Leinster vs Munster buildup

former total

Munster

Charleigh Shapely Numskull wrote: »

Would be a bad call, he's been better than both this season.

Blah blah experience.

Ruddock has hardly played this season, Murphy has been in great form. I'd be glad to see Leavy play, just don't think he will.

Besides, we'll need all our experience to counter the big cheating bastards on the other side.

molloyjh

leakyboots wrote: »

I'd say it's Heaslip who has to be worried about Stander, not Leavy/VdF

Sure don't we all remember what happened the last time we heard that....

http://www.the42.ie/munster-leinster-match-report-27-december-2520838-Dec2015/

Jamie Heaslip was masterful at number eight

And not a mention of Stander at all....

molloyjh

Munster

molloyjh wrote: »

Tantrums he says....

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/ogara-letter-to-editor-why-i-refuse-to-be-scapegoated-by-kevin-myers-26633612.html

:cool:

EDIT: God this is almost cathartic.

Here he is crying and talking about himself at length after his cameo off the bench in our win against Australia:

Trojan

Munster

This place has changed. About 5 years ago we'd have trolling and banning left, right and centre in this thread. I guess it's a bit like D'arcy's comment about it being about the rugby now. Whatever about the match, I think the level of discourse here is far more pleasant than it was.

molloyjh

Munster

molloyjh wrote: »

Sure don't we all remember what happened the last time we heard that....

http://www.the42.ie/munster-leinster-match-report-27-december-2520838-Dec2015/



And not a mention of Stander at all....

We've been hearing this from down south literally every year, with different protagonists. He's had to look out for Cawlin, he's had to look out for POM, he's had to look out for Leamy, he's had to look out for Stander.

Mahatma Geansai

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Charleigh Shapely Numskull wrote: »

We've been hearing this from down south literally every year, with different protagonists. He's had to look out for Cawlin, he's had to look out for POM, he's had to look out for Leamy, he's had to look out for Stander.

It depends what you look for in a number 8. If you want a world-class carrier who is excellent off the base of a scrum, you opt for Stander. If you want a well rounded backrower who doesn't excel at any aspects and has a very good understanding with the coach, you opt for Heaslip.

Charleigh Shapely Numskull

Munster

Charleigh Shapely Numskull wrote: »

We've been hearing this from down south literally every year, with different protagonists. He's had to look out for Cawlin, he's had to look out for POM, he's had to look out for Leamy, he's had to look out for Stander.

It's like rugby's version of "Watch out Beadles about" with a different player each season.

Mahatma Geansai

Munster

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

It depends what you look for in a number 8. If you want a world-class carrier who is excellent off the base of a scrum, you opt for Stander. If you want a well rounded backrower who doesn't excel at any aspects, you opt for Heaslip.

Ha ha - and you were saying Darcy was a bit like Conor George!

molloyjh

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

It depends what you look for in a number 8. If you want a world-class carrier who is excellent off the base of a scrum, you opt for Stander. If you want a well rounded backrower who doesn't excel at any aspects, you opt for Heaslip.

His defensive work and control at the base of the scrum are 2 things that leap to mind that he excels at. That he is as well rounded as he is and has no real appreciable weaknesses in itself is huge. I'm sure you didn't mean to undersell the guy though while using the term "world-class" for Stander.

Also, is Standers carrying really "world class"? Has he been as destructive as SOB or Healy in their pomp?

molloyjh

Munster

molloyjh wrote: »

Also, is Standers carrying really "world class"? Has he been as destructive as SOB or Healy in their pomp?

He has and he gets 100 extra destructive points because he's from Munster so he's actually way more destructive than both of them. Combined.

thomond2006

Trojan wrote: »

This place has changed. About 5 years ago we'd have trolling and banning left, right and centre in this thread. I guess it's a bit like D'arcy's comment about it being about the rugby now. Whatever about the match, I think the level of discourse here is far more pleasant than it was.

Shut up.




:pac:

Neil3030

He didn't mean to say Stander is a class carrier.

He meant to say Stander is an ass harrier:

<fighter jet noises>

leakyboots

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molloyjh wrote: »

Sure don't we all remember what happened the last time we heard that....

http://www.the42.ie/munster-leinster-match-report-27-december-2520838-Dec2015/



And not a mention of Stander at all....

You only have to go to May old bean, I seem to recall CJ outplaying him in a narrow loss.

leakyboots

The team that scores the most points

Neil3030 wrote: »

He didn't mean to say Stander is a class carrier.

He meant to say Stander is an ass harrier:

<fighter jet noises>

Jamie Kneeslip :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3HvvvnlGQI

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leakyboots wrote: »

Jamie Kneeslip :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3HvvvnlGQI

ireland lost without heaslip
ireland won without stander

go figure :cool:

leakyboots

Munster

leakyboots wrote: »

You only have to go to May old bean, I seem to recall CJ outplaying him in a narrow loss.

I'd be interested to know specifically what you recall about that game. Do you recall Stander making less metres than Heaslip? Because that happened. Do you recall him making half the number of tackles Heaslip did? Because that happened too.

How did he outplay him? Other than being from Munster.

molloyjh

leakyboots wrote: »

You only have to go to May old bean, I seem to recall CJ outplaying him in a narrow loss.

Not sure that's what happened, but after the game in Thomond the talk about Stander ahead of the Aviva game (in April) wasn't as prevalent. Soz...

Munster

I wonder can I find a photo anywhere of Stander wearing Jamie Heaslip pyjamas...

mfceiling

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

It depends what you look for in a number 8.

"who doesn't excel at any aspects".

Jesus even by your standards that is priceless.

.ak

Deleted User wrote: »

I wonder can I find a photo anywhere of Stander wearing Jamie Heaslip pyjamas...

Does Stander sleep?

.ak

Trojan wrote: »

This place has changed. About 5 years ago we'd have trolling and banning left, right and centre in this thread. I guess it's a bit like D'arcy's comment about it being about the rugby now. Whatever about the match, I think the level of discourse here is far more pleasant than it was.

Mods are just better these days is all.

Neil3030

Can any season ticket holders please help - if I have 2 season tickets, but would rather sit in another (cheaper) area of the Aviva than the one I've been allocated, to be with a group of other people, is that possible to do officially somehow?

Neil3030

Munster

Neil3030 wrote: »

Can any season ticket holders please help - if I have 2 season tickets, but would rather sit in another (cheaper) area of the Aviva than the one I've been allocated, to be with a group of other people, is that possible to do officially somehow?

It was but it's too late now. There was the option to create a group of STHs who would all sit together.

Neil3030

Charleigh Shapely Numskull wrote: »

It was but it's too late now. There was the option to create a group of STHs who would all sit together.

Well the others still need to buy tickets, they are not season ticket holders.

molloyjh

Neil3030 wrote: »

Well the others still need to buy tickets, they are not season ticket holders.

Not sure there is anything you can do I'm afraid. You'd have to buy the cheaper ticket and sell your ST one.

Neil3030

Munster

Neil3030 wrote: »

Well the others still need to buy tickets, they are not season ticket holders.

In that case I guess not no other than buy another ticket.

Neil3030

molloyjh wrote: »

Not sure there is anything you can do I'm afraid. You'd have to buy the cheaper ticket and sell your ST one.

Thanks, final question - what's the policy on babies in arms, is it allowed and is there a section of the stadium recommended for same?

irishbucsfan

Munster

Neil3030 wrote: »

Thanks, final question - what's the policy on babies in arms, is it allowed and is there a section of the stadium recommended for same?

Are you intending to throw said baby onto the pitch at any point during the game?

Neil3030

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Are you intending to throw said baby onto the pitch at any point during the game?

Only if she starts cheering for Munster.

connemara man

Neil3030 wrote: »

Only if she starts cheering for Munster.

Would makinge a joke about babies crying and Munster fans sounding alike be going too far?

irishbucsfan

Munster

connemara man wrote: »

Would makinge a joke about babies crying and Munster fans sounding alike be going too far?

What is the difference between a Munster fan and a crying baby?

The baby isn't able to get up and leave 10 minutes before the end of the game when their team is losing

Bogsnorkler

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This really is a Leinster echo chamber with the odd absolute loon/wum from munster

molloyjh

Bogsnorkler wrote: »

This really is a Leinster echo chamber with the odd absolute loon/wum from munster

For the record this is all good natured banter driven by comments earlier in the week about a lack of bite to this one. We're just having a bit of craic.

connemara man

Munster

connemara man wrote: »

Would makinge a joke about babies crying and Munster fans sounding alike be going too far?

The baby is just "sarcastically" crying...

thomond2006

Teferi

Munster

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

I saw that. Its a pity that he can't shed the blue goggles.

He has the ability to be a pretty good journalist, but he's currently just another Conor George.

This chap accusing anyone else of being biased is the highlight of the thread. Hands down funniest post.

Felix Jones is God

Teferi wrote: »

This chap accusing anyone else of being biased is the highlight of the thread. Hands down funniest post.

Pot..... kettle

Podge_irl

Munster

Teferi wrote: »

This chap accusing anyone else of being biased is the highlight of the thread. Hands down funniest post.

To be fair, D'Arcy is a bit much at times.

Teferi

Munster

Felix Jones is God wrote: »

Pot..... kettle

You, of all people, getting involved in this shows a massive lack of self awareness anyway

Felix Jones is God

Teferi wrote: »

You, of all people, getting involved in this shows a massive lack of self awareness anyway

Comedy gold dude.

Zzippy

Jesus it's like a school playground in here.

Get back to the match lads. Any more personal attacks will be a ban.

former total

Munster

Podge_irl wrote: »

To be fair, D'Arcy is a bit much at times.

He's not.

He writes lengthy articles which go into great detail, draw on his vast experience and are usually very balanced.

But what happens is that people are too lazy to read the whole thing and just scan it for the two sentences they want to get outraged over. They expect him to be biased and that's all they want to see.

Podge_irl

Munster

former total wrote: »

He's not.

He writes lengthy articles which go into great detail, draw on his vast experience and are usually very balanced.

But what happens is that people are too lazy to read the whole thing and just scan it for the two sentences they want to get outraged over. They expect him to be biased and that's all they want to see.

Yeah, that's exactly what I do

former total

Munster

Podge_irl wrote: »

Yeah, that's exactly what I do

I didn't mean you, fwiw

shootermacg

The team that scores the most points

Don don don! Salty enough for ye yet bois?!!

Knock-on scrum five!

molloyjh

shootermacg wrote: »

Don don don! Salty enough for ye yet bois?!!

Knock-on scrum five!

Haha, that'd be a yellow and a PT in most people's book. First contact was to the jaw 2-3m out from the line. No question TOL got very lucky that day.

Munster

I've just gotten around to reading D'Arcy's article in full. You'd have to be semi literate at best to think it bears any resemblance to anything Conor George could ever write.

I was actually are the game in 2007 he mentions, Luke Fitz came on and created a try from nothing. I've never been so cold and wet at a match.

Dave_The_Sheep

Munster

molloyjh wrote: »

Haha, that'd be a yellow and a PT in most people's book. First contact was to the jaw 2-3m out from the line. No question TOL got very lucky that day.

It was bizarre, especially with the benefit of a TV replay that the refs had. It's one of those decisions where you wonder if the refs are watching the same game or some parallel universe.

Still, happily it had absolutely no bearing on the result.

Munster

Well well gents. This thread has certainly developed a bit of bite the last few days, I think it's perhaps time that we allow things to simmer a little bit before the match thread tomorrow and calm the heated discussion before anyone else gets compared to Conor George.

In keeping with this, I'd like to revisit an interesting little incident from 2009 that some recently uncovered new information may shed some light upon.

Exhibit B:

Exhibit B is a small snipit from the 2009 humiliation of the Pashun Mongers by the Ladyboys in a 30 - 0 thrashing in the RDS (yes that's correct, Munster - nil póint).

While the first half was all smiles and tackles and kind gestures, the second half was off to a violent start when upon 53 minutes John Hayes channelled his inner Mike Brown and stamped on Cian Healys eye multiple times.

Totally out of character.

So why did it happen? Well as I said, some new information has refreshed a memory that I think explains why the Bull saw red. As many of you know at half time in the RDS there are often junior and schools teams out to play for 10 minutes in front of the crowd. I was at this match and Leinser held an underage and development talent showcase event where top players from both provinces from schools to academy equivalent age lined up for an 80m race.

Dave Kearney was first home followed by Andrew Conway and in 3rd place was a young lad from Cork called Simon Zebo. With this new information it is clear that Hayes went nuts after he found out that:

Dave Kearney is faster than Simon Zebo

Mahatma Geansai

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Franno in the Indo reckons that the Munster backrow of POM/TOD/Stander is the strongest in the country. He also appears to indicate that with Tyler fit, Munster have the better half-backs too.