T-boned by teenage on bicycle

romperstomper · 26-09-2016 6:51pm #1

While cycling home today I was hit from the side by a teenager who turned onto the road i was travelling down. we are both fine with minor bruising. however the kid is demanding compensation (he is from the area, we know each other to see) to fix his bike (broken spokes).

needless to say i don't want to give him anything for an accident I didn't cause BUT his mates were behind him so I will be outnumbered if this goes to small claims court.

suggestions?

BreadnBuddha · 26-09-2016 6:53pm

romperstomper wrote: »

comng home today I was hit from the side by a teenager who turnee onto the road i was travelling down. we are both fine with minor bruising. however the kid is demanding compensation (he is from the area, we know each other to see) to fix his bike (broken spokes).

needless to say i dont want to give him anything for an accident I didnt cause BUT his mates were behind him so I will be outnumbered if this goes to small claims court.

suggestions?

Are you well enough to extend your two middle fingers?

Atlantic Dawn · 26-09-2016 6:54pm

Who had the right of way? I'd imagine you did if he collided with your side or were there traffic lights?

ThisRegard · 26-09-2016 6:55pm

What happened, he cycled into you on a road you had right of way on? If so ignore it and drop into the gardai to cover yourself.

ED E · 26-09-2016 6:59pm

Get ahead of him, give a statement to the gardai, no little toe rag will go to the effort of challenging it in court.

ted1 · 26-09-2016 7:07pm

It won't go to court. It's less than 40 euro. Tell him to take a hike

Dermot Illogical · 26-09-2016 7:07pm

Send him your bill.

romperstomper · 26-09-2016 8:22pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Who had the right of way? I'd imagine you did if he collided with your side or were there traffic lights?

roads were of equal importance (he took left at a tee juction, i was on a straight run).

just back from the guards, they listenend to what i told them and said they would contact me if there was a complaint made. i was told they dont get involved in road accidents where no one is hurt

Del2005 · 26-09-2016 8:26pm

romperstomper wrote: »

roads were of equal importance (he took left at a tee juction, i was on a straight run).

just back from the guards, they listenend to what i told them and said they would contact me if there was a complaint made. i was told they dont get involved in road accidents where no one is hurt

If you hear from him again remind him of the always give way to traffic on your right law.

Greenman · 26-09-2016 8:33pm

romperstomper wrote: »

roads were of equal importance (he took left at a tee juction, i was on a straight run).

Did he try to overtake then do a left?

Good that you went to the Feds.

romperstomper · 26-09-2016 10:11pm

Greenman wrote: »

Did he try to overtake then do a left?

Good that you went to the Feds.

thousand words etc

magicbastarder · 26-09-2016 10:29pm

romperstomper wrote: »

roads were of equal importance (he took left at a tee juction, i was on a straight run).

sounds like it was him who would have passed the yield/stop sign without yielding or stopping?

romperstomper · 26-09-2016 10:41pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

sounds like it was him who would have passed the yield/stop sign without yielding or stopping?

It is a housing estate. no signs or signals. coming to a T-junction (in my experience) usually involves stopping and checking for traffic

PropJoe10 · 26-09-2016 10:42pm

I would wave a middle finger in his direction, personally.

Cookie_Monster · 27-09-2016 2:17am

romperstomper wrote: »

It is a housing estate. no signs or signals. coming to a T-junction (in my experience) usually involves stopping and checking for traffic

always yield to traffic from the right

if you are at a junction where the roads are of equal importance, the traffic on your right has right of way. You must let that traffic pass before moving on. It is important to understand that the right of way is not an absolute right. You must proceed with caution while showing regard for other users of the road.

http://www.drivingschoolireland.com/junctions.html
it'll be in the actual legislation somewhere to the same effect.

Greenman · 27-09-2016 8:12am

As per this great diagram by Romperstomper AKA as OP the "Villain" nothing to say.

The Bishop Basher · 27-09-2016 8:41am

Just wondering...

Where are all the usual posts advising op to go immediately to the doctor to get a full check up ?

Minor bruising, as i understand it from countless previous posts on here, could be hiding a multitude of injuries that will only come to light in the coming days..

Or is that only suggested when a motorist is involved as there's potential for an insurance payout..

SteM · 27-09-2016 8:43am

Swanner wrote: »

Just wondering...

Where are all the usual posts advising op to go immediately to the doctor to get a full check up ?

Minor bruising, as i understand it from countless previous posts on here, could be hiding a multitude of injuries that will only come to light in the coming days..

Or is that only suggested when a motorist is involved as there's potential for an insurance payout..

Jeez, there's always one.

seamus · 27-09-2016 8:54am

Swanner wrote: »

Or is that only suggested when a motorist is involved as there's potential for an insurance payout..

It's because a 60kg teenager travelling at 20km/h and a 1500kg car travelling at 40km/h are incomparable.

You know, physics. The kind of basic physics anyone in control of such a vehicle should know.

Chuchote · 27-09-2016 9:09am

It would be an idea to make a dated statement naming the road and the T junction and adding a diagram or photo of the junction showing who was going where, and bring the statement to the local garda station and ask the guard there to date-stamp both pages.
This doesn't mean the gardaí take any stance on it; it's just a way of dating what you say to the time when you said it.
Put it away in a file where you keep stuff you need.
If the baby cyclist comes back at you in three months' time (when you've long forgotten the circumstances) you have a dated description from the time of the crash, which will hold more water with any authority that may want witness.

Macy0161 · 27-09-2016 9:20am

Swanner wrote: »

Or is that only suggested when a motorist is involved as there's potential for an insurance payout..

Yeah, that's it. Nothing to do with the chances of the driver of the car being injured (given the description) being low.

The Bishop Basher · 27-09-2016 9:21am

seamus wrote: »

It's because a 60kg teenager travelling at 20km/h and a 1500kg car travelling at 40km/h are incomparable.

Well the most recent example i was thinking of was a cyclist who hit a stationary car so i fail to see the relevance of your point..

He also just had some bruising yet almost every response, right from the get go, advised him to get checked out by a doc straight away..

I was just wondering why the response differs to such an extent depending on what is hit..

seamus wrote: »

You know, physics. The kind of basic physics anyone in control of such a vehicle should know.

As I said above.. In the example i had in mind, the car was stationary..

LynnGrace · 27-09-2016 9:23am

BreadnBuddha wrote: »

Are you well enough to extend your two middle fingers?

Or even one finger.

seamus · 27-09-2016 9:30am

Swanner wrote: »

Well the most recent example i was thinking of was a cyclist who hit a stationary car so i fail to see the relevance of your point.

My mind-reading skills have failed me again. OF COURSE I should have known that you were referring to some vague recent example of something you read. How stupid of me.

If someone was out for a run and said they ran into a solid brick wall. And someone else said they bumped into another runner and fell over, you'd consider the former to be more serious than the latter.

It's that simple. Your Daily Mail-esque narrative about compo culture doesn't exist.

lawred2 · 27-09-2016 9:31am

romperstomper wrote: »

It is a housing estate. no signs or signals. coming to a T-junction (in my experience) usually involves stopping and checking for traffic

you don't need signs to instruct you to not stop at a T junction

tell the dope to f*ck off

Macy0161 · 27-09-2016 9:34am

Swanner wrote: »

He also just had some bruising yet almost every response, right from the get go, advised him to get checked out by a doc straight away..

Perhaps the OP could clarify if they suffered any injury or bruising. I took it as the teenager cycling into the car that had the bruising. I don't see how the driver of the car would be injured, but they could clarify.

If someone cycled into the back of a car, I would recommend going to the doctor. Not for insurance purposes, just to be checked out. Same advice is often given if someone just comes off the bike with no one else involved!

The Bishop Basher · 27-09-2016 9:52am

seamus wrote: »

My mind-reading skills have failed me again. OF COURSE I should have known that you were referring to some vague recent example of something you read. How stupid of me.

Well I was referring to a recent thread on this forum where a cyclist hit a stationary vehicle and was looking for advice on next steps...

Nothing vague about it and no mind reading skills required. You made a few assumptions which were incorrect but hey, it happens, no biggy..

seamus wrote: »

If someone was out for a run and said they ran into a solid brick wall. And someone else said they bumped into another runner and fell over, you'd consider the former to be more serious than the latter.

Not really. My advice would be the same for both though. If you're hurt and you think it's serious or needs treatment, go see a doctor. If not, rest and ice and you'll be fine. I've no idea what point you're trying to make though..

SteM · 27-09-2016 10:00am

Swanner wrote: »

Well I was referring to a recent thread on this forum where a cyclist hit a stationary vehicle and was looking for advice on next steps...

Nothing vague about it and no mind reading skills required. You made a few assumptions which were incorrect but hey, it happens, no biggy..

Not really. My advice would be the same for both though. If you're hurt and you think it's serious or needs treatment, go see a doctor. If not, rest and ice and you'll be fine. I've no idea what point you're trying to make though..

Oddly enough, I was thinking the exact same thing about your posts in this thread.

If you're annoyed about advice on a separate thread why not post about it there instead of posting about it here?

CosmicSmash · 27-09-2016 10:06am

seamus wrote: »

My mind-reading skills have failed me again. OF COURSE I should have known that you were referring to some vague recent example of something you read. How stupid of me.

If someone was out for a run and said they ran into a solid brick wall. And someone else said they bumped into another runner and fell over, you'd consider the former to be more serious than the latter.

It's that simple. Your Daily Mail-esque narrative about compo culture doesn't exist.

There's no need to attack other posts that conflict with your views. You come across as a child throwing your toys out of the pram with the last bit.

Chuchote · 27-09-2016 10:07am

Can we agree that yes, it would be a good idea for the OP to go and get checked out after falling off his or her bike?

The Bishop Basher · 27-09-2016 10:07am

SteM wrote: »

If you're annoyed about advice on a separate thread why not post about it there instead of posting about it here?

Because my question was in relation to the fact that different advice was given on 2 similar threads. Given that this was the more recent of the 2 threads I would have thought it would be the more appropriate..

Look it was a simple enough question that elicited a very defensive response so i'll take my answer from that and leave it there...

T-boned by teenage on bicycle

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