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    #8762
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Do you mean that the cyclist couldn't see the car coming from the left because of the van parked in the bike lane?
    ...or a car pulled out from entrance concealed by parked car in cycle lane and knocked down cyclist who appears to have had right if way.
    Either way the van was parked in such a manner that it contributed to the incident. The driver coming from the left should have not pulled out if they could not see properly.


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    #8763
    micar
    Registered Users Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭micar


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Do you mean that the cyclist couldn't see the car coming from the left because of the van parked in the bike lane?

    Yes
    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    ...or a car pulled out from entrance concealed by parked car in cycle lane and knocked down cyclist who appears to have had right if way.
    Either way the van was parked in such a manner that it contributed to the incident. The driver coming from the left should have not pulled out if they could not see properly.

    Yes


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    #8764
    buffalo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,079 ✭✭✭buffalo


    tomasrojo wrote: »
    Taxis are definitely clogging up bus lanes in the city centre, especially around College Green. They are going to have to go, at least in some areas. They could I suppose create a new category of bus lane that excludes taxis but not bikes, but I know that allowing non-mass transit to use bus lanes is regarded as a bad idea in other jurisdictions.

    As far as I know, the contra-flow bus lane on Stephen's Green East is verboten for taxis: https://goo.gl/maps/52fHeAxCwdDs6xXz9

    Likewise the contra-flow on Leeson St (which has a marked cycle lane as well): https://goo.gl/maps/QaRs9rsVpEgypxPq7

    However, I'm not sure if this is legally supported:
    Bus Lanes

    32. (1)(a) A bus lane shall be indicated by means of traffic sign number RUS 028 or traffic sign number RUS 029 used in association with traffic sign number RRM 024.

    (b) A contra-flow bus lane shall be indicated by means of traffic sign number RUS 030 used in association with traffic sign number RRM 024.

    (2) A person shall not enter a bus lane with a vehicle other than a large public service vehicle or a pedal cycle during the period of operation of the bus lane indicated on an information plate.

    ...

    (5)(b) Sub-article (2) does not apply to—

    (i) a taxi or a wheelchair accessible taxi which is being used in the course of business, or

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2012/si/332/made/en/print


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    #8765
    rubadub
    Registered Users Posts: 32,381 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Rechuchote wrote: »
    Taxis were allowed in bus lanes originally when there was a severely limited number of taxi licences. That's no longer the situation, and it's time to get them out.
    I wonder if there are many doing the same as Michael "We should take the cyclists out and shoot them" O'Leary.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_O%27Leary_(businessman)#Registration_of_private_car_as_taxi
    Registration of private car as taxi

    Michael O'Leary's personal Mercedes-Benz S500, operated by O'Leary Cabs and complete with "for hire" roof bar
    In 2004 he purchased a taxi plate for his Mercedes-Benz S-Class, to enable it to be classified as a taxi so that he could legally make use of Dublin's bus lanes to speed up his car journeys around the city.[16] A press report suggested that since he had stopped driving his own taxi, he has employed a driver with full PSV licence. In 2005 the Irish transport minister expressed concern at this abuse by O'Leary and others.

    https://www.joe.ie/uncategorized/would-you-like-to-buy-michael-olearys-taxi-30391


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    #8766
    Fian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭Fian


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EE8m8mmq1k

    Cycling casually explained.


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    #8767
    check_six
    Registered Users Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    buffalo wrote: »
    As far as I know, the contra-flow bus lane on Stephen's Green East is verboten for taxis: https://goo.gl/maps/52fHeAxCwdDs6xXz9

    Likewise the contra-flow on Leeson St (which has a marked cycle lane as well): https://goo.gl/maps/QaRs9rsVpEgypxPq7

    However, I'm not sure if this is legally supported:
    Bus Lanes

    32. (1)(a) A bus lane shall be indicated by means of traffic sign number RUS 028 or traffic sign number RUS 029 used in association with traffic sign number RRM 024.

    (b) A contra-flow bus lane shall be indicated by means of traffic sign number RUS 030 used in association with traffic sign number RRM 024.

    (2) A person shall not enter a bus lane with a vehicle other than a large public service vehicle or a pedal cycle during the period of operation of the bus lane indicated on an information plate.

    ...

    (5)(b) Sub-article (2) does not apply to—

    (i) a taxi or a wheelchair accessible taxi which is being used in the course of business, or

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2012/si/332/made/en/print


    Yes, but sub article 3 says this about contra-flow bus lanes:
    (3) A person shall not enter a contra-flow bus lane with a vehicle other than a large public service vehicle or a pedal cycle.

    So taxis are exempt for regular bus lanes under sub-article 2, but prohibited from contra flow under sub-article 3.

    That taxis in the contraflow thing really bugs me too!


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    #8768
    buffalo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,079 ✭✭✭buffalo


    check_six wrote: »
    Yes, but sub article 3 says this about contra-flow bus lanes:



    So taxis are exempt for regular bus lanes under sub-article 2, but prohibited from contra flow under sub-article 3.

    That taxis in the contraflow thing really bugs me too!

    Thanks. So a change in law would be required to ban PSVs from non-contra-flow lanes.

    The north quays from Talbot Bridge to the Rosie Hackett is another set of contra-flow where taxis are banned. Could we just say College Green is one-way towards O'Connell Bridge, and ban taxis from the "contra-flow" bus lane on the other side? :D


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    #8769
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,586 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    there's that chap again *still* stubbornly refusing to wear a helmet.

    On Cycle Buses, Dublin Parents Shepherd Children to School Safely
    https://dublininquirer.com/2019/11/06/on-cycle-buses-dublin-parents-shepherd-children-to-school-safely


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    #8770
    Chiparus
    Registered Users Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    there's that chap again *still* stubbornly refusing to wear a helmet.

    On Cycle Buses, Dublin Parents Shepherd Children to School Safely
    https://dublininquirer.com/2019/11/06/on-cycle-buses-dublin-parents-shepherd-children-to-school-safely

    His bke was stolen yesterday. He is on the buses.


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    #8771
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,586 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    yeah, the bike he's pictured with.


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    #8772
    Rechuchote
    Registered Users Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    Yeah, Ireland has become a place where we police each other's personal choices.


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    #8773
    Harrybelafonte
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,450 ✭✭✭Harrybelafonte


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    there's that chap again *still* stubbornly refusing to wear a helmet.

    On Cycle Buses, Dublin Parents Shepherd Children to School Safely
    https://dublininquirer.com/2019/11/06/on-cycle-buses-dublin-parents-shepherd-children-to-school-safely

    Are we pushing our personal beliefs on others now?


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    #8774
    Stark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,994 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    I think magicbastarder is being sarcastic in this instance. Oisin O'Connor appeared in a clip in RTE News last week not wearing a helmet and half of Ireland went ape-****.

    (I mean no offence to apes).


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    #8775
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users Posts: 6,664 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    there's that chap again *still* stubbornly refusing to wear a helmet.

    On Cycle Buses, Dublin Parents Shepherd Children to School Safely
    https://dublininquirer.com/2019/11/06/on-cycle-buses-dublin-parents-shepherd-children-to-school-safely

    Why does he need a helmet if he doesnt have a bike.....really now....



    (sorry:p)


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    #8776
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users Posts: 6,664 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Stark wrote: »
    I think magicbastarder is being sarcastic in this instance. Oisin O'Connor appeared in a clip in RTE News last week not wearing a helmet and half of Ireland went ape-****.

    (I mean no offence to apes).

    Dublin Zoo is on the line, they want to have a word with you....


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    #8777
    buffalo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,079 ✭✭✭buffalo


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    there's that chap again *still* stubbornly refusing to wear a helmet.

    On Cycle Buses, Dublin Parents Shepherd Children to School Safely
    https://dublininquirer.com/2019/11/06/on-cycle-buses-dublin-parents-shepherd-children-to-school-safely

    The first school is my alma mater. :) Although it's changed mightily since my day.


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    #8778
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,586 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Stark wrote: »
    I think magicbastarder is being sarcastic in this instance.
    correct, it was meant in jest.


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    #8779
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    check_six wrote: »
    Yes, but sub article 3 says this about contra-flow bus lanes:
    (3) A person shall not enter a contra-flow bus lane with a vehicle other than a large public service vehicle or a pedal cycle.

    So taxis are exempt for regular bus lanes under sub-article 2, but prohibited from contra flow under sub-article 3.

    That taxis in the contraflow thing really bugs me too!
    Is this yet another vague clause that leaves the law open to interpretation?
    What exactly is a "large public service vehicle"?


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    #8780
    Harrybelafonte
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,450 ✭✭✭Harrybelafonte


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    correct, it was meant in jest.

    Apologies.


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    #8781
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Chiparus wrote: »
    His bke was stolen yesterday. He is on the buses.
    Not smiling now.
    I wonder if the two locks attached to the bike were stolen as well?
    Next time, carry the keys and use them.

    https://dublininquirer.com/2019/11/06/on-cycle-buses-dublin-parents-shepherd-children-to-school-safely


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    #8782
    Stark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,994 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Is this yet another vague clause that leaves the law open to interpretation?
    What exactly is a "large public service vehicle"?

    SUV taxi :p
    recedite wrote: »
    Not smiling now.
    I wonder if the two locks attached to the bike were stolen as well?
    Next time, carry the keys and use them.

    https://dublininquirer.com/2019/11/06/on-cycle-buses-dublin-parents-shepherd-children-to-school-safely


    :confused:

    He had a photograph of the bike just before it was stolen with the locks around frame and bike stand.


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    #8783
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,586 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    the photo he shared of it was from last year - at least the one i saw:

    https://twitter.com/OConnorOisin/status/1191792629547184128


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    #8784
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Fian wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EE8m8mmq1k

    Cycling casually explained.


    As per this video, Oisin's main error was in getting off his bike.
    BTW the white lycra thing is not to be taken seriously in our rainy climate.
    Many have already tried, and failed. Don't be that eejit.


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    #8785
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Stark wrote: »
    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Is this yet another vague clause that leaves the law open to interpretation?
    What exactly is a "large public service vehicle"?
    SUV taxi :p
    Not sure if you're serious but is "SUV taxi" or any size defined in the legislation or simply left as an ambiguous "large PSV"?


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    #8786
    check_six
    Registered Users Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Not sure if you're serious but is "SUV taxi" or any size defined in the legislation or simply left as an ambiguous "large PSV"?

    It's a bus. Not a taxi.


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    #8787
    check_six
    Registered Users Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    Probably only left "ambiguous" in the sense that it could incorporate current style buses now, and whatever spider crawler legged vehicles we will use in the near future for moving around the enslaved human population of the earth to work in the mines for the giant space ants. Obviously.


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    #8788
    cdaly_
    Registered Users Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Not sure if you're serious but is "SUV taxi" or any size defined in the legislation or simply left as an ambiguous "large PSV"?
    I would presume it means >8 passengers.


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    #8789
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,586 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Woman who gave Trump the finger elected in Virginia
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/06/juli-briskman-trump-middle-finger-wins-office-virginia

    i know, tenuous link to cycling.


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    #8790
    Rechuchote
    Registered Users Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Is this yet another vague clause that leaves the law open to interpretation?
    What exactly is a "large public service vehicle"?

    They do call them buses. Or coaches too, maybe?


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    #8791
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,768 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    recedite wrote: »
    Not smiling now.
    I wonder if the two locks attached to the bike were stolen as well?
    Next time, carry the keys and use them.

    One lock and a noose? That is a good lock, but it only gets two stars from ART. I think the only three-star lock in the orange Kryptonite range is the Series 4, which I think has a thicker shackle.

    Anyway, he's very good-humoured about it, as he was about getting piled on last week, at least from what I saw of his Twitter account.


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