RAW Superthread

The White Wolf

The Fiend is grand so far but for me it's the Firefly Fun house segments that I'm enjoying more, because those segments seem like the more pure unadulterated Bray bits to me.

Whereas with the Fiend, it's the external stuff that takes you out of it i.e. Cole or Rollins screaming like a fool.

Lithium93_

The White Wolf wrote: »

The Fiend is grand so far but for me it's the Firefly Fun house segments that I'm enjoying more, because those segments seem like the more pure unadulterated Bray bits to me.

Whereas with the Fiend, it's the external stuff that takes you out of it i.e. Cole or Rollins screaming like a fool.

Mute button, or just turn down the volume.

SlickRic

The Fiend is in a title match far too soon.

As usual, WWE will ultimately book themselves into a corner by putting hot character in the title picture before he is firmly established in the psyche of the audience as strong and formidable.

WWE short term nonsense.

Why not have Fiend pick guys off? Why does he have to be booked against the champion as soon as fúcking possible? Maybe just have the Fiend scare and beat people for a few months first?

Fiend should be doing nothing but beat people for now. Why compromise him or the champion yet? Establish him over a long period of time, then if a title match comes, you can decide if it's the right time for a win or loss.

Fiend has to win or at least look remarkably strong in this match at HIAC. You're hurting the character if you do anything else, which means you'll be compromising Seth to too big a degree. I mean, they already are. The champion should never be cowering. HBK knew Mankind was mental, but never cowered.

They've no clue how to book anything properly.

SureYWouldntYa

Ric I’d agree with you as a whole

At the same time people would be saying you need to strike while the iron is hot, our lack of faith in WWE doing it right is whats holding us back from being happy with any direction they go in

Chuck Noland

Either a fiend win or else an attack by others leading to a DQ result or something? As said by Ric it’s a tough corner they have backed themselves into

johnnyryan89

Chuck Noland wrote: »

Either a fiend win or else an attack by others leading to a DQ result or something? As said by Ric it’s a tough corner they have backed themselves into

Yeah they've kinda booked themselves into a tough corner but we should wait and see what happens. Might be a long shot but they could have the fiend attack Rollins before the bell rings, beat him down and disappear resulting in the match not even happening.

Have Rollins drop the belt through "injury" and gets drafted to Smackdown because he's not champion anymore. Gives Raw a chance to crown a new champion on its new deal with USA, another tournament maybe seeing as the KOTR put on some good matches.

Or the fiend gets drafted to Smackdown and Rollins can remain Champion on Raw. He's already booked like meh, so a beat down from the fiend isn't gonna do that much damage to him. As seen with Becky's rise from Wrestlemania pre show to main eventer it just takes one spark for someone to gain momentum again.

Chuck Noland

No matter how they do it, you won’t please the fans at this point

SlickRic

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Ric I’d agree with you as a whole

At the same time people would be saying you need to strike while the iron is hot, our lack of faith in WWE doing it right is whats holding us back from being happy with any direction they go in

I disagree.

The title is largely meaningless as a draw. A strong character like The Fiend could be. Establish him over time, (even 9 months!) as a threat, then do this.

The iron will be hot down the line to strike again if you book with a modicum of sense.

Lord TSC

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1177674793744773130

SureYWouldntYa

No theme will ever top Across the Nation

https://youtu.be/fYvBv_lp9Uc

Lithium93_

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

No theme will ever top Across the Nation

https://youtu.be/fYvBv_lp9Uc

*clears throat*

SureYWouldntYa

Lithium93_ wrote: »

*clears throat*

Nah you still have a grape stuck there or something

Even the Nickleback one is better than the Raw is War intro

*unsubscribes forever*

Lithium93_

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Nah you still have a grape stuck there or something

Even the Nickleback one is better than the Raw is War intro

*unsubscribes forever*

Also Papa's Roach's To Be Loved intro > Nickleback's.

PTH2009

Why all the hate for nickelback???

Saw them years ago great concert

Tbh hated the last 2 TV show themes but loved the superstars and 205 live ones

Loving wwe going back to the rock music themes. AC/DC for SD is great

Furious-Red

PTH2009 wrote: »

Why all the hate for nickelback???

Saw them years ago great concert

Tbh hated the last 2 TV show themes but loved the superstars and 205 live ones

Loving wwe going back to the rock music themes. AC/DC for SD is great

NXT has had some decent themes including Coheed and Cambria and currently Slipknot. Plus Takeovers usually had a decent songs too

PTH2009

New era starts tonight

Agent Coulson

Is this the new new new new new era or the new new new new new new era?

CastorTroy

So this is the last episode before HiaC? But we still have another before the draft.
And is the wild card rule gone now or is it only after the first Fox show?

PTH2009

CastorTroy wrote: »

So this is the last episode before HiaC? But we still have another before the draft.
And is the wild card rule gone now or is it only after the first Fox show?

Odd one why dont they start the draft on next weeks raw (7th Oct) and finish it on the 11th Oct SD ???

The 18th Oct SD will be the real start with the unique brands returning

ricero

Hulkamania to run wild all over the fiends ass tonight !

Lithium93_

PTH2009 wrote: »

New era starts tonight

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Is this the new new new new new era or the new new new new new new era?

More new era's than a line up of Guns N' Roses after Slash and Duff left.....

ricero wrote: »

Hulkamania to run wild all over the fiends ass tonight !

Flip that on it's reverse, put the old way past it Hogan out to pasture. Preferably for good.

Rock Lesnar

ricero wrote: »

Hulkamania to run wild all over the fiends ass tonight !

Nah, it'll be the Naaaaaaaaature boy, woooo, stylin and profilin, woooo

Itssoeasy

So I wonder will the supposed new set for raw be an updated version of an old design or something completely different.

Itssoeasy

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

ricero wrote: »

Hulkamania to run wild all over the fiends ass tonight !

Nah, it'll be the Naaaaaaaaature boy, woooo, stylin and profilin, woooo

Never mind about hulkamania running wild now can hulk even run ? I think if naitch tried to style and profile like the old days we might be having a ten bell salute(which I don't want btw)

Agent Coulson

The beginning of the new ERA featuring Hogan and Flair :eek::p

J. Marston

Itssoeasy wrote: »

So I wonder will the supposed new set for raw be an updated version of an old design or something completely different.

Here's a pic from Reddit...

https://i.redd.it/ojlj6urw4sp31.jpg

It's certainly different.

SureYWouldntYa

Id rather they put focus on having PPV sets look a bit more unique

There's no difference from a PPV to TV these days minus Mania

Agent Coulson

All LED nothing to different.

seandotcomm

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Id rather they put focus on having PPV sets look a bit more unique

There's no difference from a PPV to TV these days minus Mania

except mania was literally just a screen this year

LibSuperstar

Mysterio gonna pop up w/ a skateboard.

JP Liz V1

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The beginning of the new ERA featuring Hogan and Flair :eek::p

Is Punk also rumoured to be back?

New set. Knew it wouldn't be anything creative!

ShaneU

Screen and ramp look like one big led display

ShaneU

ShaneU wrote: »

That is woeful (except for pyro)

J. Marston

Bit bland.

Lithium93_

Looks like something you could skateboard on.

PTH2009

Going to take a while to get used to this new setup and commentary team

Tbf the whole setup is fresh

Brock time

J. Marston

That was great. Baptism of fire for Dominic, those throws from Brock looked brutal.

seandotcomm

wow, Brock did a regular suplex

PTH2009

Can we dream and have CM Punk be Reys replacement in the title match (presume Rey be too upset to have a match after seeing his son get destroyed) ??

Lesner eating his vegetables anyway

J. Marston

Brock is just fantastic.

PTH2009

**** me that's a loud siren

So far finding king a bit irritating

J. Marston

Pyro does so much for star power and spectacle.

Pentecost

Watching this live for the first time in years and on a TV too. I doubt I'll make it all the way to the end but decent start so far. Sasha is winning at HIAC I reckon, with Becky drafted to Smackdown probably.

PTH2009

Ric Flair sounds pissed

So this was just a bit plug for crown jewel team Hogan vs Team Flair

Pentecost

Ricochet might be even worse on the mic than Balor

The White Wolf

Hmmmm.....the show seemed quite full on and frenetic. Rollins was shouting like a mad man all about the HYPE.

The Brock and Mysterio bit was good but it's unlikely to go anywhere.

Loughc

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That is woeful (except for pyro)

I like it, it sums up Raw well. Bland, bland, bland.

RollieFingers

So that's two cuck angles in the few weeks since Heyman has been running things. Some of the aesthetic changes are decent but the Mike/Maria/Rusev and now Lashley/Lana stuff is just brutal. And Lawler is painful to listen to on commentary.

Chuck Noland

RollieFingers wrote: »

So that's two cuck angles in the few weeks since Heyman has been running things. Some of the aesthetic changes are decent but the Mike/Maria/Rusev and now Lashley/Lana stuff is just brutal.

At least it’s different!