RAW Superthread

CastorTroy

Omackeral wrote: »

I never knew that was his actual real middle name. Undertaker. That’s so rare.

t's like he and Paul Bearer were destined to work together.
I would prefer the badass Taker now. Just because as has been pointed out, the mystique of the Undertaker character is gone, as is his endurance. When I watched him years ago they made him seem like he could go no problem. Of course the Urn helped.
I wonder if circumstances were different, would Michelle be getting involved?

Surprised they didn't show a different angle to that women's match finish, though that would also mean getting rid of Corey saying her shoulders weren't down.
Be funny if Becky actually stood there watching the whole match.

Trying to think if Austin Theory has won a match since coming to WWE.

I can't say I agree with everything Asuka said, but she had some interesting points.
So did they mention Kayden was trained by the Dudley Boyz?

Remember when there was talk of Dominic having a match?

Omackeral

CastorTroy wrote: »

Trying to think if Austin Theory has won a match since coming to WWE.

He's Won 2 Lost 6

Beat Isaiah Swerve Scott and Joaquin Wilde (formerly DJ Z of Impact)

SMC92Ian

DM_7 wrote: »

Limiting the number of people working?

It's not live.

Agent Coulson

I haven't watched this weeks RAW however if AJ really wanted to get under Takers skin (yes I know) he should bring up the Sara throat tattoo.

DM_7

SMC92Ian wrote: »

It's not live.

Is that not more reason to use old footage? Less time needed to complete a taping.

Chuck Noland

I haven’t been watching much lately but is biker taker back?

seandotcomm

Chuck Noland wrote: »

I haven’t been watching much lately but is biker taker back?

Yes, except minus the bike and Limp Bizkit / Kidd Rock

Chuck Noland

seandotcomm wrote: »

Yes, except minus the bike and Limp Bizkit / Kidd Rock

So he’s not?

He’s not doing the deadman gimmick so? Just the music / entrance? Didn’t wwe lose the rights too Rollin the theme song?

PTH2009

Its confusing hes kind of a mix between deadman/biker and Mark Calloway

Its possibly the only storyline that has worked since the PC shows started

The Ayatolla

Yeah they only had it for X amount of time and the changed his music to that "You're gonna pay" tune which wasn't bad.

seandotcomm

The Ayatolla wrote: »

Yeah they only had it for X amount of time and the changed his music to that "You're gonna pay" tune which wasn't bad.

Currently rewatching 2000 / 2001 WWF on the Network and he has American Badass / Rollin' on the Raw and Smackdowns, but on the PPVs its overdubbed with the faaaaar inferior "You're Gona Pay"... along with the obvious generic crowd noise that accompanies all music overdubs. Shíte craic

Monokne

I enjoyed almost all the promos on this weeks Raw and I have come to the conclusion that scripted dialogue is much more effective when there is no audience. If Kevin Owens was out there delivering that promo to near silence or getting "WHAT"'d, it would not have resonated the way it did here.

beakerjoe

Monokne wrote: »

I enjoyed almost all the promos on this weeks Raw and I have come to the conclusion that scripted dialogue is much more effective when there is no audience. If Kevin Owens was out there delivering that promo to near silence or getting "WHAT"'d, it would not have resonated the way it did here.

Filling 3 hours of just promos would be a hard job, but id be so much more interested in a show full of promos than the additional historical matches and the no crowd matches.

Taker, Edge Owens, Heyman..... all delivered fantastic promos.

Though the use if real names lately is being used too often. Its fine for one feud, but when a few do it its overkill.

I also noticed Matt Hardys participation in the Orton Edge feud to be wiped already.

CastorTroy

beakerjoe wrote: »

I also noticed Matt Hardys participation in the Orton Edge feud to be wiped already.

Don't you mean he has been... Deleted!?


:pac:


I'll get my coat

PTH2009

Raw after mania and no idea what could happen

Looking forward to it

CastorTroy

Well the bright side is there won't be annoying fans.

But because of that, they won't worry as much about call ups, I would say.

J. Marston

I think Bianca's interference was a call-up, more or less. Think she'll be on tonight.

PTH2009

CastorTroy wrote: »

Well the bright side is there won't be annoying fans.

But because of that, they won't worry as much about call ups, I would say.

Yeah none of those false pops for the call ups tonight but we could still the annual angry/sulking Brock Lesnar spot tonight

J. Marston

Asuka vs Liv. A low-key start to post-Mania Raw.

PTH2009

That farce of a 'mania rematch' tonight too

PTH2009

Belair officially on Raw now

PTH2009

Jesus H it's now a 6 person match after the tag match and Vega vs belair

ShaneU

Haven't watched Raw in ages.

This is just sad now

Six people are having two matches in one night!!

The ads are non-stop.

Pointless and unwatchable

sky88

Teddy long is a proud man tonight

seandotcomm

dreadful stuff. I'm out

PTH2009

BT have some repetitive ads

PTH2009

Apollo Crews drafted to Raw

PTH2009

Big show is back as a heel I think

The Nal

ShaneU wrote: »

Haven't watched Raw in ages.

This is just sad now

Six people are having two matches in one night!!

The ads are non-stop.

Pointless and unwatchable

Its been unwatchable due to ads for well over 10 years unfortunately.

Lord TSC

You could tell that Raw was suffering from a "We're nearly out of time we're allowed do this" situation.

WWE have, in my opinion, done the best they could with a really bad hand of cards. I can't imagine we'll be getting much of anything new going forward for quite a while now either.

ThePott

Jesus that was dreadful. Definitely a case where they were just like get it done, don't start anything new till we know where we stand.
Hope they take a break soon tbh.

grames_bond

Lord TSC wrote: »

WWE have, in my opinion, done the best they could with a really bad hand of cards.

this is really important to state - I think they have done fantastically with a no win situation. Whatever you feel about the reasons for them continuing with it - the wrestlers and crew and everyone backstage deserve so much credit for everything they have done over the past few weeks.

CastorTroy

When do you think the last time was that people thought "Yes! it's the Big Show!"

Not sure how commentary worked but if it that Raw was recorded before Mania, as reported, then they did a good job of making it not seem that way.

PTH2009

had a bad feeling they were going to give Big Show the title

it was a bit odd and why didnt they have this segment on the Raw episode instead of recording it as a 'mania segment'

Loughc

PTH2009 wrote: »

had a bad feeling they were going to give Big Show the title

it was a bit odd and why didnt they have this segment on the Raw episode instead of recording it as a 'mania segment'

They needed to pad out Raw.

Omackeral

CastorTroy wrote: »

When do you think the last time was that people thought "Yes! it's the Big Show!"

1999

sky88

I love big show

DM_7

I think Ricochet's move to win the bout thos week was interesting.

Without a crowd maybe the high risk finish was deemed overkill or maybe it is a reflection of the move getting him in bother for awkward execution? I can't rememeber the exact circumstance but I am sure he landed badly on I think Bobby Lashley in one of his last big wins. People asked recently about why they went cold on him.

2ndcoming

Sweet jebus just watched that. Let them go home Vince you absolute nutjob.

2ndcoming

Lord TSC wrote: »

You could tell that Raw was suffering from a "We're nearly out of time we're allowed do this" situation.

WWE have, in my opinion, done the best they could with a really bad hand of cards. I can't imagine we'll be getting much of anything new going forward for quite a while now either.

I disagree. They should have shut down when everything else did and treat their performers with respect. The Undertaker thing aside this has been a shambles and they are now offering a far less entertaining version of NWA Power. With a ****load more ads.

They have an unbelievable back catalogue and some of the best video producers in the TV business. Use them.

Loughc

2ndcoming wrote: »

Sweet jebus just watched that. Let them go home Vince you absolute nutjob.

Yep mania was ideal spot to take a break. They could have ended the whole thing on an angle If they needed. And teased it out online until they’re ready to comeback live and in front of a live audience.

Chuck Noland

Loughc wrote: »

Yep mania was ideal spot to take a break. They could have ended the whole thing on an angle If they needed. And teased it out online until they’re ready to comeback live and in front of a live audience.

I’m not disagreeing but curious as to how they would finish it? This is the company who blew up a limo and the person survived. Again now I’m just wondering how you’d end it?

CastorTroy

To be fair, the limo thing happened just before the Benoit murder/suicide so the outcome for that wasn't their fault.

They could have the hacker guy take control of programming and hold it ransom. Have updates on what's happening via the website or social media.

Was thinking it's mad that at this point, Lana has probably been in more matches than Zelina.

JP Liz V1

PTH2009 wrote: »

Big show is back as a heel I think

He has a comedy coming on Netflix, he'll be face again soon

Chuck Noland

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

He has a comedy coming on Netflix, he'll be face again soon

It’s out an all

Loughc

Chuck Noland wrote: »

I’m not disagreeing but curious as to how they would finish it? This is the company who blew up a limo and the person survived. Again now I’m just wondering how you’d end it?

Shane finally returns... with the lockbox :pac:

Maybe have HHH attack Drew at the end of mania and have HHH backed up by NXT wrestlers and go this is NXT’s house and as long as I’m in charge of NXT you’re not welcomed here. Then have the NXT stars destroy the Mania set destroy cameras etc and just fade to black.

Honestly no idea how’d you do it. But they should have viewed it as a season finale that you leave on a cliffhanger.

Chuck Noland

Loughc wrote: »

Shane finally returns... with the lockbox :pac:

Maybe have HHH attack Drew at the end of mania and have HHH backed up by NXT wrestlers and go this is NXT’s house and as long as I’m in charge of NXT you’re not welcomed here. Then have the NXT stars destroy the Mania set destroy cameras etc and just fade to black.

Honestly no idea how’d you do it. But they should have viewed it as a season finale that you leave on a cliffhanger.

Ya maybe the lads they were looking to call up ala nexus but I guess they had enough on their plate just getting too mania

The White Wolf

Big Show....Nia Jax....Good god. Coronavirus is just relentless in the punishment.

CastorTroy

Not forgetting we had Tamina at Mania

PTH2009

Also 3 matches with the same people involved