Journalism and cycling

Borderfox

He's more interested in other Ministers departments than his own

Kaisr Sose

ted1 wrote: »

What was a hit and run?

The incident you brought up that is not relevant to cycling or the cyclist/pedestrian incident....

tomasrojo

Borderfox wrote: »

He's more interested in other Ministers departments than his own

He hasn't turned out to be as bad in an active sense as he first appeared (e.g. the return to mandatory cycletrack use was abandoned, the mandatory hiviz for pedestrians that Troy tried to attach like a remora onto the Minimum Passing Distance initiative was rejected), but he neglected walking and cycling very, very badly.

Tourism and Sport being bundled in with Transport is pretty poor practice anyway, but he really seemed to regard Transport as the minor branch in that bundle, except for the drink-driving legislation and photo ops on the Green Line to bank for the next election.

Hurrache

magicbastarder wrote: »

shane ross doesn't come out well from this article:
Quixotic Shane Ross semi-detached from rest of Government

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/pat-leahy-quixotic-shane-ross-semi-detached-from-rest-of-government-1.3437900

He's the dictionary definition of a hurler from the ditch. Such a mouth on him when in opposition.

rubadub

RacoonQueen wrote: »

edit: from twitter one of the replies says pedestrian walked out.
https://twitter.com/PaulFedayn/status/976803634783637506

As there was no mention of the cyclist breaking a red light I wonder if the pedestrian was illegally breaking a red light.

But I reckon nothing about this will be mentioned, and many will remain ignorant of the fact that we even have "jaywalking" laws here.

I hate any busy red lights because of this, if there are 2 or more people at a pedestrian crossing it is like some of them think they have the right to break a red light if there is "only a single bike" coming towards them.

Corca Baiscinn

tomasrojo wrote: »

He hasn't turned out to be as bad in an active sense as he first appeared (e.g. the return to mandatory cycletrack use was abandoned, the mandatory hiviz for pedestrians that Troy tried to attach like a remora onto the Minimum Passing Distance initiative was rejected), but he neglected walking and cycling very, very badly.

Problem is though that afaik both of those need him to sign the relevant statutory instrument into law and he has signed neither yet. Ok, the MPDL was only announced a month ago but he has linked it to the Garda getting the enforcement sensors so heaven knows when that will happen. He's dragging his feet on the mandatory use and at this stage with an election likely within the next year someone needs to put the skids under him. Last thing we need is for yet another Minister for Transport to put his/her oar in.

RE MPD I'm in two minds re wisdom of putting him under pressure in public to sign SI. Thing is w ith media coverage when it was announced and current RSA ad campaign lots of drivers seem to think MPD is already law and are acting accordingly so I wouldn't like to disabuse them of that idea!

tomasrojo

Corca Baiscinn wrote: »

Problem is though that afaik both of those need him to sign the relevant statutory instrument into law and he has signed neither yet. Ok, the MPDL was only announced a month ago but he has linked it to the Garda getting the enforcement sensors so heaven knows when that will happen. He's dragging his feet on the mandatory use and at this stage with an election likely within the next year someone needs to put the skids under him. Last thing we need is for yet another Minister for Transport to put his/her oar in.

The thing about the mandatory use is, as it stands, given that he's now said on record that Varadkar's intention when he was in charge of Transport was to make cycletracks non-compulsory to use, that even without a new SI they are non-compulsory to use. In the event of ambiguity in wording, the intention of the minister is referred to. I don't think a new SI is needed at all.

tomasrojo

If Robert Troy becomes minister for Transport, we're in big trouble though.

magicbastarder

More fines issued to cyclists but not to drivers parking in cycle lanes
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/more-fines-issued-to-cyclists-but-not-to-drivers-parking-in-cycle-lanes-1.3449090

Time

magicbastarder wrote: »

More fines issued to cyclists but not to drivers parking in cycle lanes
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/more-fines-issued-to-cyclists-but-not-to-drivers-parking-in-cycle-lanes-1.3449090

Breaking a red light is always against the law, however there are plenty of circumstances where it is perfectly legal to park in a cycle lane. Whether that is right or wrong is another issue, but the red light issue is Black and White, so i't good to see enforcement of it.

Steoller

magicbastarder wrote: »

More fines issued to cyclists but not to drivers parking in cycle lanes
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/more-fines-issued-to-cyclists-but-not-to-drivers-parking-in-cycle-lanes-1.3449090

Poor 'I bike Dublin' getting short shift there. The piece makes it sound like they had one demo against cycle lane parking all year, when they were out every week.

ED E

Time wrote: »

Breaking a red light is always against the law, however there are plenty of circumstances where it is perfectly legal to park in a cycle lane. Whether that is right or wrong is another issue, but the red light issue is Black and White, so i't good to see enforcement of it.

The article is focused on Dublin, most solid white cycle lanes in the city are co-lo with Clearways for the same hours making it always a violation to park there.

Unfortunately even the clearway directly opposite a garda station is a fine place to park without a chance of receiving an FCPN.

tomasrojo

It's illegal to park in ANY cycle track bordered by an unbroken white line. That's a black-and-white issue, just like red-light breaking.

rubadub

Time wrote: »

Breaking a red light is always against the law, however there are plenty of circumstances where it is perfectly legal to park in a cycle lane.

I don't think "cycle lanes" exist in Irish law, there are "cycle tracks" and "cycleways" which have different rules.

I am not sure about (allegedly) broken down cars either.

Time

Not if the cycle lane has certain hours of operation, there are also allowances for passengers alighting etc...

Grassey

Time wrote: »

there are also allowances for passengers alighting etc...

Can you elaborate on the source for this? First I've heard of it.

The only 'alighting passengers' law I am aware of is where a cyclist cannot overtake a car on the left where car is stationary for the purpose of allowing a passenger to alight or board the vehicle, or is stationary for the purposes of loading or unloading.
(Part 3 of http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2012/si/332/made/en/print )

But, that doesn't mean a car can just lamp themselves up into a lane to unload or pick up/drop off passengers.

ED E

Time wrote: »

Not if the cycle lane has certain hours of operation, there are also allowances for passengers alighting etc...

A single yellow lane and a cycle lane are totally different things.

Weepsie

Grassey wrote: »

But, that doesn't mean a car can just lamp themselves up into a lane to unload or pick up/drop off passengers.

You're correct and some legislation explicitly says they cannot do this in some designated lanes, or even stop.

monument

Steoller wrote: »

Poor 'I bike Dublin' getting short shift there. The piece makes it sound like they had one demo against cycle lane parking all year, when they were out every week.

That is the gospel according to The Irish Times. If it wasn’t in the paper of record, it didn’t happen.

magicbastarder

quite a tenuous link to cycling, but how and ever.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/04/juli-briskman-cyclist-middle-finger-trump-photo-sues-employer

Fian

magicbastarder wrote: »

quite a tenuous link to cycling, but how and ever.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/04/juli-briskman-cyclist-middle-finger-trump-photo-sues-employer

Speaking of tenuous links to cycling:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/plan-to-close-merrion-gates-may-be-deferred-1.3450663

This article gives the distinct impression that the plan to close the merrion gates & CPO 35 properties is mainly for the purpose of installing a cycle path, rather than alleviating traffic and dart delays.

Doctor Bob

Fian wrote: »

Speaking of tenuous links to cycling:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/plan-to-close-merrion-gates-may-be-deferred-1.3450663

This article gives the distinct impression that the plan to close the merrion gates & CPO 35 properties is mainly for the purpose of installing a cycle path, rather than alleviating traffic and dart delays.

Is that not the S2S Southside/East Coast Trail that's being referred to? Hardly a tenuous link to cycling.

Arcade_Tryer

magicbastarder wrote: »

quite a tenuous link to cycling, but how and ever.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/04/juli-briskman-cyclist-middle-finger-trump-photo-sues-employer

Quite a strong link to NIMBYISM.

magicbastarder

not sure of the link, in that nimby usually refers to planning issues? or were you referring to the merrion gate story?

Thinkingaboutit

Fian wrote: »

Speaking of tenuous links to cycling:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/plan-to-close-merrion-gates-may-be-deferred-1.3450663

This article gives the distinct impression that the plan to close the merrion gates & CPO 35 properties is mainly for the purpose of installing a cycle path, rather than alleviating traffic and dart delays.

Someone will have to Talk to Joe about the harm the All Powerful Cycling Lobby plan to do to poor rale Dubliners....:pac:

Lumen

The scourge of dockless bicycles vehicles

https://slate.com/business/2018/04/astounding-photos-capture-graveyards-of-unused-dockless-vehicles-in-american-cities.html

magicbastarder

have you seen the photos of all the VWs which were returned by their owners, all parked up?

mr spuckler

not specifically cycling related but I found this an interesting tale of the impact that a fatal RTC can have on the motorist involved.

mr spuckler

and Justice Charleton involving cyclists in the disclosures tribunal :rolleyes:

https://twitter.com/SeanMJourno/status/983643837619982336

Kop Idol

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