as a desktop in most instance and can act as one with a screen and keyboard (my work place for instance as stopped providing desktops it's all laptos and docks now). To buy a windows laptop equivalent of a particular MacBook Pro say you will pay as much or possibly more. My work laptop is a HP elite book brand new cost 1k and that's with works rate so would be more to the lay person, doesn't even have an ssd. My MacBook was about 1200 and it absolutely destroys the HP in every way.

What utter Utter bullsiht. Using the below site as a reference...

http://www.pcworld.ie/category/windows-laptops/396.0.0

All the Windows laptops on that particular page cost under €1000, nealy all have 1TB SSD's, are as thin as a macbook, offer better specs and have these handy little things called "ports" you can connect other things you own to such as "Ear phones"!

The funny thing is on that very same site the cheapest Macbook costs €979 with only a 128GB SSD!

Flaccus

Venom wrote: »

What utter Utter bullsiht. Using the below site as a reference...

http://www.pcworld.ie/category/windows-laptops/396.0.0

All the Windows laptops on that particular page cost under €1000, nealy all have 1TB SSD's, are as thin as a macbook, offer better specs and have these handy little things called "ports" you can connect other things you own to such as "Ear phones"!

The funny thing is on that very same site the cheapest Macbook costs €979 with only a 128GB SSD!

I must be blind. Only saw systems on that page with 1tb HDDs not SSD's. While windows laptops are cheaper they don't necessarily have better specs then many recent macs. The bottleneck is generally disk i/o and macs have been offering nvme pcie ssds with up to 2.5TB/s sequential read access and massive IOPS. Have not seen this on many windows machines except for the slower embedded M2 ssds. GPUs is another thing. Admittedly Macs are not gaming rigs.

Incidentally one thing people forget is the macs are all aluminium construction with excellent fit and finish. Windows laptops pale by comparison unless you shell out for a Dell XPS or the like. But then you are paying mac prices.

Grayson

Kyng Billions Six-pack wrote: »

Who uses desktops anymore though other than hardcore gamers? It's all about laptops for the vast majority as they are just way more flexible, are just as good as a desktop in most instance and can act as one with a screen and keyboard (my work place for instance as stopped providing desktops it's all laptos and docks now). To buy a windows laptop equivalent of a particular MacBook Pro say you will pay as much or possibly more. My work laptop is a HP elite book brand new cost 1k and that's with works rate so would be more to the lay person, doesn't even have an ssd. My MacBook was about 1200 and it absolutely destroys the HP in every way.

I agree with desktops but the apple laptops are overpriced. For the price of any apple you can always get a windows laptop that is it's equal or better. The one thing apple has for it is that so many dev's use them that there's a plethora of tools available.

Editing to add, I just checked the apple site. The macbook pro (the only 15 inch ones the have) starts at €2,299.00. That's with 16gb ram and a 256 GB ssd. That's the starting price. It's the cheapest. I'll admit it's a nice machine but it's well overpriced.

CabanSail

My iPhone 5C has just come out of contract. Was considering a new contract but there is no phone which will suit me, so I am keeping the older phone as it does fine. My wife uses my old iPhone 4S and if she did not need that I would still use it. It was just cheaper at the time to buy out the contract than to buy a phone.

Have to hope these two phones keep working for a while as we do not have a choice for an update and no desire to lay out loads of dosh to do so.

We have to stay with Apple as nearly the whole family keep in touch via Facetime & iMessage. Not that I would like to change anyway. Having tried to do things on my parents Hemorrhoid phone and being lent one to use recently I found I really hated it. Where I live we have low coverage so require phones which have better sensitivity (Blue Tick Phones in Australia). That rules out the new iPhone 5SE as it does not comply. The only 5 that did was the 5C which is now discontinued. The iPhone 6S does have a blue tick but it's just too big. I do not want to carry a handbag.

As said earlier the main difference that keeps being talked about is the cameras. Other than Facetime I do not use it. It is amazing what they can do with such a small sensor but really if I am going to take photographs I will use a proper camera.

Permabear

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Venom

Flaccus wrote: »

I must be blind. Only saw systems on that page with 1tb HDDs not SSD's. While windows laptops are cheaper they don't necessarily have better specs then many recent macs. The bottleneck is generally disk i/o and macs have been offering nvme pcie ssds with up to 2.5TB/s sequential read access and massive IOPS. Have not seen this on many windows machines except for the slower embedded M2 ssds. GPUs is another thing. Admittedly Macs are not gaming rigs.

Incidentally one thing people forget is the macs are all aluminium construction with excellent fit and finish. Windows laptops pale by comparison unless you shell out for a Dell XPS or the like. But then you are paying mac prices.

Last 5 on the list all have 128-256GB SSD's. Some of the Asus and Acer laptops have Mac like construction. You have to bump up to a Macbook Pro for M2 NVME SSD's which tends to up the price closer to the 2K mark.

That site was just off the top of my head tho and better laptops and prices can be gotten online if you wish to spend more than 30 seconds using Google

Canis Lupus

Kyng Billions Six-pack wrote: »

Who uses desktops anymore though other than hardcore gamers? It's all about laptops for the vast majority as they are just way more flexible, are just as good as a desktop in most instance and can act as one with a screen and keyboard (my work place for instance as stopped providing desktops it's all laptos and docks now). To buy a windows laptop equivalent of a particular MacBook Pro say you will pay as much or possibly more. My work laptop is a HP elite book brand new cost 1k and that's with works rate so would be more to the lay person, doesn't even have an ssd. My MacBook was about 1200 and it absolutely destroys the HP in every way.

That's very wrong as has been pointed out. My GF had a macbook and when it finally kicked the bucket I looked into getting her a new one until I realised I could get a windows laptop with double the specs for the same price. It's literally absurd how much money apple charges for stuff.

eeguy

Flaccus wrote: »

Incidentally one thing people forget is the macs are all aluminium construction with excellent fit and finish.

Myth busted right here. All style no substance.

https://youtu.be/t7XSckjRPo0

Canis Lupus

Canis Lupus wrote: »

That's very wrong as has been pointed out. My GF had a macbook and when it finally kicked the bucket I looked into getting her a new one until I realised I could get a windows laptop with double the specs for the same price. It's literally absurd how much money apple charges for stuff.

Double the specs? Doubt that very much. In any case macs run much faster than equivalent windows laptops. So even a better on paper windows laptop will most likely be slower in the real world, windows being one of the main reasons.

Also most laptops look like crap compared to macbooks, not a vital aspect but if I'm forking out big money I want it to look bloody good too and nothing is even on the same plant as macbooks with looks, build quality, feel etc.

blade1

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

ASSEMBLE ANDROIDIANS!

Bring spare batteries!!:pac:

IamMetaldave

Kyng Billions Six-pack wrote: »

Double the specs? Doubt that very much. In any case macs run much faster than equivalent windows laptops. So even a better on paper windows laptop will most likely be slower in the real world, windows being one of the main reasons.

Also most laptops look like crap compared to macbooks, not a vital aspect but if I'm forking out big money I want it to look bloody good too and nothing is even on the same plant as macbooks with looks, build quality, feel etc.

I used to think I was a fan of Apple until I read your posts man!

Flaccus

eeguy wrote: »

Flaccus wrote: »

Incidentally one thing people forget is the macs are all aluminium construction with excellent fit and finish.

Myth busted right here. All style no substance.

https://youtu.be/t7XSckjRPo0

I'm confused. I never mentioned about Macs being more durable than other PC's. I said they had excellent fit and finish which they do. That link just proves plastic is more durable than aluminium which stands to reason as aluminium is a soft alloy. I have had lots of macs and windows laptops and never had an issue with either build quality wise but I still think the finish on the mac is nicer.

I agree that the Macs are overpriced spec wise but if you want something of equal or better spec in the Windows world AND the fit and finish of a metal design and not plastic then you are paying alot. Maybe not mac prices but well over 1k for something like a Dell XPS.

Permabear

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Grayson

Flaccus wrote: »

I'm confused. I never mentioned about Macs being more durable than other PC's. I said they had excellent fit and finish which they do. That link just proves plastic is more durable than aluminium which stands to reason as aluminium is a soft alloy. I have had lots of macs and windows laptops and never had an issue with either build quality wise but I still think the finish on the mac is nicer.

I agree that the Macs are overpriced spec wise but if you want something of equal or better spec in the Windows world AND the fit and finish of a metal design and not plastic then you are paying alot. Maybe not mac prices but well over 1k for something like a Dell XPS.

Thats still half the price of the mac . You used to be able to buy a license for mac OS and install it on a windows machine. So you get the same hardware for cheaper with the OS.

frozenfrozen

Forget mac vs pc lets talk about smartphone prices

I'm conflicted now.

I'm not an apple fanboy.

But I have a 4 year old iphone 5. It's falling apart all of a sudden. I really wanted a samsung note 7. They're having firey battery issues. People who paid big money waiting weeks to hear anything. Awful treatment from samsung & networks.

I got locked out of my icloud account yesterday, called apple today and had a really nice Irish girl talk me through the process of unblocking it. Phone is 4 years old. Didn't ask for any of that info, just helped me. Was waiting for about 30 seconds to get connected and was sorted within minutes.

I could go on apple.ie and order an iphone right now, and have a brilliant experience.

I still for some reason want the note phone.. samsung shop doesn't seem to do irish orders? Carphone warehouse doesn't have the phone, or even S7 phones it seems? three have less info.

Held someone's cheapy 5.5" phone the other day in college. Can't remember the brand but cheap and cheerful.. felt cheap and not cheerful.

I've seen people go through a nexus phone and oneplus and now onto an iphone... with multiple people.


People who snapchat me from android phones send little blurry VGA style videos and generally get shafted with there not being an android equivalent app for months after apple.


God help anyone with an android phone a few years old for getting updates.

The week after one of my lecturers showed me her note 4.. which got me interested in the note 7... an update killed it.. MMC error..


What do? I don't really want an iphone but it's cheaper to buy an iphone and keep it for 4 years again rather than buying 4 200 euro phones that I'm never happy with or worse just break.

This seems like a better place than any to ask at the moment since there's both iphone nuts and android nuts all fighting it out

I wanted the note to be able to write and sign and just generally do a bit more than just 'iphone' stuff. But it just seems as if samsung are ***** and you're paying just as much as apple without getting the customer experience or the highly polished and maintained OS.

The cheaper phones seem to fall to bits. And the middle of the road priced phones difference really works out to be nothing after 4 years.

Not interested in the 'customisation' of android, all it really amounts to is people changing their font to some illegible script or having some stupid superman theme throughout their phone. Same reason I can't be arsed with jailbreaking an iphone. I'm sure it's interesting if you're 11 years old and have got sick of rocketdock on your PC and a windows longhorn theme.

So what should I get? Dependable same as before iphone or a potentially exploady note that will leave me up **** creek if anything ever goes wrong with it. Or else some oddball suggestion someone could give me like a oneplus something or xaoimimimimimi 121345 if they can please prove won't end up needing to be replaced within a year..

Sorry for the big post but at the same time isn't it a nice change from a ****ing MAC vs PC debate in current year

pilly

sugarman wrote: »

Except it doesnt really. It uses the same SMD Flash memory as a USB key. A 128GB key can be got for €20 these days, you bet it costs only a fraction of that.




What are you talking about? Its the higest benchmarked phone of 2016, beats the Samsung S7, LG G5, HTC 10 & iPhone 7 hands down performance wise.

Where do you buy the One Plus?

OldMrBrennan83

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frozenfrozen

frozenfrozen wrote: »

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Not interested in the 'customisation' of android, all it really amounts to is people changing their font to some illegible script or having some stupid superman theme throughout their phone. Same reason I can't be arsed with jailbreaking an iphone. I'm sure it's interesting if you're 11 years old and have got sick of rocketdock on your PC and a windows longhorn theme.

So what should I get? Dependable same as before iphone or a potentially exploady note that will leave me up **** creek if anything ever goes wrong with it. Or else some oddball suggestion someone could give me like a oneplus something or xaoimimimimimi 121345 if they can please prove won't end up needing to be replaced within a year..
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Customization is much more than that. I have gestures to launch my favourite apps, homescreen set up how I like it (not a grid of icons). I even have a custom ROM, so a tonne of extra customisations.

In any case....

If you spend on the top tier Android devices (HTC 10/Samsung S7/Note 7/LG G5) chances are you won't be disappointed. Same goes for one of the latest iPhones. Same goes for the OnePlus 3. In reality, there's a tonne of decent phones out there, whatever your budget. Personally, I'd stick to phones you can buy in the EU that have a warranty.

I'm going to get the Note 7 when things die down with it. I have no concerns about any issues it may have, it will have a 2 year warranty in any case. There really isn't any device that matches it for features (and I'm an HTC fanboy).

pilly

frozenfrozen wrote: »

Forget mac vs pc lets talk about smartphone prices

I'm conflicted now.

I'm not an apple fanboy.

But I have a 4 year old iphone 5. It's falling apart all of a sudden. I really wanted a samsung note 7. They're having firey battery issues. People who paid big money waiting weeks to hear anything. Awful treatment from samsung & networks.

I got locked out of my icloud account yesterday, called apple today and had a really nice Irish girl talk me through the process of unblocking it. Phone is 4 years old. Didn't ask for any of that info, just helped me. Was waiting for about 30 seconds to get connected and was sorted within minutes.

I could go on apple.ie and order an iphone right now, and have a brilliant experience.

I still for some reason want the note phone.. samsung shop doesn't seem to do irish orders? Carphone warehouse doesn't have the phone, or even S7 phones it seems? three have less info.

Held someone's cheapy 5.5" phone the other day in college. Can't remember the brand but cheap and cheerful.. felt cheap and not cheerful.

I've seen people go through a nexus phone and oneplus and now onto an iphone... with multiple people.


People who snapchat me from android phones send little blurry VGA style videos and generally get shafted with there not being an android equivalent app for months after apple.


God help anyone with an android phone a few years old for getting updates.

The week after one of my lecturers showed me her note 4.. which got me interested in the note 7... an update killed it.. MMC error..


What do? I don't really want an iphone but it's cheaper to buy an iphone and keep it for 4 years again rather than buying 4 200 euro phones that I'm never happy with or worse just break.

This seems like a better place than any to ask at the moment since there's both iphone nuts and android nuts all fighting it out

I wanted the note to be able to write and sign and just generally do a bit more than just 'iphone' stuff. But it just seems as if samsung are ***** and you're paying just as much as apple without getting the customer experience or the highly polished and maintained OS.

The cheaper phones seem to fall to bits. And the middle of the road priced phones difference really works out to be nothing after 4 years.

Not interested in the 'customisation' of android, all it really amounts to is people changing their font to some illegible script or having some stupid superman theme throughout their phone. Same reason I can't be arsed with jailbreaking an iphone. I'm sure it's interesting if you're 11 years old and have got sick of rocketdock on your PC and a windows longhorn theme.

So what should I get? Dependable same as before iphone or a potentially exploady note that will leave me up **** creek if anything ever goes wrong with it. Or else some oddball suggestion someone could give me like a oneplus something or xaoimimimimimi 121345 if they can please prove won't end up needing to be replaced within a year..

Sorry for the big post but at the same time isn't it a nice change from a ****ing MAC vs PC debate in current year

From the point of view of being a huge Samsung fan I've had one now for over 2 years, been bashed, thrown, dropped and kicked and still works perfectly. From using other peoples iphones I just find Samsung is quicker and lighter for everything.

My previous Samsung is still going as well, gave it to my daughter, that's 4 years old. I think with all newer products (including iphones) there are glitches and ones that will blow up but that's the risk you take when you want the very latest. Why not go for one that's tried and tested? Like S6?

IamMetaldave

From reading your post you seem to want an Apple device with the exception of the Note 7 (which you can't get at the moment).

I'm a total Apple fan, but would never say the likes of Samsung/ HTC/ OnePlus make bad phones, their hardware is great, it's just the Android OS I don't like.

At the end of the day, you know what you like and that's the only person who should decide what phone you get! Not a bunch of dudes the go to war with each other over phones....

OldMrBrennan83

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ablelocks

frozenfrozen wrote: »

Or else some oddball suggestion someone could give me like a

windows phone...950 for €299 or 650 for 129 (10% discount if you're a student)

most of the androiphone crowd here will take the piss but it's a decent option...

OldMrBrennan83

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Capt'n Midnight

Kyng Billions Six-pack wrote: »

You have never used a MacBook if you think a touch pad is a pain. A lot of mac users are now buying external touch pads rather than a mouse for when they are docked as it's just a pleasure to use with the gestures and responsivness etc.

Of course us PC users can right click etc.


BTW
If you have an android phone and an OTG adaptor you can plug a USB mouse into your phone, cursor n' all.

Pac1Man

frozenfrozen wrote: »

Forget mac vs pc lets talk about smartphone prices

I'm conflicted now.

I'm not an apple fanboy....

.... Sorry for the big post but at the same time isn't it a nice change from a ****ing MAC vs PC debate in current year

It sounds like you're trying to convince yourself to buy an iPhone and you want the Internet people to agree with you, so just buy what makes you happy. You don't need other people's approval!

No need to come up with BS reasons not to choose the other product though. That will just cloud your own judgement.

frozenfrozen

Basil3 wrote: »

Customization is much more than that. I have gestures to launch my favourite apps, homescreen set up how I like it (not a grid of icons). I even have a custom ROM, so a tonne of extra customisations.

In any case....

If you spend on the top tier Android devices (HTC 10/Samsung S7/Note 7/LG G5) chances are you won't be disappointed. Same goes for one of the latest iPhones. Same goes for the OnePlus 3. In reality, there's a tonne of decent phones out there, whatever your budget. Personally, I'd stick to phones you can buy in the EU that have a warranty.

I'm going to get the Note 7 when things die down with it. I have no concerns about any issues it may have, it will have a 2 year warranty in any case. There really isn't any device that matches it for features (and I'm an HTC fanboy).

That's the way I feel about the note 7, with all the many android options really the only one that for me ticks all the same ones as iphones and more is the note.

I was being dicky with the customisation stuff but most of the time when I hear that phrase from people they pull out a phone that has a font like a boarder counties registration plate and a pokeball as the little app launcher icon. I'm sure there is some actual benefit for people like yourself who do it right.

pilly wrote: »

From the point of view of being a huge Samsung fan I've had one now for over 2 years, been bashed, thrown, dropped and kicked and still works perfectly. From using other peoples iphones I just find Samsung is quicker and lighter for everything.

My previous Samsung is still going as well, gave it to my daughter, that's 4 years old. I think with all newer products (including iphones) there are glitches and ones that will blow up but that's the risk you take when you want the very latest. Why not go for one that's tried and tested? Like S6?

I suppose it is just down to me having very limited experience and I've been lucky with iphones and come across lots of people unlucky with samsung phones (and generally android phones)

IamMetaldave wrote: »

From reading your post you seem to want an Apple device with the exception of the Note 7 (which you can't get at the moment).

I'm a total Apple fan, but would never say the likes of Samsung/ HTC/ OnePlus make bad phones, their hardware is great, it's just the Android OS I don't like.

At the end of the day, you know what you like and that's the only person who should decide what phone you get! Not a bunch of dudes the go to war with each other over phones....

I've played around with a few one plus phones but I don't know anyone who has kept theirs anything more than 6 months. To be fair I'm sure they probably mistreated them and broke them.

I think I'm going to have to get the note 7 just to get it out of my system, or at least hold one in a shop when somewhere eventually has one to display.

Pac1Man wrote: »

It sounds like you're trying to convince yourself to buy an iPhone and you want the Internet people to agree with you, so just buy what makes you happy. You don't need other people's approval!

No need to come up with BS reasons not to choose the other product though. That will just cloud your own judgement.

No I don't need a psychiatrist thank you very much! I'm not looking for approval I'm looking for advice. I want the note 7, but owners have been treated like **** and you can't just buy one, even when they go back on sale I'll have to figure out how to get an unlocked unmolested one.

On the topic of smartphone prices I was just saying it seems like there's no point in me even considering cheaper phones as nobody I know ever keeps them around for any amount of time compared to expensive phones. I like buying expensive and keeping it for years.

Permabear

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srsly78

Just buy a phone without any rubbish bloatware. Avoid Samsung, get a Nexus/Pixel device. New one is out soon.

OldMrBrennan83

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Permabear

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srsly78

I actually have an old nexus 4 still, it still gets small updates - is on 5.1.1, but won't get 6.0+ I think. However, I got it for e300 new few years ago - the newer versions are gonna be e600/e700

Capt'n Midnight

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Of course us PC users can right click etc.

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Multiple desktops (not possible on windows) on OSX and the ability to switch between desktops with one swipe to get to mission control where you can view all your open applications properly unlike windows where they are tiny in the bottom of the screen are two example of how mac and osx piss over windows.

So many times I get frustrated if using my work laptop and I try to use a gesture to quickly switch between screens and oh, cant do that have to move the cursor and click etc etc. Even with a brand new work laptop I still use my personal macbook for a lot of my work related tasks and have it with me all the time basically just leaving my work laptop permanently docked and treat it like a desktop.

srsly78

Oh ffs... you couldn't figure out how to enable large icons? Alt-tab is too complicated?

srsly78

srsly78 wrote: »

Oh ffs... you couldn't figure out how to enable large icons? Alt-tab is too complicated?

His work PC runs XP....

OldMrBrennan83

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kjl

frozenfrozen wrote: »

Forget mac vs pc lets talk about smartphone prices

I'm conflicted now.

I'm not an apple fanboy.

But I have a 4 year old iphone 5. It's falling apart all of a sudden. I really wanted a samsung note 7. They're having firey battery issues. People who paid big money waiting weeks to hear anything. Awful treatment from samsung & networks.

I got locked out of my icloud account yesterday, called apple today and had a really nice Irish girl talk me through the process of unblocking it. Phone is 4 years old. Didn't ask for any of that info, just helped me. Was waiting for about 30 seconds to get connected and was sorted within minutes.

I could go on apple.ie and order an iphone right now, and have a brilliant experience.

I still for some reason want the note phone.. samsung shop doesn't seem to do irish orders? Carphone warehouse doesn't have the phone, or even S7 phones it seems? three have less info.

Held someone's cheapy 5.5" phone the other day in college. Can't remember the brand but cheap and cheerful.. felt cheap and not cheerful.

I've seen people go through a nexus phone and oneplus and now onto an iphone... with multiple people.


People who snapchat me from android phones send little blurry VGA style videos and generally get shafted with there not being an android equivalent app for months after apple.


God help anyone with an android phone a few years old for getting updates.

The week after one of my lecturers showed me her note 4.. which got me interested in the note 7... an update killed it.. MMC error..


What do? I don't really want an iphone but it's cheaper to buy an iphone and keep it for 4 years again rather than buying 4 200 euro phones that I'm never happy with or worse just break.

This seems like a better place than any to ask at the moment since there's both iphone nuts and android nuts all fighting it out

I wanted the note to be able to write and sign and just generally do a bit more than just 'iphone' stuff. But it just seems as if samsung are ***** and you're paying just as much as apple without getting the customer experience or the highly polished and maintained OS.

The cheaper phones seem to fall to bits. And the middle of the road priced phones difference really works out to be nothing after 4 years.

Not interested in the 'customisation' of android, all it really amounts to is people changing their font to some illegible script or having some stupid superman theme throughout their phone. Same reason I can't be arsed with jailbreaking an iphone. I'm sure it's interesting if you're 11 years old and have got sick of rocketdock on your PC and a windows longhorn theme.

So what should I get? Dependable same as before iphone or a potentially exploady note that will leave me up **** creek if anything ever goes wrong with it. Or else some oddball suggestion someone could give me like a oneplus something or xaoimimimimimi 121345 if they can please prove won't end up needing to be replaced within a year..

Sorry for the big post but at the same time isn't it a nice change from a ****ing MAC vs PC debate in current year

iPhone 7's are exploding too

http://bgr.com/2016/09/29/iphone-7-exploding-fire-photos/
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/180162/20160929/look-did-this-iphone-7-explode-too.htm

kjl

Kyng Billions Six-pack wrote: »

Multiple desktops (not possible on windows) on OSX and the ability to switch between desktops with one swipe to get to mission control where you can view all your open applications properly unlike windows where they are tiny in the bottom of the screen are two example of how mac and osx piss over windows.

So many times I get frustrated if using my work laptop and I try to use a gesture to quickly switch between screens and oh, cant do that have to move the cursor and click etc etc. Even with a brand new work laptop I still use my personal macbook for a lot of my work related tasks and have it with me all the time basically just leaving my work laptop permanently docked and treat it like a desktop.

You can have multiple desktop on windows too; I think it's default in Win 10
Alt + Tab or Windows Key and Tab; just because you don't know how to use a feature that's been around for almost 10 years does not mean you crapbook is better.

OSX is a terrible operating system; The entire base of it is a copy of Unix with a pretty poor desktop skin on top.

kjl

Patww79 wrote: »

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Please name one piece of software that doesn't run on Windows 10.You know you can set the compatibility mode right?

Also; if you throw some crazy legacy system that used VB Coms or something then the issue is with your company; XP is 16 years old now and not supported anymore. In work we bought a company that had software running with a bunch of VB Coms and like Direct X 7; We scrapped everything except the DB as we couldn't sell the platform due to every single company using Windows 7.

OldMrBrennan83

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RasTa

Never get a Windows phone.

I've gone Chinese now with phone purchases, they know what they are doing.

Still on this over a year later, think it only cost €120 at the time

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/review/android-smartphones/umi-emax-review-blistering-performance-at-unrivalled-price-video-uk-3616303/

Grayson

kjl wrote: »

You can have multiple desktop on windows too; I think it's default in Win 10
Alt + Tab or Windows Key and Tab; just because you don't know how to use a feature that's been around for almost 10 years does not mean you crapbook is better.

OSX is a terrible operating system; The entire base of it is a copy of Unix with a pretty poor desktop skin on top.

Yep. There's multiple desktops in windows 10

http://www.windowscentral.com/how-use-multiple-desktops-windows-10

kjl

kjl wrote: »

You can have multiple desktop on windows too; I think it's default in Win 10
Alt + Tab or Windows Key and Tab; just because you don't know how to use a feature that's been around for almost 10 years does not mean you crapbook is better.

OSX is a terrible operating system; The entire base of it is a copy of Unix with a pretty poor desktop skin on top.

Of course I know alt tab but it's a **** way to use a laptop compared to gestures on a MacBook.

You really are showing your total lack of knowledge by claiming OS X is a terrible operating system. OS X and Linux are the choice of people who actually know a thing or two about computers. Any software dev I know for for instance wouldn't even look at a windows machine. Same for many in my area of work.

Grayson wrote: »

Yep. There's multiple desktops in windows 10

http://www.windowscentral.com/how-use-multiple-desktops-windows-10

It's never been available in windows before win10 though and I've never used either win 8 or 10 as my only reason for using windows is work and they have only recently upgraded to win7 (in the last year or so). Both win 8 and 10 are supposed to be horrible pieces of software too by most accounts I've read.

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What software won't run on mac? The only one I've come across is Microsoft project that isn't available on mac but I can just run windows in a VM on the mac when I need to use it, problem solved.

Grayson

Kyng Billions Six-pack wrote: »

Of course I know alt tab but it's a **** way to use a laptop compared to gestures on a MacBook.

You really are showing your total lack of knowledge by claiming OS X is a terrible operating system. OS X and Linux are the choice of people who actually know a thing or two about computers. Any software dev I know for for instance wouldn't even look at a windows machine. Same for many in my area of work.



It's never been available in windows before win10 though and I've never used either win 8 or 10 as my only reason for using windows is work and they have only recently upgraded to win7 (in the last year or so). Both win 8 and 10 are supposed to be horrible pieces of software too by most accounts I've read.

FYI, I work in Dev Ops and I like windows. It is a bit harder to get some tools for it. And if you work in NetSec then you need either linux or OSX because it's next to impossible to get all the tools you need for it.

btw, windows released a separate tool for windows XP, 7, & 8 to enable multiple desktops.

kjl

Kyng Billions Six-pack wrote: »

Of course I know alt tab but it's a **** way to use a laptop compared to gestures on a MacBook.

You really are showing your total lack of knowledge by claiming OS X is a terrible operating system. OS X and Linux are the choice of people who actually know a thing or two about computers. Any software dev I know for for instance wouldn't even look at a windows machine. Same for many in my area of work.

Hi there, nice to meet you; I am a software developer for Oracle. So I do know a thing or two thanks very much.

Kilboor

Grey Market is your friend mate. Aka China

Riesen_Meal

OSX Mac thingy for music and creativity

Windows for Gaming and err spreadsheets

Nexus for everything else

JamBur

kjl wrote: »

Hi there, nice to meet you; I am a software developer for Oracle. So I do know a thing or two thanks very much.

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JamBur wrote: »

my digital willy is bigger then your digital willy

I'm upgrading from 5 to 5.5".

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kjl wrote: »

You can have multiple desktop on windows too; I think it's default in Win 10
Alt + Tab or Windows Key and Tab; just because you don't know how to use a feature that's been around for almost 10 years does not mean you crapbook is better.

OSX is a terrible operating system; The entire base of it is a copy of Unix with a pretty poor desktop skin on top.

It's not a copy of UNIX. It's UNIX (as in being posix compliant). The desktop "skin" is the best out of all UNIX or derivatives.