RAW Superthread

Lithium93_

PTH2009 wrote: »

will u be watching the Xmas night/Stephens day morning edition of Raw which is a live episode (vince really doesnt want his stars to have a life) ???

dont really do much xmas night so prob will watch it myself, im expecting something major to happen as its a bigish deal

Skip it one night a year, and go out Christmas drinking. You won't miss much.

Pentecost

He’d be doing well to go out drinking on Christmas night in Ireland. Not to say he couldn’t stay in drinking. In fact that’s probably advisable before watching Raw that night.

ERG89

Loughc wrote:

I expect a street fight on 34th street tho.

Good Santa vs Bad Santa 2, a MizTV Christmas Special, guaranteed sh*t match with the morons on Southpaw wrestling, long multi-man cruiserweight match, Mick Foley dressing up as Santa with his fame hungry daughter & a secret Santa segment.
Can't wait, your move Smackdown. :rolleyes:

PTH2009

ERG89 wrote: »

Good Santa vs Bad Santa 2, a MizTV Christmas Special, guaranteed sh*t match with the morons on Southpaw wrestling, long multi-man cruiserweight match, Mick Foley dressing up as Santa with his fame hungry daughter & a secret Santa segment.
Can't wait, your move Smackdown. :rolleyes:

we can't forget the pointless backstage party segment

PTH2009

ERG89 wrote: »

Good Santa vs Bad Santa 2, a MizTV Christmas Special, guaranteed sh*t match with the morons on Southpaw wrestling, long multi-man cruiserweight match, Mick Foley dressing up as Santa with his fame hungry daughter & a secret Santa segment.
Can't wait, your move Smackdown. :rolleyes:

we can't forget the pointless backstage party segment

Rjd2

Loughc wrote: »

Yep it’s going to be bad I doubt anything memorable will happen. It’s goung to be very missable.

I expect a street fight on 34th street tho.

Probably a dud as most Raws are these days.

However they had a cracking episode a few years on Xmas eve where Del Rio ran down Santa and wrestled Cena on a miracle on 34th match. Everyone hammed the hell out of it that night especially Cena and ADR who somehow managed to keep straight faces, sadly it was a one off as xmas shows since then have been dire.

Mr. Guappa

Just a heads up for anyone who has Raw and Smackdown on a Sky series link. They've changed channel this week and the series link hasn't carried over.

Mr. Guappa

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

Just a heads up for anyone who has Raw and Smackdown on a Sky series link. They've changed channel this week and the series link hasn't carried over.

Good spot mate, cheers.

It's the same for Smackdown tomorrow night. 408 has become Sky Darts for a few weeks while the darts world championship is on.

Kankan14

F**k sake lads why did ye tell me.

I'd have got so much more entertainment out of the watching the darts

Agent Coulson

Every time I see Angle in the ring standing like that it kind of scares me that he really isn’t healthy enough to be there.

Jerichoholic

Woman's Royal Rumble announced in the worst segment of all time.

HandsomeBob

Oul Steph can't help herself.

That's why I can't stand Stephanie McMahon. You can't have it both ways. Being a heel and making everyone look like an idiot most of the time but then makes these announcements in a babyface fashion.

Looking to get the yes chant going aswell :rolleyes:

Angron

She's by far the worst of the McMahons.

J. Marston

She's the worst authority figure ever. Worse than Adamle, worse than any guest host and worse than that fúcking laptop.

The Nal

Angron wrote: »

She's by far the worst of the McMahons.

That would be Linda.

Anyone, male or female, who sells a stunner like this shouldn't be on telly.

ERG89

The Nal wrote: »

That would be Linda.

Anyone, male or female, who sells a stunner like this shouldn't be on telly.

Anyone?? :P

Angron

The Nal wrote: »

That would be Linda.

Anyone, male or female, who sells a stunner like this shouldn't be on telly.

At least Linda has the decency to not appear too often, so her ****tiness is fairly contained. Can't remember the last time she was on TV.

ERG89

Angron wrote:

At least Linda has the decency to not appear too often, so her ****tiness is fairly contained. Can't remember the last time she was on TV.

When she does she doesn't wear big high heels to tower over women or completely emasculate others with the audience knowing that there won't be any comeuppance for her actions.
Linda you get strange, almost alien acting & deadpan delivery like she is reading death notices on the radio.

SlickRic

Steph can fúck off. What business does she have announcing that? She's a heel authority figure. Just let Kurt do it, for the love of Christ. You don't have to keep trying to take credit for the 'Women's Revolution'. Just fúck off away from my screen.

Matt Hardy annoyed me again. He's now just a weird guy.

Kane in the Main Event of the Royal Rumble just makes me want to cry. I get that someone has to take the pin, but I'm done with him. in 2017, we still have a company obsessed with getting big guys in the ring, and they think this is the best show they can put on last.

DM_7

Back in the day, before Regal got done for drugs, he was a great Authority figure on RAW. Someone who was believably in charge without the McMahon name.

Wish they went back to that.

Lord TSC

SlickRic wrote: »

Kane in the Main Event of the Royal Rumble just makes me want to cry. I get that someone has to take the pin, but I'm done with him. in 2017, we still have a company obsessed with getting big guys in the ring, and they think this is the best show they can put on last.

On that, the Rumble is THE main event. They have a habit of having lesser matches for the titles on the Rumble, and I've no issues with Kane there IF he is there to take a pinfall and protect Strowman.

The Steph thing, particularly begging the crowd to start chanting YES, is just....ugh.

I'm hoping we get Heath Slater back with a storyline. He always amuses me when they bother to give him something to do.

Revival back, YEAY! No entrance, boo

Hideo debuting to help Finn outside of the 205 division was surprising, but I thought he looked really good in the match. Him and Finn together as a team could actually give Finn some direction.

sky88

i think finn is waiting on miz to get back to feud with him as it only really makes sense to why hes beating bo and axel each week

Jerichoholic

The Nal wrote: »

That would be Linda.

Anyone, male or female, who sells a stunner like this shouldn't be on telly.

Linda didn't make people stop watching when she came on screen.

The Nal

SlickRic wrote: »

Kane in the Main Event of the Royal Rumble just makes me want to cry. I get that someone has to take the pin, but I'm done with him. in 2017, we still have a company obsessed with getting big guys in the ring, and they think this is the best show they can put on last.

Done with Strowman as a main eventer too. Still just a big angry guy, same character we've had since the 1950s, already lost easily to Lesnar aswell.

Lord TSC

I wonder how big the women's Rumble will be. I'm guessing 20 women between the two brands, NXT and surprise returns? Between that and the men's Rumble, that's two thirds of the show booked anyway.

sky88

they could feel the 30 spots with the nxt women and a few surprises id say they will be throwing money at awesome kong with the GLOW connection and the standoff with nia jax

J. Marston

Stat someone posted on Reddit...

In the past five months, Seth Rollins has fought Cesaro or Sheamus on 78% of televised Raw events.

Going back to the Raw of July 31, there have been 23 Raw events. This includes SummerSlam, No Mercy, TLC, Survivor Series, and Tribute for Troops.

Seth Rollins has fought Cesaro or Sheamus on 18 of these shows.

Feud has been beaten to death.

Loughc

J. Marston wrote: »

Stat someone posted on Reddit...

Feud has been beaten to death.

Shows how little they have storyline wise for anyone who isn’t Roman or a McMahon.

The Nal

Loughc wrote: »

Shows how little they have storyline wise for anyone who isn’t Roman or a McMahon.

The characters haven't changed in years, decades in cases. Rollins, Ambrose, Reigns, Sheamus, Cesaro, Cena, Strowman, Orton, Finn, Miz etc have been the same character forever, outside of the odd heel turn.

Any of the greats - Austin, Hogan, Rock, HBK, HHH, Bret, Taker, Sting, Hall, Nash etc all changed characters somewhat at some stage.

And more importantly were allowed to cut their own promos to some degree which impacted the character. What we've been seeing over the last decade is the equivalent of the XFactor winner. Heres a song, sing it and shut up.

Rjd2

The Nal wrote: »

The characters haven't changed in years, decades in cases. Rollins, Ambrose, Reigns, Sheamus, Cesaro, Cena, Strowman, Orton, Finn, Miz etc have been the same character forever, outside of the odd heel turn.

Any of the greats - Austin, Hogan, Rock, HBK, HHH, Bret, Taker, Sting, Hall, Nash etc all changed characters somewhat at some stage.

And more importantly were allowed to cut their own promos to some degree which impacted the character. What we've been seeing over the last decade is the equivalent of the XFactor winner. Heres a song, sing it and shut up.

Not sure if this post is fair tbh.

Orton recently has grown his hair out. :eek::p

The Nal

Rjd2 wrote: »

Not sure if this post is fair tbh.

Orton recently has grown his hair out. :eek::p

Biggest booking decision of 2017.

Itssoeasy

Lord TSC wrote: »

I wonder how big the women's Rumble will be. I'm guessing 20 women between the two brands, NXT and surprise returns? Between that and the men's Rumble, that's two thirds of the show booked anyway.

Well it looks like it's 22 as that's how many were on the poster Becky lynch posted on her Instagram story(the one that is only up for 24 hours) and it looked fairly official looking.

It had the usual suspects and four extras which are Nikki Bella, peyton Royce, billy kay, and Ronda rousey on it

The Nal

This womens rumble is 100% a vehicle for Ronda to make her debut as the last participant.

HandsomeBob

The Nal wrote: »

This womens rumble is 100% a vehicle for Ronda to make her debut as the last participant.

Not sure if Steph contradicted this but the rumour was that they'd all start at the same time in the ring. Wouldn't think many would get an entrance in that scenario.

Jerichoholic

Rhonda is 100% the only slightly interesting thing about it. We've all seen women's battle royals before, they are inhumanly awful.

Jerichoholic

HandsomeBob wrote: »

Not sure if Steph contradicted this but the rumour was that they'd all start at the same time in the ring. Wouldn't think many would get an entrance in that scenario.

So it's a Battle Royal then, not a Royal Rumble.

Furious-Red

Jerichoholic wrote: »

So it's a Battle Royal then, not a Royal Rumble.

Yea was thinking that , Most big battle royals are always clunky as **** up until the last 5 or 6 because there is just no room for everyone which takes away from the match itself.

HandsomeBob

I imagine there will be two lots of mass dumpings; at the beginning and then towards the end, giving the last 6/7 a decent 10 minutes.

Would be surprised if the whole thing goes beyond 20 mins.

Agent Coulson

J. Marston wrote: »

Stat someone posted on Reddit...



Feud has been beaten to death.

Still not as bad as Sheamus and Orton 9000000 matches in a row.



Also is Finn going to end up in the 205's with KENTA?

hufpc8w3adnk65

Have a monster heel like Tamina dump people out left right and Centre then they’ll all team up on Tamina and take her out etc.

PTH2009

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Also is Finn going to end up in the 205's with KENTA?

nooo but they have too sell those 205 live event tickets and getting Finn on the bill could help ??

Jerichoholic

There's only 3 shows.

Agent Coulson

Dana Brooke stealing the Alexandra York gimmick by the looks of it.


Will we end up getting a Dana Invitational Tournament I wonder.

DM_7

Sheamus and Cesaro v Finn and Hideo.

Yes please.

Mr.Nice Guy

I felt bad for Itami that he got such a muted reaction. Reminded me of the time Carmella debuted to crickets. This wasn't quite that bad but it wasn't far off.

I like Kane being added to the triple threat match. It makes it a bit different and if it's kept short it can be a fun seven minutes or so of chaos. I assume Kane is there to take the pin so Strowman doesn't have to.

I like that they're doing a Rumble but there was no need for Stephanie to make the announcement. The whole storyline for Survivor Series was about how we all were supposed to want Kurt to stay for being a great GM. Have Kurt do the announcement and it helps raise his stock with the fans. Stephanie doing it was a waste as she will be back to being a heel soon enough. It's a pure ego stroke so she can be portrayed to the public as "empowering" women. it was painful watching them all standing there listening to her go on. I was half expecting some cheesy music to start in the background.

I've no worries about the match itself. I thought the women's battle royal on NXT a few weeks ago was very well done. Ronda winning is the way I would go as it will get a ton of publicity and you want the first one to be a big deal to get it over with the audience.

I much preferred Matt's promo this week compared to last. Maybe I'm alone in this but I also liked Bray's promo which is rare for me as I usually zone out for his stuff. I want to see something a bit fresh though going forward. The return of Reby, Senor Benjamin or Vanguard 1 would be welcome.

paulie21

What's for the winner of the Women's RR? Presumed a title shot but Alexa was there jumping around at the announcement like she'd be in the match

Agent Coulson

Becky to make a surprise return at it.

HandsomeBob

paulie21 wrote: »

What's for the winner of the Women's RR? Presumed a title shot but Alexa was there jumping around at the announcement like she'd be in the match

I imagine they were all told to fangirl over Stephanie's announcement.

J. Marston

Jerichoholic wrote: »

So it's a Battle Royal then, not a Royal Rumble.

Probably for the best. No-one wants to be stuck with something like Liv Morgan vs Dana Brooke for even a minute.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Becky to make a surprise return at it.

Think she'll make a surprise return but only to beat down and eliminate Riott squad. Hope she wins it though.