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Omackeral

sky88 wrote: »

double champ

That’s a funny way to spell triple

CastorTroy

Don't know why Beck's pregnancy is making the headlines. The biggest news was the return of The Iiconics!


I like to think it's not Drew beating him that broke Seth, but that he just found out the news when Becky announced it.

I like that they did the title change that way. Plus Asuka going all crazy happy celebrating is a good thing. And at least we know Kairi is still there.

I actually liked the Raiders/Profits more than I expected, especially the post match.

So Zelina's group bully the non Latino member?

Itssoeasy

They handled the Becky announcement well and it's nice to have good news and Becky seems like such a nice person so it was good. Also, just from watching Beckys announcement I wonder did they tell asuka there was an announcement regarding her winning the briefcase but not exactly why ? I just say that considering asukas reaction to Becky saying she was pregnant. I could be wrong though.

J. Marston

Becky and Roman gone. Becky, for at least 18 months/2 years presumably and that's if she's coming back at all. Roman, who knows when he'll be back.

Two colossal losses for WWE. They were the full-time faces of the company.

Agent Coulson

I will Vince punish Seth for knocking up his biggest star.

Agent Coulson

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I will Vince punish Seth for knocking up his biggest star.

Vincent needs all the star power he can get. I think his pockets will speak louder than his pettiness.

Itssoeasy

So Dave meltzer was talking about Becky announcing she's pregnant and for an announcement that has been received very well and lots of people are very happy, he decided to take issue with the statement about asuka being the best wrestler in the world he just couldn't help himself. He couldn't just let the moment happen.

The Ayatolla

I'd doubt WWE would send any performers out to the ring, in a taped show, without knowing what they're going to do or tell them how they should react.

sky88

Itssoeasy wrote: »

So Dave meltzer was talking about Becky announcing she's pregnant and for an announcement that has been received very well and lots of people are very happy, he decided to take issue with the statement about asuka being the best wrestler in the world he just couldn't help himself. He couldn't just let the moment happen.

calling someone or yourself the best wrestler in the world really seems to wind people up if you don't agree when lets face it its just opinion

J. Marston

Itssoeasy wrote: »

So Dave meltzer was talking about Becky announcing she's pregnant and for an announcement that has been received very well and lots of people are very happy, he decided to take issue with the statement about asuka being the best wrestler in the world he just couldn't help himself. He couldn't just let the moment happen.

I look at MMA as a casual fan and see their main journalist, Ariel Helwani, who seems like a nice guy and is widely respected.

Then you look Meltzer in pro wrestling and all he sows is bitterness and division. He's a fúcking arsehole.

The Ayatolla wrote: »

I'd doubt WWE would send any performers out to the ring, in a taped show, without knowing what they're going to do or tell them how they should react.

I agree although they may have told her all the plot points but just not what Becky was actually going to announce right at the end and let that be natural.

Itssoeasy

sky88 wrote: »

calling someone or yourself the best wrestler in the world really seems to wind people up if you don't agree when lets face it its just opinion

I mean it was probably something Becky said in the moment and asuka isn't an awful wrestler who is being called an all time great. It's a very annoying thing meltzer does. You'd swear Becky said it under oath.

JP Liz V1

J. Marston wrote: »

Becky and Roman gone. Becky, for at least 18 months/2 years presumably and that's if she's coming back at all. Roman, who knows when he'll be back.

Two colossal losses for WWE. They were the full-time faces of the company.

What diva could step up and take Becky's place as top face diva, Lacey?

Omackeral

Who says diva anymore?!

Itssoeasy

The loss of top stars for various lengths of time with Becky obviously being the longest definite absence, with Roman being gone for however long he's gone and Seth probably the same although I can see him staying on TV for a bit longer as Becky isn't due until December this year so maybe he stays around. But either way WWE are going to have to elevate some people.

JP Liz V1

Omackeral wrote: »

Who says diva anymore?!

Sorry Female Wrestling Superstar is it I think WWE has still quite a few divas both male and female

The White Wolf

The Ayatolla wrote: »

Yeah it was good having the belt in the actual briefcase.

Becky's crying did look a bit staged and a bit out of sync with having no live crowd, but whatever. Best of luck to her.

Nothing freaks me out more than sobbing without a tear in sight.

PTH2009

Poor Rey is always used for these 'scumbag malicious attacks'

Why did the ref stop the match?

CastorTroy

Was wondering that as well. Think it's one of the times they decided to use the illegal interference rule

PTH2009

So were all to think Edge is scared to face Orton in a straight up wrestling match

J. Marston

PTH2009 wrote: »

So were all to think Edge is scared to face Orton in a straight up wrestling match

And it may be the greatest match in wrestling history.

Charlie, you dope.

Deeper Blue

I'd like to see Edge vs Rollins or something else we haven't seen, I couldn't care less about seeing him against Orton again. I didn't care about their Mania match either although I did enjoy it

RollieFingers

Wait so Edge is going one on one with Orton? Last man standing match first, then a singles match after? That makes no sense.

connemara man

RollieFingers wrote: »

Wait so Edge is going one on one with Orton? Last man standing match first, then a singles match after? That makes no sense.

It's a reverse of most stories. Instead of ramping up to that you start there and let Orton go on about how you can't take me without bells and whistles. It's different and something that breaks the norm isn't bad

SMC92Ian

I'm so glad I cancelled BT, watching clips on YouTube makes me happy to save all that money. Abysmal shows. Such a shame.

"oooh let's have a singles match now, it'll be so much harder to beat me"

PTH2009

Jesus commical

Vince would never go this low but after all its Vince so feck knows

JP Liz V1

Corbin vs. Drew tonight

PTH2009

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Corbin vs. Drew tonight

exciting cant wait :rolleyes:

J. Marston

I find Charly Caruso very annoying and she seems to be a bigger presence on Raw these days which makes it worse.

PTH2009

Edge just accept the damn match

PTH2009

Humberto doesn't sound the way he looks

DM_7

I like the way RAW is going with the small roster.

Just good to see so many people get a chance to show what they have when they were largely lost in the pack before. Hopefully a few take their chance and can stay important down the line.

No Cena, No Becky, No Reigns - leaves space at top of the card but even further down people like Rusev going has left spaces down the card for people to work themselves into a good position.

Loughc

DM_7 wrote: »

I like the way RAW is going with the small roster.

Just good to see so many people get a chance to show what they have when they were largely lost in the pack before. Hopefully a few take their chance and can stay important down the line.

No Cena, No Becky, No Reigns - leaves space at top of the card but even further down people like Rusev going has left spaces down the card for people to work themselves into a good position.

One of the main things I don't like is how the Main Event scene has nothing going for it, so far McIntyre's challengers have been, an one off Big Show appearance, a Seth Rollins who just came fresh off a loss from KO at Mania and now Bobby Lashley who's been bland, boring and stuck in terrible programmes since he's come back but now we're meant to believe he's number 1 contender material.

Show is gone again, Rollins is back recruiting mid-card fodder as his lackeys but has taken 2 serious back to back defeats now is barely a threat, and when Lashley losses he'll go back to the bottom of the pile again. It's like 1995/96 when they had the champ going up against the placeholder top heel of the month to challenge the champion and nothing more will come of it.

Once again they've stilted Kevin Owens run, beats Rollins at Mania comes back from injury and he's hosting the KO Show and teaming with Smiley Smiley Apollo Crews.

WWE's complete lack of creating stars and giving everything to Reigns and Lesnar has really hurt them and now it's showing badly.

DM_7

Loughc wrote: »

One of the main things I don't like is how the Main Event scene has nothing going for it, so far McIntyre's challengers have been, an one off Big Show appearance, a Seth Rollins who just came fresh off a loss from KO at Mania and now Bobby Lashley who's been bland, boring and stuck in terrible programmes since he's come back but now we're meant to believe he's number 1 contender material.

Show is gone again, Rollins is back recruiting mid-card fodder as his lackeys but has taken 2 serious back to back defeats now is barely a threat, and when Lashley losses he'll go back to the bottom of the pile again. It's like 1995/96 when they had the champ going up against the placeholder top heel of the month to challenge the champion and nothing more will come of it.

Once again they've stilted Kevin Owens run, beats Rollins at Mania comes back from injury and he's hosting the KO Show and teaming with Smiley Smiley Apollo Crews.

WWE's complete lack of creating stars and giving everything to Reigns and Lesnar has really hurt them and now it's showing badly.

I get why others don't like it. Your last piece could be put on the end of nearly every post in the forum.

I just like what they are doing in the context of it is a tv show only right now. Bobby Lashley is more actor right now than wrestler trying to connect with people in the crowd. Like it or not the big, fast, powerful guys like him look the part for tv and they can be used very well as an on screen only performer.

The great and needed connection with the fans in seats is key in wrestling. They have no fans so it is not about people who the fans are going to pop for, boo or whatever.

It is very much tv show booking right now and that is all it should be, without a crowd, with a reduced roster it is a changed environment. This is a great time to repackage an Apollo or Lashley and get people used to seeing them as important on a temporary basis or over a longer period when fans come back into equation.

That is why I like what they are doing as, on a tv show, it is about writing people to be important and less about the connection with fans that is normally so important.

Loughc

DM_7 wrote: »

I get why others don't like it. Your last piece could be put on the end of nearly every post in the forum.

I just like what they are doing in the context of it is a tv show only right now. Bobby Lashley is more actor right now than wrestler trying to connect with people in the crowd. Like it or not the big, fast, powerful guys like him look the part for tv and they can be used very well as an on screen only performer.

The great and needed connection with the fans in seats is key in wrestling. They have no fans so it is not about people who the fans are going to pop for, boo or whatever.

It is very much tv show booking right now and that is all it should be, without a crowd, with a reduced roster it is a changed environment. This is a great time to repackage an Apollo or Lashley and get people used to seeing them as important on a temporary basis or over a longer period when fans come back into equation.

That is why I like what they are doing as, on a tv show, it is about writing people to be important and less about the connection with fans that is normally so important.

I should make it clear, it's not all bad, I've think they've done a great job with the mid-card/undercard lately. It feels like there's plenty of storylines going on for people outside the main event.

I just feel the Main Event is grim at the moment and it will be the catalyst for them taking the belt off Drew going oh well we tried.

CastorTroy

Hope they don't split the IIconics. That was pointless with the slap. Hugging afterwards was even worse.
After she was disqualified, did Peyton say "I'm too old for this s#!t"?

I know they like hyping stuff up, but why would anyone believe Orton/Edge can have the greatest wrestling match ever? Even within a week of a match featuring Bryan and Gulak?

J. Marston

If they do break them up Billie should get the push. She's the entertaining one.

CastorTroy

As much as I like her, her voice would go through you after a while if met her in real life.

PTH2009

Orton actually came out better in last night's promo with Edge

Edge saying the usual brave waffle

Orton to win this match making it 1-1 with the final match been at Summerslam

J. Marston

CastorTroy wrote: »

As much as I like her, her voice would go through you after a while if met her in real life.

Speaking of voices that would go through you, please keep Liv Morgan away from a mic for eternity. Her voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me.

CastorTroy

Looked like Liv was taking advice from Dana for her lips.
Where are they going with the Nattie thing? Hopefully away from tv.

So Seth recruits Theory the same way he got Murphy. Just talk to him up when he didn't go to the back.
Did enjoy the Profits/Vikings bit again.

The White Feather

Raw rating was 1.757 million

Thought it was a poor enough one. I had enjoyed the last few though.

RollieFingers

The White Feather wrote: »

Raw rating was 1.757 million

Thought it was a poor enough one. I had enjoyed the last few though.

Needs more Corbin!

Lord TSC

Seems to be chatter that WWE will be following AEW's lead, and putting some lower level wrestlers and developmental talent around ringside tonight as an "audience".

PTH2009

Lord TSC wrote: »

Seems to be chatter that WWE will be following AEW's lead, and putting some lower level wrestlers and developmental talent around ringside tonight as an "audience".

:o:o

could be gold or a shambles

Agent Coulson

What the gold standard copying something from the drizzling ****s AEW never

J. Marston

Agent Coulson wrote: »

What the gold standard copying something from the drizzling ****s AEW never

This might hold more water if AEW didn't do a cinematic match, an MITB match and had Mike Tyson on PPV two days ago.

Itssoeasy

CastorTroy wrote: »

As much as I like her, her voice would go through you after a while if met her in real life.

I've listened a few interviews and her voice isn't actually as loud in real life. It's obviously exaggerated for TV. A good thing is that even in interviews she is still very funny just not as loud.

RollieFingers

J. Marston wrote: »

This might hold more water if AEW didn't do a cinematic match, an MITB match and had Mike Tyson on PPV two days ago.

AEW had a MITB match?

bennyl10

J. Marston wrote: »

This might hold more water if AEW didn't do a cinematic match, an MITB match and had Mike Tyson on PPV two days ago.

They had a ladder match,

it was not a money in the bank match, even if it was a MItb match(which it wasn’t) that concept was Jerichos idea

Wwe don’t own, nor did they invent cinematic matches.

Fanboys gonna fan boy

Agent Coulson

J. Marston wrote: »

This might hold more water if AEW didn't do a cinematic match, an MITB match and had Mike Tyson on PPV two days ago.

You mean TNA/Lucha Undergrounds cinematic matches and You mean the Stampede Wrestling Ladder matches for title shots and NJPW using The greatest of all time Ali.