Werewolf III - Winter Is Coming - Complete - Village victory

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*deep breath* It's just a game, It's just a game.

In response to Uriel.

I would like to reiterate that Maximus Alexander and MicksJaguar offered themselves to be lynched / raced.

Deleted User wrote: »

The above deserves a lynch in itself but I'll cop on and play properly now if ye do lynch me its all my own fault and i apologise for wasting a lynch

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Here lads race me and Mick, I can't deal with this all game.

While the first nights lynch is usually crappy for the lynched villager, it is easier to lynch players who asked to be lynched, they wanted out of the game.

I took notice of it and made a post.

Their response was interesting:

Immediately went on the defensive and claimed that it was a ploy to bait out a baddie. I can admit this looks suspicious, but now watch what happens when things go awry later...

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

--Not posting the full thing to keep this post size small--

I think it couldn't be more obvious that I'm a villager

So you're a villager that magically knows MicksJaguar is also a villager and you're working together to bait? Then later on claim that voting for MicksJaguar is a bad idea? Which is it? Villager or Faction?

Maximus Alexander and MicksJaguar continuously used a debunked theory that GoT lore is going to be part of the tasks when the GM has said multiple times it wont be. He also uses an extremely weak case that the taskee can Google or it will be fed via the GM. I made a point that this is extremely unfair for the taskee, it's just too easy to spot.

He uses this strat to try turn the vote towards MrsFlushdraw. Pretty much siding with MicksJaguar.

Deleted User wrote: »

The posts 9 mins apart

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

MrsFD made two posts in a row earlier that each mentioned the name of two places in GoT. Looked very tasky.

Just before the vote, he claims that voting for MicksJaguar is a mistake, again, how does he know this?

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Mick is a horrible choice.

His response when called out on this is that it's too dangerous to reveal?
Sorry buddy, you two are already revealed!

The real question is if they are Lannister, Baratheon or Stark. 66% chance that they're either Lannister or Baratheon and only 33% that they're the Starks.

I truly hope you're not the Starks because you've pulled a spectacular Ned Stark on us!

Finger of suspicion: Maximus Alexander and MicksJaguar

See you in the dead room Maximus Alexander...

WerewolfGM

CLARIFICATION AND CORRECTION

SORRY, I FORGOT TO ADD THE SHERIFF'S VOTE TO THE LYNCH RESULT, THAT'S BEEN CORRECTED IN THE ORIGINAL POST NOW. HE ALSO VOTED FOR YOSSER

ALSO, THE STORIES AT LYNCH AND SLAUGHTER TIME HAVE NO RELEVNCE TO THE GAME, THEIR ONLY FOR FUN AND NOTHING OTHER THAN WHO WAS KILLED AND IN THE CASE OF THE MORNING KILLS, BY WHOM SHOULD BE REGARDED AS PART OF THE GAME.


ALSO, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD AS MANY GoT MEME'S AND STUFF, SHOUDL ADD TO THE FUN!!

THANKS!
Jayop

Maximus Alexander

Clare Whining College wrote: »

*deep breath* It's just a game, It's just a game.

In response to Uriel.

I would like to reiterate that Maximus Alexander and MicksJaguar offered themselves to be lynched / raced.





While the first nights lynch is usually crappy for the lynched villager, it is easier to lynch players who asked to be lynched, they wanted out of the game.

I took notice of it and made a post.

Their response was interesting:

Immediately went on the defensive and claimed that it was a ploy to bait out a baddie. I can admit this looks suspicious, but now watch what happens when things go awry later...



So you're a villager that magically knows MicksJaguar is also a villager and you're working together to bait? Then later on claim that voting for MicksJaguar is a bad idea? Which is it? Villager or Faction?

Maximus Alexander and MicksJaguar continuously used a debunked theory that GoT lore is going to be part of the tasks when the GM has said multiple times it wont be. He also uses an extremely weak case that the taskee can Google or it will be fed via the GM. I made a point that this is extremely unfair for the taskee, it's just too easy to spot.

He uses this strat to try turn the vote towards MrsFlushdraw. Pretty much siding with MicksJaguar.



Just before the vote, he claims that voting for MicksJaguar is a mistake, again, how does he know this?


His response when called out on this is that it's too dangerous to reveal?
Sorry buddy, you two are already revealed!

The real question is if they are Lannister, Baratheon or Stark. 66% chance that they're either Lannister or Baratheon and only 33% that they're the Starks.

I truly hope you're not the Starks because you've pulled a spectacular Ned Stark on us!

Finger of suspicion: Maximus Alexander and MicksJaguar

See you in the dead room Maximus Alexander...

Yeah, we need to lynch this dude.

Do peeked villagers get added to the Stark room?

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WerewolfGM wrote: »

ALSO, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD AS MANY GoT MEME'S AND STUFF, SHOUDL ADD TO THE FUN!!

THANKS!
Jayop

This is who I identify myself as!



We all know how it ended up for him

crosstownk

Clare Whining College wrote: »

While the first nights lynch is usually crappy for the lynched villager,

How do you know this?

Triceratops Ballet

Night everyone!, may the mother watch over your slumber and keep all safe until morning

andy125

I bring to the table for discussion....


bodyguard - should do their own thing and pick wisely, they should have a good chance to protect someone with 3 people being killed tonight - look at who has been slaughtered already and judge who you think might be next- bodyguard is very important role here as we will need them to protect seer & priest when they come forward

Seer - should do their own thing also and choose their peeks wisely, how many baddies they peek before coming out should be up for discussion

regarding the priest training somebody, be careful who you pick as you could train a bad guy, im not sure when you should train somebody maybe wait for tonights killings to be over, this should be up for discussion also

Nopeare

I feel a bit like him after the changing my mind so much today

Maximus Alexander

andy125 wrote: »

regarding the priest training somebody, be careful who you pick as you could train a bad guy, im not sure when you should train somebody maybe wait for tonights killings to be over, this should be up for discussion also

On this part, if we lose three villagers overnight then the priest will be even more likely to accidentally train a baddie tomorrow. That's worth considering; could be better to take a punt now if there's someone they fancy.

Shane.C

Congrats Valeyard, have fun! Apologies, for today, work has me ruined and I didn't get a chance to properly follow what was going on. Hence my vote for Shatterproof, which looks embarrassing enough! I just remembered his three posts and potential task post so didn't see the yos0 v Mick race.

A Neurotic

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

On this part, if we lose three villagers overnight then the priest will be even more likely to accidentally train a baddie tomorrow. That's worth considering; could be better to take a punt now if there's someone they fancy.

Not necessarily: each faction might kill a rival baddie, and not a villager.

Maximus Alexander

A Neurotic wrote: »

Not necessarily: each faction might kill a rival baddie, and not a villager.

That's true, though highly unlikely.

Stoogie

Stoogie wrote: »

Ok

Stoogie wrote: »

Ok

Stoogie wrote: »

Ok

Stoogie wrote: »

Ok

Stoogie wrote: »

Ok

This is wierd same post 5 times and each time its in response to Max not saying Max is involved but its wierd from Stoogie

Shane.C

@noreape, I was out last night and dying with the flu today so with regard to the Times being off I put my hand up, just a mistake. I corrected it cause I was sure it was a task and wanted people to see in case they didn't.

Nopeare

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

On this part, if we lose three villagers overnight then the priest will be even more likely to accidentally train a baddie tomorrow. That's worth considering; could be better to take a punt now if there's someone they fancy.

Assuming both killed so far are innocent

3 lannisters + 3 baratheons + 1 knight king = 7 baddies remaining

If they choose now they've a 13% (3/23) that who they appoint will be dead tomorrow but also a 30% (7/23) chance they're bad

worst case all villagers/starks killed tonight 35% (7/20) to appoint wrong

Lets hope one of the 3 is bad then it would be back around 30% (6/20)

So I think leave it till after 10 tomorrow then let them decide, then they will have a further understanding of players as well one day is hard enough to decide a lynch never mind appointing an apprentice

This game seems very difficult for the good guys. Villagers have no info to work on. What if the seer gets randomly killed before revealing anything. Pot luck from there.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

This game seems very difficult for the good guys. Villagers have no info to work on. What if the seer gets randomly killed before revealing anything. Pot luck from there.

The seer is in a room with the 2 other straks so even if he/she is killed they have the info he/she has

mahamageehad

andy125 wrote: »

I bring to the table for discussion....


bodyguard - should do their own thing and pick wisely, they should have a good chance to protect someone with 3 people being killed tonight - look at who has been slaughtered already and judge who you think might be next- bodyguard is very important role here as we will need them to protect seer & priest when they come forward

Seer - should do their own thing also and choose their peeks wisely, how many baddies they peek before coming out should be up for discussion

regarding the priest training somebody, be careful who you pick as you could train a bad guy, im not sure when you should train somebody maybe wait for tonights killings to be over, this should be up for discussion also

I'd be pretty in agreement with all of the above. Seer, bodyguard and priest should keep the heads down and get as much info as possible.

Just doing the maths - right now there are 23 players left.
Tomorrow (Tuesday) we potentially lose 4 - Lannister, Baratheon, Night King and lynch. That would leave 19 (unless bodyguard protects or Lannister/Baratheon/Night King pick same victim.)
Wednesday we stand to lose 3 more - Lannister, Baratheon and lynch. That would leave 16.
Thursday another potential 4, leaving 12.

I think it might be nice to get a role out on Wednesday maybe? Then we'd have some solid info. My preference is for the priest to come out first - if they came out on Wednesday after the morning slaughters, they would be able to tell us the identity of 8 victims. Then we could use that info, and the info from the vote reasonings I proposed earlier to start making a real strategy.

.... all of that is of course presuming that Trit or Y0sser weren't the priest or seer or bodyguard......

MrsFlushdraw

Deleted User wrote: »

The seer is in a room with the 2 other straks so even if he/she is killed they have the info he/she has

Really? didn't know that? so if Jon Snow did the task there i a potential 4 person village task team to help steer us to victory?

MrsFlushdraw

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

Really? didn't know that? so if Jon Snow did the task there i a potential 4 person village task team to help steer us to victory?

From OP

The Starks: There are three Starks, Arya, Sansa and Jon Snow who can communicate on their own message board separate from Boards.ie. They are on the village team and cannot kill, but they can work together to aid the village and attempt to steer them in the correct direction for the Lynch

MY bad bran isnt on that list sigh

A Neurotic

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

Really? didn't know that? so if Jon Snow did the task there i a potential 4 person village task team to help steer us to victory?

There's nothing about that in the OP.

mahamageehad

Deleted User wrote: »

The seer is in a room with the 2 other straks so even if he/she is killed they have the info he/she has

What? When did we learn this?

sullivlo

mahamageehad wrote: »

I'd be pretty in agreement with all of the above. Seer, bodyguard and priest should keep the heads down and get as much info as possible.

Just doing the maths - right now there are 23 players left.
Tomorrow (Tuesday) we potentially lose 4 - Lannister, Baratheon, Night King and lynch. That would leave 19 (unless bodyguard protects or Lannister/Baratheon/Night King pick same victim.)
Wednesday we stand to lose 3 more - Lannister, Baratheon and lynch. That would leave 16.
Thursday another potential 4, leaving 12.

I think it might be nice to get a role out on Wednesday maybe? Then we'd have some solid info. My preference is for the priest to come out first - if they came out on Wednesday after the morning slaughters, they would be able to tell us the identity of 8 victims. Then we could use that info, and the info from the vote reasonings I proposed earlier to start making a real strategy.

.... all of that is of course presuming that Trit or Y0sser weren't the priest or seer or bodyguard......

And three potential deaths in the village tonight.

The seer knows the Starks. They know the seer. This further complicates voting as it leaves three groups block voting without the races.

Confused.

Anyone any thoughts?

A Neurotic

A Neurotic wrote: »

There's nothing about that in the OP.

mahamageehad wrote: »

What? When did we learn this?

My bad my bad 2 many roles

Any comments on stoogie making the same post 5 times in response to 5 different max posts?

Stoogie

Deleted User wrote: »

This is wierd same post 5 times and each time its in response to Max not saying Max is involved but its wierd from Stoogie

I'm just trying to start a running joke. When someone called Maximus ales Alexander makes decisive statements people should listen. So I say :Ok:)

Nopeare

mahamageehad wrote: »

I'd be pretty in agreement with all of the above. Seer, bodyguard and priest should keep the heads down and get as much info as possible.

Just doing the maths - right now there are 23 players left.
Tomorrow (Tuesday) we potentially lose 4 - Lannister, Baratheon, Night King and lynch. That would leave 19 (unless bodyguard protects or Lannister/Baratheon/Night King pick same victim.)
Wednesday we stand to lose 3 more - Lannister, Baratheon and lynch. That would leave 16.
Thursday another potential 4, leaving 12.

I think it might be nice to get a role out on Wednesday maybe? Then we'd have some solid info. My preference is for the priest to come out first - if they came out on Wednesday after the morning slaughters, they would be able to tell us the identity of 8 victims. Then we could use that info, and the info from the vote reasonings I proposed earlier to start making a real strategy.

.... all of that is of course presuming that Trit or Y0sser weren't the priest or seer or bodyguard......

It is not a bad idea, get the priest out Wednesday protect from the lynch and the bodyguard protect them from Wednesday from the enemy. Then the seer come out after 10 on the Thursday and be protected that night. We would have a huge amount of information and if we were extremely lucky the apprentice might get through all that

mahamageehad

Deleted User wrote: »

MY bad bran isnt on that list sigh

Ah ok, simple mistake so.
The seer is actually not so powerful in this game, they should stay hidden as long as possible unless they're in danger of being lynched. If the seer goes by previous game rules the seer will have had the chance to do two peeks by now. That's not a lot. The seer will be very important to check out role claims though.

crosstownk

Nopeare wrote: »

It is not a bad idea, get the priest out Wednesday protect from the lynch and the bodyguard protect them from Wednesday from the enemy. Then the seer come out after 10 on the Thursday and be protected that night. We would have a huge amount of information and if we were extremely lucky the apprentice might get through all that

Agreed. We need to be mindful of the attrition rate and not keep roles hidden as long as would be preferable in the previous games.

Stoogie

sullivlo wrote: »

And three potential deaths in the village tonight.

The seer knows the Starks. They know the seer. This further complicates voting as it leaves three groups block voting without the races.

Confused.

Anyone any thoughts?

My reading of it is the seer is an individual role.

"Players given these roles can announce them to the group if so desired, as can any player announce anything to the group really (in The Game of Thrones lying and deception is expected and encouraged), but beware, doing so would likely make you a prime target for murder."

And that there are three teams of three Lannister, Stark and Baratheons who have rooms.
Can the GM clarify ?

Stoogie

Oh good; it's not just me that read it that way.

WerewolfGM

Stoogie wrote: »

My reading of it is the seer is an individual role.

"Players given these roles can announce them to the group if so desired, as can any player announce anything to the group really (in The Game of Thrones lying and deception is expected and encouraged), but beware, doing so would likely make you a prime target for murder."

And that there are three teams of three Lannister, Stark and Baratheons who have rooms.
Can the GM clarify ?

CORRECT

mahamageehad

Yeah, I think you're right Stoogie, I read it as three separate rooms - Lannister, Stark and Baratheon. I think they know each other but not anyone else. Seer is a stand alone role that can help the village, but seer doesn't know who the Starks are (are at least they didn't at the start but might do by now.)

Anyways, that's overly chaotic day 1 done with. I'll check in with you folks in the morning again but I'll be pretty quiet during the day again tomorrow again I'm afraid. Tough to tell if today was successful but I think we did the best we could. Littlefinger put it better than I ever could: "Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder."
Night all!

Nopeare

Just a thought for organising the race tomorrow since today went a bit chaotic

Should we get everyone to do a list of two players and their reasons for racing them? Then top 2 nominated race

or

Do we look at the low posters for the lurking/sleeping players that have roles?

Just would be good to have the race decided a minimum of an hour before the vote to allow more discussion/analysis than the panicked finger pointing tonight

WerewolfGM

COULD EVERYONE PLEASE CHECK THEIR PM'S AND ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE SPACE TO RECEIVE MESSAGES

Barney92

Nopeare wrote: »

Just a thought for organising the race tomorrow since today went a bit chaotic

Should we get everyone to do a list of two players and their reasons for racing them? Then top 2 nominated race

or

Do we look at the low posters for the lurking/sleeping players that have roles?

Just would be good to have the race decided a minimum of an hour before the vote to allow more discussion/analysis than the panicked finger pointing tonight

Yeah, I voted early in the evening has I had to head out and when I came back the race seemed to descend into various different races. So maybe we can organise it a bit better tomorrow.

Stoogie

WerewolfGM wrote: »

COULD EVERYONE PLEASE CHECK THEIR PM'S AND ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE SPACE TO RECEIVE MESSAGES

The seer or the priest has a full mailbox lol.

crosstownk

Nopeare wrote: »

Just a thought for organising the race tomorrow since today went a bit chaotic

Should we get everyone to do a list of two players and their reasons for racing them? Then top 2 nominated race

or

Do we look at the low posters for the lurking/sleeping players that have roles?

Just would be good to have the race decided a minimum of an hour before the vote to allow more discussion/analysis than the panicked finger pointing tonight

You're right - I think we need to be more organised tomorrow, no doubt about it.

As I stated earlier, it's worth looking at low posters that possibly took the easy option of voting for yosser - a sign of a lurker with a role, imo.

If we're going to have a race then let's get the runners qualified early.

WerewolfGM

Stoogie wrote: »

The seer or the priest has a full mailbox lol.

I GET PM'S FROM LOADS OF PLAYERS ASKING FOR RULE CLARIFICATIONS OR JUST BECAUSE I'M SUCH A FUN GUY TO SPEAK WITH.

Maximus Alexander

Nopeare wrote: »

Just a thought for organising the race tomorrow since today went a bit chaotic

Should we get everyone to do a list of two players and their reasons for racing them? Then top 2 nominated race

or

Do we look at the low posters for the lurking/sleeping players that have roles?

Just would be good to have the race decided a minimum of an hour before the vote to allow more discussion/analysis than the panicked finger pointing tonight

Bit worried about the tactic of going for the low posters this time around, because there are so many 'good' roles now that they're almost as likely to be roled villagers keeping the head down.

Stoogie

WerewolfGM wrote: »

I GET PM'S FROM LOADS OF PLAYERS ASKING FOR RULE CLARIFICATIONS OR JUST BECAUSE I'M SUCH A FUN GUY TO SPEAK WITH.

Ok

The_Valeyard

So, are we back to the original game, where only the priest knows who the dead were? And not the public?

ShatterProof

Yip

The_Valeyard

Well, that makes things more difficult.

Shane.C

I'm in full agreement with organising some sort of plan , it took me a good while to get through today's mess!

andy125

The_Valeyard wrote: »

So, are we back to the original game, where only the priest knows who the dead were? And not the public?

yea, makes the priest invaluable really and makes it abit harder for us

Nopeare

crosstownk wrote: »

You're right - I think we need to be more organised tomorrow, no doubt about it.

As I stated earlier, it's worth looking at low posters that possibly took the easy option of voting for yosser - a sign of a lurker with a role, imo.

If we're going to have a race then let's get the runners qualified early.

I could be miles off but someone else and myself noted dottie started posting earlier when I mentioned looking at low posters as if panicked. It could be a move from a panicked villager as much as a role player. But also voted y0ss

Separately I actually feel guilty that I've such a big suspicion of dottie off so little

Maximus Alexander

Nopeare wrote: »

I could be miles off but someone else and myself noted dottie started posting earlier when I mentioned looking at low posters as if panicked. It could be a move from a panicked villager as much as a role player. But also voted y0ss

Separately I actually feel guilty that I've such a big suspicion of dottie off so little

No guilt. In the Game of Thrones, you win or you die.