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Playstation Plus discussion thread - Part deux
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PS Plus is such a ripoff at 60 euros.
Where do you guys buy your PS Plus?
I'd never pay Sony 60 bloody euros for the privilege of playing online.
You can't even keep any of the games.
Most of the games they rent out to you are rubbish or you already have them and then when the sub runs out you end up with nothing. I hate that. Anyway just wondering where you get your subs and where is the cheapest?
Hey Quinn, I see you’re in for your monthly moan poem
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Potential-Monke wrote: »if you don't get anything extra from playing as you do from watching, what's the point.
Apologies if this drags the thread off topic a bit - hey, discussion is good - but this criticism always makes me twitch (as do the words 'artsy' and 'pretentious' :pac:). I play a lot of narrative-based games, including some that would be far deeper down the rabbit hole of actual art & experimental games than any of the ones being mentioned here. I have yet to encounter one that would remotely offer the same experience being watched rather than played*.
Games are designed to be interactive, even if they're light on gameplay systems in the traditional sense. Instead, they use interactivity to more literally immerse the player in a world than you'd get in something like a film. In Gone Home - often an example used in discussions of this sort, and vaguely on topic because it was a PS+ title at one stage
- the game is built around the player poking about, exploring the environment, indulging their curiosity to actively uncover a story. Passively engaging with that is a fundamentally different experience - when a streamer, for example, looks up when you'd look down, that's the essence of the thing shattered.
I played an iOS 'game' called Florence the other night. I hate 'it's not a game' arguments, but I say 'game' in this case as it is the rare sort that could be classified as an interactive comic or something. Nonetheless, even though its interactions are basic as they come, the designers manage to communicate actual meaning and theme by little things like asking you to put a speech bubble together by connecting a handful of shapes together. That's on the extreme end of the interactivity scale, but even in that case you're getting a fundamentally different sort of experience than you would if you were reading a traditional comic or passively watching it unfold.
So yes, nobody is obliged to like any game - there's lots of narrative or atmosphere-heavy games I'm ambivalent towards, and I've heard plenty of intelligent critiques of such titles one way or the other. But whenever you watch a game, whether it's something systems-heavy like Bloodborne or systems-light like Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, you're fundamentally removing the essential ingredient of what makes them what they are - and you will never, ever get the genuine experience as a result
*actually, I think the farcically awful Azura's Wrath might be the only exception I'd offer here, which was a glorified eight-hour QTE experience, and it can **** right off.0 -
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