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itv not offering simon holt commentary job

  • 05-10-2016 06:39PM
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 247 ✭✭


    just saw their earlier today that itv have decided not to offer simon holt a contract when they take over the tv rights of the racing,which in my opinion is totally wrong as i feel without doubt he is the best racing commentator their is,always loved hearing his commentories and i always felt he made races extra special and exciting and he used to never get to excited or shout like some and the cheltenham festivel wont be the same with simon not calling them home,hopefully itv might reverse their decision,so what do ye think?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭Wicklow Brave


    Massive fan of Simon Holt. ITV saying they wanted a change from C4 but have still signed Mick Fitzgerald, Alice Plunkett, Rishi Persad? Holt was the best thing about C4. I felt he was sorely missed at the Arc on Sunday. The Sky Sports commentator (don't know his name) was appalling, made it sound like a Bath maiden. Hoiles is good but I think Holt really gives the big races like Cheltenham, Derby etc a sense of occasion, that it is a race that *really* matters. Oh well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    I love listening to Simon Holt. Richard Hoiles is alright but nowhere near as good. Holt manages to give really good insight too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Andalucia


    Mick Fitz as a pundit, a real mystery of life, as to how Sally Ann Grassick can be included on the roster, the mind does boggle

    Holt top class alright, pity he could not be accommodated, perhaps RTE could give him a few days instead of Tony O'Hehir


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Gregk961


    If there was one thing I would want to retain from C4s coverage it would be Simon's commentary. Im really shocked by that decision hoping for a u-turn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭kksaints


    Always thought that Holt was a quality commentator. Hoiles isn't too bad but Holt is better. His Best Mate third Gold Cup commentary is probably his best imo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭posturingpat


    As long as Catt doesn't get a gig.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 247 ✭✭primary 2


    just reading the racing post,he was interviewed for the job last march and he said the people that interviewed him had very little knowledge of racing and he got vibes that they werent interested in giving him the job and he only found out lately and seemingly the reason he didnt get the job was because he is associated with c4 too much also nick luck which i am also a fan of and your right is commentaries were legendry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭Irish Beef


    Never liked the C4 line-up, in particular Clare Balding, taught she was very rude, wasn't a fan of Nick Luck either. I think John Francome was sorely missed, he really sounded like he knew what he was talking about and made the whole thing so much more interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭dickenson famous5


    Like a lot of people thought holt was very good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭Shemale


    All they had to do was hire Francome, Down and Holt and they didn't even manage one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭posturingpat


    Shemale wrote: »
    All they had to do was hire Francome, Down and Holt and they didn't even manage one.

    Francombe and Down both said they had no interest i believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Richard Hoiles is awful, always tries to 'see' something most mere mortals wouldn't. I can't stand him. Know it all but is far from it.

    Holt is ok, think he's been on the wain a bit last couple of years but I'd rather him over Hoiles anyday.

    Didn't ITV want John Hunt originally but he signed a contract with BBC?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    I would also have no problem listening to a Simon Holt commentary on any race.
    Has ability to do the job been replaced by a drive to ensure every section of society is represented in the team?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭supremenovice


    The Sky Sports commentator (don't know his name) was appalling, made it sound like a Bath maiden.

    I remember thinking something similar at the time. His voice never had a sense of excitement and tension to it at all. Awful commentary indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 salfordseven


    Correct on the Arc commentary I have heard more enthusiasm by someone calling the lucky last at Wolverhampton on a wednesday in February.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Holt is the best in the business by a country mile. Scandalous he didnt get the gig. Hairs on the back of your neck stand on end when hes commentating in the big races especially at the Cheltenham festival.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Francombe and Down both said they had no interest i believe.

    They must have told them about the "excellent" staff they had already signed up!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭dirkmeister


    Stupid decision.



    "Brave Inca...the bravest of the brave!!!"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    I remember thinking something similar at the time. His voice never had a sense of excitement and tension to it at all. Awful commentary indeed.

    I watched the ATR version, but later looked over at the Sky Sports Version, both of the presenter and pundit are also from the ATR team (which is part of Sky of Course)

    God yeah, the commentating was completely and utter underwhelming. Remarkably bad.

    For me personally, I know he is a bit long in the tooth now, but Jim McGrath's commentating of the 2009 Arc was magic. Maybe more so because an Irish horse won

    " He's got 6 or 7 lengths to make up
    He will have to be a champion,
    Stacelita races into the lead now,
    2 in front, he is a champion I reckon
    He has got the run down in the middle
    He's out after the leader (or leada)
    He Picks up Stacelita
    He POWERS CLEAR !
    Sea The Stars, racing away
    Perfection in Equine Form
    A horse of a life time "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Lt Dan wrote: »

    For me personally, I know he is a bit long in the tooth now, but Jim McGrath's commentating of the 2009 Arc was magic. Maybe more so because an Irish horse won

    " He's got 6 or 7 lengths to make up
    He will have to be a champion,
    Stacelita races into the lead now,
    2 in front, he is a champion in the reckoning
    He has got the run down in the middle
    He's out after the leader (or leada)
    He Picks up Stacelita
    He POWERS CLEAR !
    Sea The Stars, racing away
    Perfection in Equine Form
    A horse of a life time "

    Still get goosebumps watching it, sublime commentary.

    Thought it was " He is a champion I reckon"


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Shemale wrote: »
    Still get goosebumps watching it, sublime commentary.

    Thought it was " He is a champion I reckon"

    You are correct. The accent also made it special too .

    He's out after da leada
    He Picks up Stacelita
    He POWERS CLEAR !

    You will notice that the subsequent commentaries tried to give a similar effect to Frankel's British Champion Stakes win. Not the same really.

    Not sure Kinane is the type to be all dreamy about all of his wonderful international achievements, but you could not blame him if he watch that race as a pick me put on a regular basis. I have a woeful habit on youtube of repeating the final three furlongs. Commentating was special and so was STS performance of course

    I liked the commentating for Hardy Eustace's first and second Champion Hurdle.

    For the second one, he makes all, as he grew to do. Commentator talking about how Paul Carberry and his bridle ponce was laughing at his opponents, while Hardy showed , boy he is game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Jim McGrath's best Arc commentary was 2007.....

    "Authorized is absolutely cantering"....when the whole world could see he was beaten and being eased down :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    kfallon wrote: »
    Jim McGrath's best Arc commentary was 2007.....

    "Authorized is absolutely cantering"....when the whole world could see he was beaten and being eased down :pac:

    A good day for you KF :D

    An even better one the next day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    ziggy wrote: »
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    Experts on the team include Hayley Turner, Mick Fitzgerald, Jason Weaver, Luke Harvey and Brian Gleeson.

    :(
    Had to switch ATR off last Friday cos those 3 were on it and don't get me started on Fitzgerald.

    And as for Pendleton.....

    What a shíte line up, only Chapman saves the day!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,339 ✭✭✭convert


    Oh dear God!!! :eek: :(

    That report really doesn't make me want to watch it at all. Grassick bugs the sh*t out of me, as do Turner, Richi and Fitzgerald, and, unlike most people, I'm not a fan of Champion either. As for Pendleton: is she there just to attract viewers? She's a fantastic athlete, and had a great achievement getting to ride in Cheltenham in such a short space of time, but there are so many people involved in the industry for far longer and with far more knowledge who would be better and of more interest.

    Coverage of Racing on TV is dying a slow and painful death :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭Badabing


    Will they still have say Ted Walsh on at Cheltenham time?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 450 ✭✭Pinesky


    Unfortunately ITV seem to be going down the C4 route . It will be not be a racing program it will be a light entertainment program with racing as the the main ingredient. All the so called minorities will be represented plus quasi experts and faux comedians. I will watch it for the racing coverage but I will not expect much else .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭PM me nudes


    I'd rather watch a kitten being microwaved than Hayley fcuking Turner. Beyond useless


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