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New Irish pro Conti team (aka The Aquablue thread)

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    #662
    gman2k
    Registered Users Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭gman2k


    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/former-aqua-blue-sport-rider-stefan-denifl-confesses-blood-doping-police-interview-409519#WYt7eY08YJP0rW0B.99


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    RobFowl
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    How could a team that abandons staff and reneges on contracts leaving almost everyone on the team out of pocket be involved with stuff like this????


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    #664
    Junior
    Registered Users Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Junior


    elchupanebrey wrote: »
    Wonder would there have been suspicions of this in the UCI, hence Aquablue Sports struggle to get invites last year?!

    No that was still down to Rick being a dick.


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    #665
    TheBlaaMan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan


    2006 is calling and wants its credibility back, please:


    It has been reported that 40 blood bags were discovered in a garage in Erfurt, Germany, and that Schmidt is ready to cooperate with investigators. As was the case in the Operacion Puerto inquiry in Spain, the blood bags are labelled with simple abbreviations, or code-names. Investigators hope to secure a court order to secure the DNA of the accused athletes so that the identity of the 40 blood bags can be confirmed.


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    harringtonp
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    RobFowl wrote: »
    How could a team that abandons staff and reneges on contracts leaving almost everyone on the team out of pocket be involved with stuff like this????

    I don't know anything about Aquablue apart from what I read in boards and the occasional article on cyclingweekly.

    However my gut feeling is that Denifl is an individual transgression rather than a team supported one.


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    MPFGLB
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    harringtonp wrote: »
    I don't know anything about Aquablue apart from what I read in boards and the occasional article on cyclingweekly.

    However my gut feeling is that Denifl is an individual transgression rather than a team supported one.

    Given that is is multiple Austrains both cycling and skiing it seems to me a national thing based on the doctor the Austrians had

    Not saying though other countries don't have equally shady doctors


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    Shedite27
    Registered Users Posts: 9,397 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    harringtonp wrote: »
    I don't know anything about Aquablue apart from what I read in boards and the occasional article on cyclingweekly.

    However my gut feeling is that Denifl is an individual transgression rather than a team supported one.
    Is it the sort of thing you could hide from a team on a 3 week tour? These guys share bedrooms, live in each other pockets while at Vuelta.


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    harringtonp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    Shedite27 wrote: »
    Is it the sort of thing you could hide from a team on a 3 week tour? These guys share bedrooms, live in each other pockets while at Vuelta.

    Good point, that I don't know


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    Mr. Grieves
    Registered Users Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Mr. Grieves


    RobFowl wrote: »
    How could a team that abandons staff and reneges on contracts leaving almost everyone on the team out of pocket be involved with stuff like this????

    Aqua Blue on list of tax defaulters in today's Irish Times. 118k for under declaration of VAT.


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    velo.2010
    Registered Users Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭velo.2010


    Mr. Grieves wrote: »
    Aqua Blue on list of tax defaulters in today's Irish Times. 118k for under declaration of VAT.

    Let me guess, Delaney's reaction was something along the lines of...

    'I was recently subject to a Revenue audit, some issues were identified and as soon as these were agreed the appropriate tax, interest and penalties were immediately paid in full.'


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    RobFowl
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    harringtonp wrote: »
    I don't know anything about Aquablue apart from what I read in boards and the occasional article on cyclingweekly.

    However my gut feeling is that Denifl is an individual transgression rather than a team supported one.




    As you yesterday we also know Aquablue is listed as a tax defaulter on the Revenue list.
    We know for a fact now they didn't pay their taxes either...


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    #673
    py
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    Money still owed to the riders: https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/ex-aqua-blue-riders-still-owed-thousands-410102
    Riders and staff from the Aqua Blue team are still owed “thousands” six months after the team folded as the UCI continues to pursue the team’s backers for cash.


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    #674
    gman2k
    Registered Users Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭gman2k


    Adam Bylthe's Strada (minus wheels) is for sale on a UK Facebook group page- listed by a family member


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    RobFowl
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    Stefal Denfil banned to day for 4 years. Doping from 2014 through to 2018 and stripped of all his results in that period.
    Vuelta stage win among that.
    Sad for the team and all concerned.


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    #676
    TheBlaaMan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan


    RobFowl wrote: »
    ...stripped of all his results in that period.
    Vuelta stage win among that.

    Oh the irony of this sport..... Contador gets credited a Vuelta stage win due to someone else's doping bust. Who'd have thought it would come to this?


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