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    #7202
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    I can guarantee there's no conspiracy to appease motor advertisers. Very simply "cycling controversies" get clicks and eyeballs.


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    #7203
    Grassey
    Registered Users Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Grassey


    Rise of the Bicycle in Berlin.

    Not quite journalism, but came across this earlier some nice visualisations. It's in German, but your browser may/should translate to English.


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    #7204
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Grassey wrote: »
    Rise of the Bicycle in Berlin.

    Not quite journalism, but came across this earlier some nice visualisations. It's in German, but your browser may/should translate to English.
    I was recently in Berlin and they have a number of Bike rental schemes like the DublinBikes scheme.
    However, one of them called Obike is a company from Singapore which has ceased trading apparently and they didn't have the money to close the business down and remove the bikes from the streets so they're left lying around free for anyone to take - it's kinda weird to see bikes just there with no locks or anything.

    https://www.dw.com/en/insolvent-bike-sharer-obike-abandons-bicycles-throughout-europe/a-44634636

    https://www.morgenpost.de/berlin/article214822163/Insolvenz-Leihradfirma-Obike-geht-die-Luft-aus.html


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    #7205
    Rechuchote
    Registered Users Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    I was recently in Berlin and they have a number of Bike rental schemes like the DublinBikes scheme.
    However, one of them called Obike is a company from Singapore which has ceased trading apparently and they didn't have the money to close the business down and remove the bikes from the streets so they're left lying around free for anyone to take - it's kinda weird to see bikes just there with no locks or anything.

    https://www.dw.com/en/insolvent-bike-sharer-obike-abandons-bicycles-throughout-europe/a-44634636

    https://www.morgenpost.de/berlin/article214822163/Insolvenz-Leihradfirma-Obike-geht-die-Luft-aus.html

    Pity they wouldn't just leave them there for people to borrow for free and mend as needed.


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    #7206
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Rechuchote wrote: »
    Pity they wouldn't just leave them there for people to borrow for free and mend as needed.

    They are! You see them just lying against random buildings. I'm not sure if they were that great that people would try and keep them but they're just lying there.


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    #7207
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    The BBC's John Beattie attracts criticism for his "bet you all love cyclists" comment in this tweet...
    https://twitter.com/BBCJohnBeattie/status/1125717762545000455?s=19

    The police respond...
    https://twitter.com/WMPRHRT/status/1126080661352341504?s=19


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    #7208
    magicbastarder
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    he also needs to understand what 'more than' and 'less than' mean.


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    #7209
    hesker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭hesker


    Could you ever imagine the day when our police force would respond similarly


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    #7210
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,083 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Someone at WMP going deep on the old hashtags there.


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    #7211
    Rechuchote
    Registered Users Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    Chips Lovell wrote: »
    I can guarantee there's no conspiracy to appease motor advertisers. Very simply "cycling controversies" get clicks and eyeballs.

    It doesn't have to be a conspiracy, any more than any particular newspaper's ownership reflecting the owner's worldview. It's simply the oldest fact in existence: he who pays the piper calls the tune.


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    #7212
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,083 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Rechuchote wrote: »
    It doesn't have to be a conspiracy, any more than any particular newspaper's ownership reflecting the owner's worldview. It's simply the oldest fact in existence: he who pays the piper calls the tune.
    The editor is much more important than the owner in this respect. Mostly the owner just wants to avoid going out of business.


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    #7213
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Lumen wrote: »
    The editor is much more important than the owner in this respect. Mostly the owner just wants to avoid going out of business.

    Correct. I've never heard of a single editor demanding or even hinting at wanting anti-cyclist coverage in order to appease advertisers.


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    #7214
    doozerie
    Registered Users Posts: 4,830 ✭✭✭doozerie


    "Chris Boardman calls for end to drivers v cyclists rhetoric as British Cycling reveals two-thirds of bike riders say roads no safer than five years ago": LINK


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    #7215
    magicbastarder
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    Chips Lovell wrote: »
    Correct. I've never heard of a single editor demanding or even hinting at wanting anti-cyclist coverage in order to appease advertisers.
    well, directly maybe. in the sense that 'we're running land rover ads, so let's have a scare story about cyclists' is probably nonsense.
    but as the evening standard tweet above shows, they're running anti-cycling stories to sell newspapers/clicks. and the more newspapers they sell/clicks they get, the higher the rates they can charge advertisers.


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    #7216
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    That's right. It's same reason why so many papers go big on crime or celebrities, because that's what gets the punters in and, by extension, the advertisers. It's kind of like the other way around, i.e. appeasing readers, not advertisers.


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    #7217
    silverharp
    Registered Users Posts: 18,407 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    hmmm

    https://twitter.com/dublincycling/status/1126419094574645248

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    #7218
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,083 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Chips Lovell wrote: »
    That's right. It's same reason why so many papers go big on crime or celebrities, because that's what gets the punters in and, by extension, the advertisers. It's kind of like the other way around, i.e. appeasing readers, not advertisers.
    But even then, I reckon The Journal shows that it is possible to resist the mob. The quality of their journalism is about a million times better than the brain farts of the semi-literate mob that comment below the stories.


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    #7219
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Lumen wrote: »
    But even then, I reckon The Journal shows that it is possible to resist the mob. The quality of their journalism is about a million times better than the brain farts of the semi-literate mob that comment below the stories.

    They're not really resisting though. They're still getting the mob in. Job done.


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    #7220
    silverharp
    Registered Users Posts: 18,407 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Lumen wrote: »
    But even then, I reckon The Journal shows that it is possible to resist the mob. The quality of their journalism is about a million times better than the brain farts of the semi-literate mob that comment below the stories.

    you are having a laugh, the Journal is a garbage cut and paste outfit

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    #7221
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    silverharp wrote: »
    hmmm

    https://twitter.com/dublincycling/status/1126419094574645248
    479817.PNG


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    #7222
    silverharp
    Registered Users Posts: 18,407 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    479817.PNG

    the comments section are the best bit of the journal , pretty much every comment is ripping their use of cyclist apart :D

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    #7223
    amcalester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    silverharp wrote: »
    the comments section are the best bit of the journal , pretty much every comment is ripping their use of cyclist apart :D

    Headline on the Journal has been changed to man on bike...


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    #7224
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Lumen wrote: »
    But even then, I reckon The Journal shows that it is possible to resist the mob.
    amcalester wrote: »
    Headline on the Journal has been changed to man on bike...

    You were saying....


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    #7225
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,083 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    silverharp wrote: »
    you are having a laugh, the Journal is a garbage cut and paste outfit
    Sure, there's a lot of that, but it mostly reflects the state of the industry. I quite like their fact-checkers.

    I used to read the IT but I could never forgive them for their idiotic and unthinking cheerleading of the boom. "Paper of record" my arse.

    If I was going to buy an actual newspaper it'd probably be the Examiner.


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    #7226
    Duckjob
    Registered Users Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    hesker wrote: »
    Could you ever imagine the day when our police force would respond similarly

    Garda Twitter: "@johnbeattie I know they're frustrating as we have important things to do. Shhhuuure just do your best not to wobble them on your way past and they'll be grand"


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    #7227
    magicbastarder
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    amcalester wrote: »
    Headline on the Journal has been changed to man on bike...
    was it a triathlete? i bet it was a triathlete.


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    #7228
    magicbastarder
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    also, we need to know how many cyclists it takes to pull an ATM out of a wall.


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    #7229
    doozerie
    Registered Users Posts: 4,830 ✭✭✭doozerie


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    was it a triathlete? i bet it was a triathlete.

    "The transition from the cycling leg to the bleedin' leggit leg was exceptionally quick, even when you factored in the time they took to set the bike alight. I'd say they qualified for the international toe-rag triathlon event with that transition alone", said a witness.


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    #7230
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    The indo also refers to cyclist...
    Garda probe underway after cyclist stole cash box from security guard
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/garda-probe-underway-after-cyclist-stole-cash-box-from-security-guard-38094949.html


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    #7231
    RobertFoster
    Registered Users Posts: 9,190 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    If only the cyclist had a licence and registration he'd have been caught by now.


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