What annoys you about other runners and running in general?

davedanon

Djoucer wrote: »

The Phoenix park is the perfect example of all that is wrong with transport in Ireland.

Pedestrians ignore the lovely walking paths and trails, preferring to use the cycle paths, cyclists don't use them as they're awful, preferring the nice roads. And motorists use the park as a short cut, ignoring all recreational users of it.

It's quite wonderful when you think about it.

Calling it a transport problem misses the point. It's the Irish mindset. "Ah sure, they're only rules. What harm?" See: crossing roads, smoking 'outside' pubs, 'obeying' park bye-laws, parking on paths, parking on cycle-lanes, driving in cycle-lanes. Driving per se, in fact.

Djoucer

davedanon wrote: »

Calling it a transport problem misses the point. It's the Irish mindset. "Ah sure, they're only rules. What harm?" See: crossing roads, smoking 'outside' pubs, 'obeying' park bye-laws, parking on paths, parking on cycle-lanes, driving in cycle-lanes. Driving per se, in fact.

Agree 100%. I didn't call it a transport problem rather perfect example of the transport/above.

average_runner

Djoucer wrote: »

Agree 100%. I didn't call it a transport problem rather perfect example of the transport/above.

We are all very blind sometimes. While the park was busy with kids on Xmas eve, we still had people parking dangerously.

kit3

davedanon wrote: »

There is a driver mindset which reckons that nothing should halt their uninterrupted progress unless it some other form of motorised vehicle. The concept of waiting patiently behind the 'obstruction' (walkers/runner/cyclists) until it is safe to overtake is foreign to this cohort.

Having said that, I agree, no need to be on the road in the PP, for the most part. If it is unavoidable, a running group should be going single-file - something I notice cyclists seem loath to do. Not a criticism or jibe, just an observation. What's going on there?

Agree completely. Only problem I see is the actual location of the cycling & walking paths on the main road. If you park on the main road & have a buggy it's fairly difficult to get it under the bars & across the grass to the walking path - if they were reversed it would make more sense

average_runner

kit3 wrote: »

Agree completely. Only problem I see is the actual location of the cycling & walking paths on the main road. If you park on the main road & have a buggy it's fairly difficult to get it under the bars & across the grass to the walking path - if they were reversed it would make more sense

Yeah it was a strange one whoever designed it

Annie get your Run

average_runner wrote: »

Yeah it was a strange one whoever designed it

Someone who sits behind a desk and doesn't run, walk or cycle :rolleyes: I emailed them last year when the footpaths were constantly under water and everyone was on the cycle lanes as a result. They said they were holding a big meeting to discuss changes and improvements. I see they've painted the bikes on the cycle paths again which presumably means they're doing nothing. Such a shame for all park users.

average_runner

Annie get your Run wrote: »

Someone who sits behind a desk and doesn't run, walk or cycle :rolleyes: I emailed them last year when the footpaths were constantly under water and everyone was on the cycle lanes as a result. They said they were holding a big meeting to discuss changes and improvements. I see they've painted the bikes on the cycle paths again which presumably means they're doing nothing. Such a shame for all park users.

In fairness that probably took a good few meetings to discuss it

Zipppy

I'm annoyed that I'll. off all week and was looking forward to lots of runs....
got a fecking bad cold yesterday....ahhhhhhhhh

ThisRegard

Switching the cycle lane with the footpath doesn't make much sense, you're left with pedestrians closer to the road and bordered by the cycle lane on the other side, they'll have to cross the cycle lane sooner or later. A bit of common sense is required in the park, if you want to go time trialling there just use the road.

average_runner

ThisRegard wrote: »

Switching the cycle lane with the footpath doesn't make much sense, you're left with pedestrians closer to the road and bordered by the cycle lane on the other side, they'll have to cross the cycle lane sooner or later. A bit of common sense is required in the park, if you want to go time trialling there just use the road.

Time trialling until someone opens the car door on Chesterfield Ave.

Then again a park is not a place for time trialling.

Maximus Alexander

average_runner wrote: »

Time trialling until someone opens the car door on Chesterfield Ave.

Then again a park is not a place for time trialling.

2 million parkrunners would disagree :pac:

Djoucer

average_runner wrote: »

Time trialling until someone opens the car door on Chesterfield Ave.

Then again a park is not a place for time trialling.

Ban cars from the park. It's no place for cars.

average_runner

Djoucer wrote: »

Ban cars from the park. It's no place for cars.

I would agree if we had the public transport to support it. Still time trialling can't happen though due to insurance reasons and also a park is a place for people to relax and not worry about people flying around.

average_runner

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

2 million parkrunners would disagree :pac:

There is not two million people in Dublin:pac:

kit3

ThisRegard wrote: »

Switching the cycle lane with the footpath doesn't make much sense, you're left with pedestrians closer to the road and bordered by the cycle lane on the other side, they'll have to cross the cycle lane sooner or later. A bit of common sense is required in the park, if you want to go time trialling there just use the road.

It might mean that the cycle tracks are clear of pedestrians though

average_runner

kit3 wrote: »

It might mean that the cycle tracks are clear of pedestrians though

Be better if the cycle lanes took the park nature in, instead of the boring route they are on. Do it like in other countries parks.

ThisRegard

When I say time trialling I didn't think it would be picked up in the most literal form, I simply mean the off road cycle lane is not the place for going for a hard and fast ride.

kit3 wrote: »

It might mean that the cycle tracks are clear of pedestrians though

It still would not work though, you'll still have kids, adults and animals alike running around enjoying the park having to cross the cycle path. Unless a new no walking on the grass and don't think about enjoying this massive open space bylaw was enforced.

walshb

People simply need to use cop on. Roads are not for running unless you're an idiot. Roads for cars and bikes. Paths for walking and running in some instances. FFS, it's quite a big area. Clowns running on roads causing a nuisance and a danger need addressing...

davedanon

Ban everyone from the park, and lock the gates.


Job done.

average_runner

davedanon wrote: »

Ban everyone from the park, and lock the gates.


Job done.

Don't say that loudly as the council might think it's a good idea.

davedanon

average_runner wrote: »

Don't say that loudly as the council might think it's a good idea.

There is a certain municipal approach that thinks like this. Someone injured in the playground? Better close the playground.

ThisRegard

average_runner wrote: »

Don't say that loudly as the council might think it's a good idea.

It's under the remit of the OPW.

average_runner

ThisRegard wrote: »

It's under the remit of the OPW.

Even worst the government has the power.

Annie get your Run

average_runner wrote: »

Be better if the cycle lanes took the park nature in, instead of the boring route they are on. Do it like in other countries parks.

There are two types of cyclists in the PP, one is the commuter cyclist who wants to get from A to B reasonably quickly and safely (same as motorist commuters), the other are the weekend tourists who are there to enjoy the beauty of the park. Neither of these are really catered for. I'd love if the OPW closed Chesterfield Avenue to traffic permanently and built lovely walking trails/paths, running trails/paths and left the main road for the cyclists. Cars could be diverted around the North Road or better still, banned altogether .

average_runner

Annie get your Run wrote: »

There are two types of cyclists in the PP, one is the commuter cyclist who wants to get from A to B reasonably quickly and safely (same as motorist commuters), the other are the weekend tourists who are there to enjoy the beauty of the park. Neither of these are really catered for. I'd love if the OPW closed Chesterfield Avenue to traffic permanently and built lovely walking trails/paths, running trails/paths and left the main road for the cyclists. Cars could be diverted around the North Road or better still, banned altogether .

Yep it be great if we had the transport network to support it. Sadly it would be a massive hit on the zoo

I see Run Killarney has "I run to burn off the crazy" as their motto/message this year.

Utterly moronic mottos and messages, and the need to adopt them in every second race, that annoys me. You can almost hear the "tee hee, it's so cutesy".

Similarly, moronic messages on signs that are supposed to be "inspirational" along the route annoy me.

MonkstownHoop

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I see Run Killarney has "I run to burn off the crazy" as their motto/message this year.

Utterly moronic mottos and messages, and the need to adopt them in every second race, that annoys me. You can almost hear the "tee hee, it's so cutesy".

Similarly, moronic messages on signs that are supposed to be "inspirational" along the route annoy me.

Sounds like somebody poured out a bowl of cereal this morning only to find out they were out of milk.

ultrapercy

Deleted User wrote: »

I see Run Killarney has "I run to burn off the crazy" as their motto/message this year.

Utterly moronic mottos and messages, and the need to adopt them in every second race, that annoys me. You can almost hear the "tee hee, it's so cutesy".

Similarly, moronic messages on signs that are supposed to be "inspirational" along the route annoy me.

Must agree with you on this. It's why x country bhaa and I suspect IMRA is so refreshing, the absenice of bull****.

glacial_pace71

davedanon wrote: »

Ban everyone from the park, and lock the gates.


Job done.

There was an episode of 'Yes, Minister' in which a hospital was found to have no patients. It won awards, e.g. for hygiene etc, and so they didn't want any patients to adversely impact upon the standards they'd achieved.

Hannibal_Smith

Some little trog trying to nick my phone out of my very own hand*!

I dunno what annoyed me more...the audacity of him trying to take something out of my own hand, or the cheek of him after seeing my athletic physique and natural speed he thought I wouldn't catch him when he ran off with it! :mad: :P

* I forgot my phone was too big for the back pocket in me shorts so had to carry it :rolleyes:

muddypaws

Discarded gel packets along a route. Ran a half on Saturday in a gorgeous part of the country, and the roads were littered with discarded gel packets. The bottles aren't as bad, they're bigger and easier for the clean up crew to get afterwards, but if you have a gel out on a run, you've carried it there in a pocket or belt, so when its empty, just put it back where it was.

aoboa

muddypaws wrote: »

Discarded gel packets along a route. Ran a half on Saturday in a gorgeous part of the country, and the roads were littered with discarded gel packets. The bottles aren't as bad, they're bigger and easier for the clean up crew to get afterwards, but if you have a gel out on a run, you've carried it there in a pocket or belt, so when its empty, just put it back where it was.

Yup. It's that time of year where the whole marathon route is littered with gel wrappers from folks practicing on it.

sideswipe

muddypaws wrote: »

Discarded gel packets along a route. Ran a half on Saturday in a gorgeous part of the country, and the roads were littered with discarded gel packets. The bottles aren't as bad, they're bigger and easier for the clean up crew to get afterwards, but if you have a gel out on a run, you've carried it there in a pocket or belt, so when its empty, just put it back where it was.

It seems people are incapable of having cop on. Race organisers need to force home the message and start handing out DQ's.

ittakestwo

Live in Dublin suburbia so alot of runs are on paths and the following irritates me.

1. People who don't look up when walking....,. 99.99% of collisions will happen when one was not looking where they were going, but of course the runner will get the blame because they were running while the other person was just walking. They always meander too to make it even harder to avoid them.

2. people walking double file in the opposite direction to you on the path and not having the cop on to go single file to let you past., And then having this face of don't crash into me when you get right up to them. Where the f''k can I go? Jump onto the road where cars are driving by are into a wall, seriously.

3. Cars not knowing the rules of the road.... When you drive from a secondary road onto a main road you wait for pedestrians and runners who are crossing. Had a guy beeping at me last week who wanted to drive through a stop sign on to the main road but could not as I was running across at the junction. I get really irritated over this and would have punched the f@@ker if he got out of the car.

podgemonster

One thing that gets to me sometimes (and its probably more so me being cranky or on edge in a race) is lack of directions from a race stewards/marshals.


I often find myself in a race away from the leading pack and in front of the mass fun runners and I've notices on occasion approaching junctions in the road race to find the steward taking pictures and applauding "well done", "keep going" and the opposite a steward with hands in the pockets and looking blankly. Now the encouragement is great an all but their primary jobs are to warn/halt traffic and direct participants what road to take. I feel bad saying it because I know these people are volunteers often standing in the rain and no event would be possible to hold without them but I don't need clapping I need clear timely indication of where I am suppose to turn.

positron

That they are all quicker than me.... effin show-offs!! I'll show them... some day... at the cakes counter. Revenge will be delicious.

slingerz

what annoys me is the really fast people and people who make it look easy. i am really slow and find it exceptionally difficult!!!

RayCun

slingerz wrote: »

what annoys me is the really fast people and people who make it look easy. i am really slow and find it exceptionally difficult!!!

It never gets easier - you just get faster

Murph_D

Hard work is what makes it 'look' easier.

slingerz

RayCun wrote: »

It never gets easier - you just get faster

i'm still waiting for that get faster bit!!

partyguinness

I can't understand women who turn up to events caked in a full face of make up.

Saw another example at a HM 2 weeks ago. The lady next to me- full face- not just some lippy and blusher but eyeliner, fake lashes the absolute works and she was in the 1:40 to 1:45 finishing wave so it wasn't like she was a charity runner along for a bit of a laugh with some friends.

partyguinness

Deleted User wrote: »

I see Run Killarney has "I run to burn off the crazy" as their motto/message this year.

Utterly moronic mottos and messages, and the need to adopt them in every second race, that annoys me. You can almost hear the "tee hee, it's so cutesy".

Similarly, moronic messages on signs that are supposed to be "inspirational" along the route annoy me.

Yeah I hear you with the wanky messages but one message did actually touch me...

"Some day you will not be able to run 26.2 mile. Today is not the day."

Saw that about 17 miles into my first marathon and I nearly cried thinking about it afterwards....:o

ThisRegard

partyguinness wrote: »

I can't understand women who turn up to events caked in a full face of make up.

Saw another example at a HM 2 weeks ago. The lady next to me- full face- not just some lippy and blusher but eyeliner, fake lashes the absolute works and she was in the 1:40 to 1:45 finishing wave so it wasn't like she was a charity runner along for a bit of a laugh with some friends.

Nothing wrong with running well and looking fabulous while doing so. How many men stick a bit of gel or whatever in their hair on the way out to race.

partyguinness

ThisRegard wrote: »

Nothing wrong with running well and looking fabulous while doing so. How many men stick a bit of gel or whatever in their hair on the way out to race.

But does it not run and smear? I'm thinking Alice Cooper after a heavy show. It's bad enough sweat stinging my eyes.

A bit of hair gel is one thing but going to the trouble of putting on a full face of make up. I'm sorry something is amiss.

ThisRegard

I'm far from an expert but there's waterproof makeup and articles all over the place about what's best, including in Running Magazines, to wear during work outs and running.

ger664

partyguinness wrote: »

But does it not run and smear? I'm thinking Alice Cooper after a heavy show. It's bad enough sweat stinging my eyes.

A bit of hair gel is one thing but going to the trouble of putting on a full face of make up. I'm sorry something is amiss.

Saw a lady do her make-up before the 30 miler in SMB one year. Only runner that wasn't lapped by curley and face was still intact at the finish.

partyguinness

ger664 wrote: »

Saw a lady do her make-up before the 30 miler in SMB one year. Only runner that wasn't lapped by curley and face was still intact at the finish.

Maybe there is a lesson there for all of us....right I'm off to Brown Thomas for some Rimmel.

Sunny Dayz

It's not good for your skin though to run with loads of makeup on, mixing with sweat. I usually don't run with makeup, sometimes a bit of undereye concealer if there's going to be someone else about cos I get quite bad dark circles. But if I was doing a race and the weather was ok I would wear mascara, concealer and a cc cream or very light foundation just to give my skin a bit of life. I wore a bit of foundation for a charity run last weekend, and the spot that's been brewing on my cheek I'm assuming is a result of that. But when it's lashing rain, getting mascara or makeup in your eyes is the last thing you need to distract you.

"Keep her lit"

I see that phrase everywhere on messages about running on social media.

davedanon

Deleted User wrote: »

"Keep her lit"

I see that phrase everywhere on messages about running on social media.

You can thank our Northie friends for that one.