Journalism and cycling

Tenzor07

BikeRacer wrote: »

The Journal comments on that story are absolutely toxic. By leaving victim blaming comments up like that are they not opening themselves (The Journal) up to the likes of a defamation lawsuit or similar?

If you look at all the views and numbers of comments on all and any cycling related articles in the Journo, it's massive and i'm sure they like it for the advertising clicks...

It's as bad as something George Hook would come up with if he posted on the Journo!

Lumen

eclipsechaser wrote: »

Does it misrepresent what the writer was saying?

Yes. Because the next sentence was: "Rush-hour traffic on many roads is relatively constant in both directions, minimising the opportunities to overtake safely, leading inevitably to increased congestion and risk of accident."

So he's not saying that he doesn't want to cross the white line to overtake (the overtaking aversion which we're all familiar with on Irish roads), he's saying that he can't overtake safely because there is constant oncoming traffic.

Apart from the "risk of accident bit", which can be interpreted several ways.

Pinch Flat

BikeRacer wrote: »

The Journal comments on that story are absolutely toxic. By leaving victim blaming comments up like that are they not opening themselves (The Journal) up to the likes of a defamation lawsuit or similar?

Same on the Indo. Looked this evening - 127 comments, virtually all of them blaming the cyclist. One comment - “hope the truck driver was ok” - got 35 likes.

Other stories with road collisions in the same publication raise hardly a comment. We really do have some peculiar attitudes towards cycling in this country. We’re heading down the same toxicity as the UK.

Rechuchote

Tenzor07 wrote: »

If you look at all the views and numbers of comments on all and any cycling related articles in the Journo, it's massive and i'm sure they like it for the advertising clicks...

It's as bad as something George Hook would come up with if he posted on the Journo!

The Journal's owners also own boards.ie…

Tenzor07

Rechuchote wrote: »

The Journal's owners also own boards.ie…

And the Dailymail?

magicbastarder

Pinch Flat wrote: »

BikeRacer wrote: »

The Journal comments on that story are absolutely toxic. By leaving victim blaming comments up like that are they not opening themselves (The Journal) up to the likes of a defamation lawsuit or similar?

Same on the Indo. Looked this evening - 127 comments, virtually all of them blaming the cyclist. One comment - “hope the truck driver was ok” - got 35 likes.

Didn't the indo remove the comment feature? Have they reinstated it?

Rechuchote

The multiple leg breaks suffered by the man riding his bicycle when the articulated truck hit him is the third serious injury to a cyclist on the Dublin quays in two months. Nyah-nyah comments by hoons should be moderated - they're leading to attitudes where we're endangered.

It's also not the kind of society we want to have, this constant sneering at others.

Pinch Flat

magicbastarder wrote: »

Didn't the indo remove the comment feature? Have they reinstated it?

You can still comment in the Indo via Facebook.

Weepsie

Bit in the Ticket today about Ciara Kelly's interview with the Mayor of Dublin and Ivan Yeate's interview with Robert Troy. It's after the Niall Boylan stuff.

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/katie-hopkins-s-only-talent-being-tiresome-and-repellent-at-the-same-time-1.3598333

Corca Baiscinn

Weepsie wrote: »

Bit in the Ticket today about Ciara Kelly's interview with the Mayor of Dublin and Ivan Yeate's interview with Robert Troy. It's after the Niall Boylan stuff.

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/katie-hopkins-s-only-talent-being-tiresome-and-repellent-at-the-same-time-1.3598333

Yea, it's Mck Heaney's radio review, he accuses several Newstalk presenters of cyclist- bashing but compliments Ciara Kelly re challenging Nial Ring. I had heard the C Kelly interview but not the Ivan Yates and that review burst my bubble as a day or two before that Yates had interviewed Barry Kenny and Ciaran Cuffe and it was great as they both promoted public transport and cycling without any baiting from the presenter but according to that review by Mick Heaney Yates was quickly back to his old tricks.

ted1

Just saw this : https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/battling-luas-tracks-i-got-on-my-bike-and-became-an-embattled-cyclist-37229619.html

Tbh I think it’s a well written article, fair play to the journalist.

Hungrycol

ted1 wrote: »

Just saw this : https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/battling-luas-tracks-i-got-on-my-bike-and-became-an-embattled-cyclist-37229619.html

Tbh I think it’s a well written article, fair play to the journalist.

Hee hee, I just wrote in Flame Rouge thread that I thought it wasn't great. I thought the perception of being brave and heroic to cycle in Dublin does little to encourage others.

Hurrache

Pat Kenny's slot today has an expert coming on at some point to talk about how thousands are risking life changing injuries daily because they're not wearing helmets.

magicbastarder

thousands in general, or thousands of cyclists, i wonder?

Hurrache

Fair point, don't think he explicitly mentioned their mode of transport!

Melodeon

It's coming up after the ad break now.
Someone from Brain Injury Ireland will be contributing.

buffalo

Melodeon wrote: »

It's coming up after the ad break now.
Someone from Brain Injury Ireland will be contributing.

I can't stand listening to those shows, but someone please text in and ask the BJI rep how many brain injuries are suffered by people in car crashes or in the home.

Chips Lovell

Alcohol is a factor in far more brain injuries than cycling. Do you think BJI would be urging people to wear drinking helmets? No, that would be silly....

Melodeon

Ah, it's Acquired Brain Injury Ireland.

rubadub

"Typically going to be your skull"

"is there a good part of the brain to damage, no"

FFS, fcuking moron.

EDIT: -brilliant to hear them talk about motorists acting differently around those with helmets.

CramCycle

rubadub wrote: »

EDIT: -brilliant to hear them talk about motorists acting differently around those with helmets.

Very quickly dismissed by Johnathan as a, well I don't do it (ie you don't notice if you do it), therefore, it doesn't actually happen.

Lumen

rubadub wrote: »

"is there a good part of the brain to damage, no"

Eh, yeah. There probably is.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/mind/samuel-bishops-rare-form-of-brain-damage-means-he-cant-stop-smiling/news-story/9b353ec37cd50578caf97133c81c51eb

Grassey

Not exactly today's news (but the missus sent it to me today). Gets ya right in the feels:

https://www.welovecycling.com/wide/2018/05/09/177-years-and-still-cycling-this-couple-finished-1000-miles-on-a-tandem/

Duckjob

Grassey wrote: »

Not exactly today's news (but the missus sent it to me today). Gets ya right in the feels:

https://www.welovecycling.com/wide/2018/05/09/177-years-and-still-cycling-this-couple-finished-1000-miles-on-a-tandem/

One word - Inspirational.

Cetyl Palmitate

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tour-de-france-2018-winner-geraint-thomas-cycling-helmets-compulsory-a8508561.html?amp

rubadub

Cetyl Palmitate wrote: »

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tour-de-france-2018-winner-geraint-thomas-cycling-helmets-compulsory-a8508561.html?amp

so he won the tour de france, so what. He effectively admits he is ignorant of the pros & cons of wearing helmets.

The cycling professional, from Cardiff, Wales, said there was “no reason” not to wear a helmet when biking through the streets of London.

I would be more interested in hearing from a tailor who read up on the pros & cons for 10minutes.

Chips Lovell

Thomas was pictured on the front of the Sunday Times magazine this week ironing his yellow jersey. I think that tells you all you need to know about how seriously you can take his views on helmets.

rubadub

No welding gloves, no safety boots, he is mental. Go to any doctor specialising in burns and question them if welding gloves would have helped in most burns to the hand caused by irons and most will say yes.

Cetyl Palmitate

rubadub wrote: »

so he won the tour de france, so what. He effectively admits he is ignorant of the pros & cons of wearing helmets.



I would be more interested in hearing from a tailor who read up on the pros & cons for 10minutes.

I totally agree. However his current profile will mean his misinformed opinion is heard.
Its a bit like asking usain bolt how to walk to school.

CramCycle

Cetyl Palmitate wrote: »

I totally agree. However his current profile will mean his misinformed opinion is heard.
Its a bit like asking usain bolt how to walk to school.

Stop at McDs for chicken nuggets would appear to be his advice :pac: