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Jerichoholic · 07-02-2017 10:24pm

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Oh ****, where'd you see that?

That's the only way to do it to be fair.

lycan238 · 07-02-2017 10:35pm

just watching raw now. a bit meh so far. I like Joe though so main event should be whatever is just above meh. Right now there is nothing making me stay up to watch WM to be fair. I hope they prove me wrong otherwise its get up early prob 6am and watch it then.

Lithium93_ · 07-02-2017 10:46pm

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Oh ****, where'd you see that?

Was on Reddit's Squared Circle a few hours ago.

SureYWouldntYa · 07-02-2017 11:13pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Was on Reddit's Squared Circle a few hours ago.

There's burials and then there's that

He might not have had the best of runs but he still deserves better than that, part of the reason Brock lost so quickly to Goldberg at Survivor Series was that he didn't take him seriously

No reason an up for a fight KO wouldn't be able to last 7-10 minutes, you can still have Goldberg win somewhat convincingly but how does KO come back from that, an already limp run ended in a heartbeat

CastorTroy · 07-02-2017 11:15pm

Would like a proper match which leads Brock into wondering what he's doing wrong. Plus would make Owens look good going a long time against the guy who squashed Brock

Mr.Nice Guy · 08-02-2017 12:44am

I think a lengthy match would be a disaster. The WWE run Goldberg had in '03-'04 was poor precisely because WWE changed the formula that had worked in WCW - whoop ass quickly. The only time they got Goldberg right was in the Chamber match but then Super Hunter, injured leg and all, had to ruin it by getting the win via a sledgehammer.

The Goldberg vs Owens match needs to be quick and explosive. It doesn't necessarily have to be a burial for Owens. I expect outside interference in some fashion.

Lithium93_ · 08-02-2017 12:47am

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I think a lengthy match would be a disaster. The WWE run Goldberg had in '03-'04 was poor precisely because WWE changed the formula that had worked in WCW - whoop ass quickly. The only time they got Goldberg right was in the Chamber match but then Super Hunter, injured leg and all, had to ruin it by getting the win via a sledgehammer.

The Goldberg vs Owens match needs to be quick and explosive. It doesn't necessarily have to be a burial for Owens. I expect outside interference in some fashion.

Brock's music to hit, distract Goldberg, allowing Jericho to run shenanigans, Owens steal a win.

Jerichoholic · 08-02-2017 12:59am

Nah, you need Goldberg really strong going to Mania. 30 seconds to kill Owens. I'm worried now that Roman will be the one to beat Goldberg for the belt, that would be be horrible.

CastorTroy · 08-02-2017 1:07am

I didn't mean a long match, but one that Owens at least gets some offence in that Goldberg actually sells before a spear outta nowhere.

magnumbud · 08-02-2017 9:56am

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I think a lengthy match would be a disaster. The WWE run Goldberg had in '03-'04 was poor precisely because WWE changed the formula that had worked in WCW - whoop ass quickly. The only time they got Goldberg right was in the Chamber match but then Super Hunter, injured leg and all, had to ruin it by getting the win via a sledgehammer.

The Goldberg vs Owens match needs to be quick and explosive. It doesn't necessarily have to be a burial for Owens. I expect outside interference in some fashion.

how exactly is that good for anyone? this part time has been burys owens who is there 24/7 and is the future of the business. and the wwe and "super hunter"didnt ruin him they just ended up highlighting how poor the guy was. if he cared for the industry at all he would have learned more than 3 moves. i mean people slam roman reigns but at least he can put on a decent match, such as with rollins, styles and owens, goldberg couldn't put on a decent match in wcw and sure as hell cant put one on now. i didnt really care for this rematch let alone to see it again they need to sure as hell not put the belt on this farce of a match.

goldberg still looks strong if he has to cheat to beat goldberg just dont use something stupid like a cattle prod and then lay down for y2j :pac:

sky88 · 08-02-2017 10:38am

i think theyll do the title switch at fastlane i dont agree with it but if i was doing it have it a no dq match have jericho and ownes double team goldberg for the match. Jericho hits owens with steel chair by accident spear jackhammer from goldberg to win.

Next night on raw have owens viciously attack jericho and you have there match at mania.

beakerjoe · 08-02-2017 12:17pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Brock's music to hit, distract Goldberg, allowing Jericho to run shenanigans, Owens steal a win.

Theres no logic to that, Brock would be better off hoping for a Goldberg win so he can meet Goldberg for the title.

But I agree Jericho will run in and cause chaos and eat a spear for his troubles.

magnumbud · 08-02-2017 12:43pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

Theres no logic to that, Brock would be better off hoping for a Goldberg win so he can meet Goldberg for the title.

But I agree Jericho will run in and cause chaos and eat a spear for his troubles.

brock is facing owens at an event in MSG the week after which is scheduled for the title and also rumored to be a wwe network special like road block was last year in theory, i dont have faith this will happen, lesnar costs goldberg the title so that he can win it off owens himself and thus leading to goldberg taking revenge a week later. y2j accepting the goldberg match, and could also have him accept the lesnar match, could lead to owens losing it at him after barely scraping by both with the title leads to then have the best friends face each other with y2j losing the us title at some point prior to it. that for me is a far better pay off than the obvious the title going anywhere near those 2 part timers.

EDIT: have owens accept a challenge from someone for y2j for the us title which y2j ends up losing say rusev? Big E? or even Cass?

Mr.Nice Guy · 08-02-2017 7:04pm

magnumbud wrote: »

how exactly is that good for anyone? this part time has been burys owens who is there 24/7 and is the future of the business.

Such a has-been that he gets a superstar reaction that 95% of the roster don't get. I don't know if Owens is the future of the business - I doubt it - but right now he's a comedy act.

magnumbud wrote:

and the wwe and "super hunter"didnt ruin him they just ended up highlighting how poor the guy was.

No, they ruined him. He is more over in WWE now at fifty because they finally decided to book the guy properly. They could have had this Goldberg a decade ago and at a better age.

magnumbud wrote:

if he cared for the industry at all he would have learned more than 3 moves.

The number of moves he uses is irrelevant. If he uses 3 moves and the fans lose their minds over those moves and want to pay money to see those 3 moves then that makes him a bigger deal than 95% of the roster.

magnumbud · 08-02-2017 8:16pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

The number of moves he uses is irrelevant. If he uses 3 moves and the fans lose their minds over those moves and want to pay money to see those 3 moves then that makes him a bigger deal than 95% of the roster.

i'd rather the matches like styles vs cena, omega vs okada, balor vs rollins than that farce at survivor series match

demanufactured · 08-02-2017 8:38pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Such a has-been that he gets a superstar reaction that 95% of the roster don't get. I don't know if Owens is the future of the business - I doubt it - but right now he's a comedy act.

No, they ruined him. He is more over in WWE now at fifty because they finally decided to book the guy properly. They could have had this Goldberg a decade ago and at a better age.

The number of moves he uses is irrelevant. If he uses 3 moves and the fans lose their minds over those moves and want to pay money to see those 3 moves then that makes him a bigger deal than 95% of the roster.

He also knows a he'll of a lot more than 3 moves.
He's told to go out there and have 90 second matches.

He has some amazing power moves and submission holds.

magnumbud · 08-02-2017 8:50pm

demanufactured wrote: »

He also knows a he'll of a lot more than 3 moves.
He's told to go out there and have 90 second matches.

He has some amazing power moves and submission holds.

an amazing boot too, just ask bret hart

ERG89 · 08-02-2017 8:51pm

magnumbud wrote: »

i'd rather the matches like styles vs cena, omega vs okada, balor vs rollins than that farce at survivor series match

Then you won't be watching WrestleMania I take it?
Of course you will.

magnumbud · 08-02-2017 9:02pm

ERG89 wrote: »

Then you won't be watching WrestleMania I take it?
Of course you will.

where did you get that idea from did i say i wouldn't? i just wont waste my time watching that farce

ERG89 · 08-02-2017 9:23pm

magnumbud wrote: »

where did you get that idea from did i say i wouldn't? i just wont waste my time watching that farce

Your whinging about the match & saying you won't watch it. Wrestling isn't all 5 star matches & just cause you say you won't watch it doesn't mean nobody else will watch it. It's going to main event for a reason. Can't say I'm bowled over the card but I'll watch that as it'll be short & sweet on a 8 hour card or however long it is.

magnumbud · 08-02-2017 9:33pm

ERG89 wrote: »

Your whinging about the match & saying you won't watch it. Wrestling isn't all 5 star matches & just cause you say you won't watch it doesn't mean nobody else will watch it. It's going to main event for a reason. Can't say I'm bowled over the card but I'll watch that as it'll be short & sweet on a 8 hour card or however long it is.

not expecting every match to be a 5 star match but not interested in 1 star match.

demanufactured · 11-02-2017 2:27am

magnumbud wrote: »

an amazing boot too, just ask bret hart

Yeah I love it.

CSF · 11-02-2017 12:49pm

Burying one of your biggest full time stars to make an already insanely strong looking part time star look stronger is so WWE that it's definitely happening.

Lithium93_ · 13-02-2017 7:28pm

That time of the bastard week again.. Here's this weeks preview

Bayley to battle Charlotte Flair once more for the Raw Women’s Championship

Kevin Owens and Chris Jericho to hold WWE’s first-ever “Festival of Friendship”

Will Strowman’s rampage continue?

Emmalina makes her debut

Are Enzo Amore & Big Cass in line for a Raw Tag Team Title opportunity?

Teddy Long

to be inducted into the WWE Hall Of Fame

Usual channel & time, the spoiler tags are intentional for those who want to be surpised/hopefully surprised.

thebostoncrab · 13-02-2017 7:31pm

I'm currently sitting in my hotel room across the road from the T Mobile arena, I cannot wait for tonight!

Lord TSC · 13-02-2017 10:30pm

Congratulations to Bayley for her title win.

J. Marston · 13-02-2017 10:35pm

Odds on Emmalina's debut being postponed? Highly likely.

Agent Coulson · 13-02-2017 10:57pm

Expect a load of tag team matches tonight

sky88 · 13-02-2017 11:16pm

Feel like Sasha turns heel on bayley tonight fatal 4 way at mania with Charlotte and nia.

Bayley the ultimate underdog overcomes the odds at mania.

magnumbud · 14-02-2017 12:02am

sky88 wrote: »

Feel like Sasha turns heel on bayley tonight fatal 4 way at mania with Charlotte and nia.

Bayley the ultimate underdog overcomes the odds at mania.

Seems the way its going but really think 1 on 1 vs Charlotte is a better story Sasha attacks her raw after mania leading to sashas win 2 years after their amazing nxt takerover Brooklyn match. Theres some amount of money in those 3

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