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Coil builders: What's your favourite wire?

  • 07-10-2016 6:04pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭


    I'm looking to vary my coils up a bit, as all I really use nowadays are RTA/RBA. I've made the move from Kanthal to SS wire, I use SS on all my current builds. But, fancy something a little more adventurous. The fanciest wire I've used to date was your bog standard kanthal clapton. I mostly do 25g 317L 9-10 wraps around a 3mm bit. I get between 0.3 - 0.4 usually [bit lower if I'm not paying attention counting the wraps!]

    What do you lot use most? What resistance do you prefer your coils to end up? and how many wraps and what ID to get there?

    I don't plan on making my own fused clapton or anything, just want some good ready rolled stuff to play around with.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭moleyv


    You can get SS Clapton's and twisted too.

    Me, I like plain Clapton's for larger stuff, and twisted or fused claptons on smaller tanks.

    You can get all that alien wire and stuff, but they are best for huge RDAs.

    I buy Clapton and twisted Clapton on a roll, then wrap myself.

    For tanks that will only take a smaller diameter coil, pre made wrapper ones are a good choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    moleyv wrote: »
    You can get SS Clapton's and twisted too.

    Me, I like plain Clapton's for larger stuff, and twisted or fused claptons on smaller tanks.

    You can get all that alien wire and stuff, but they are best for huge RDAs.

    I buy Clapton and twisted Clapton on a roll, then wrap myself.

    For tanks that will only take a smaller diameter coil, pre made wrapper ones are a good choice.

    I have a little coil kit that makes nice tidy coils, prefer to wrap them myself too. Some of the pre-made ones look to have very short legs, might be a bit fiddly?

    SS fused Clapton sounds good, what grade should I look for?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    I'm trying out some of the demon killer violence coils,some interesting wraps and builds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    I'm trying out some of the demon killer violence coils,some interesting wraps and builds

    Will look them up, never heard


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    Will look them up, never heard

    Think they are only new out,theyve got the alien v2,tsuka,clapception,staple staggered fused Clapton,spaced Clapton,tri-twisted Clapton and framed clapton


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    Think they are only new out,theyve got the alien v2,tsuka,clapception,staple staggered fused Clapton,spaced Clapton,tri-twisted Clapton and framed clapton

    Ah I knew there would be a bunch of confusing names for them :D I see they have packs on the likes of 3fvape


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    Ah I knew there would be a bunch of confusing names for them :D I see they have packs on the likes of 3fvape

    Clapception :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭chipfox


    http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp

    This is a good resource. I normally just stuck to 22 gauge kanthal, maybe 7 wraps around a 3mm bit. Always leaves me at 0.47-0.51. Just recently starting making my own claptons with 28 gauge wrapped around the 22. Makes no difference to the resistance but need bigger watts to get it up to temperature


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    That's a great site yeah, but it can be tricky if using fancier wires.

    I switched to SS so I could flick between power mode and TC anytime, it's the only wire that allows that. I also think SS wire gives a slightly cleaner vape experience, ramp up times are a tad quicker and if you're a flavour chaser like me, it's good for making wider coils. I think it's pretty much double the wraps you'd use with kanthal to achieve similar results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭chipfox


    That sounds pretty deadly actually. I never really looked into different types of wire to be honest, always just assumed it was mostly a gimmick.

    I always found 7 wraps to be fairly skinny for the TFV4 rba, wouldn't mind beefing that up but staying at the same resistance

    Do all claptons use kanthal for the wrapped bit?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    You can get SS fused Clapton, resistance is going to be very low though, even with a lot of wraps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭moleyv


    I have a little coil kit that makes nice tidy coils, prefer to wrap them myself too. Some of the pre-made ones look to have very short legs, might be a bit fiddly?

    SS fused Clapton sounds good, what grade should I look for?


    I always find the premade ones have long enough legs, never had an issue anyway.

    I forgot to check the grade. I think I just picked a random one. I use it all the time on my kayfunv5 in TC. And used to use it in my aromamiser supreme.

    You need a decent mod to use it in TC though, dual only worked on my dna200.

    Fine on anything in wattage.

    I've a huge selection of wire but none with me for a few days, I normally get it in 3fvape. I use the geekvape, vapethink and some other one I can't remember the name of. The one I can't remember does crazy stuff like hive wire and all that in rolls.

    The gauge is a balls to work out on steam engine. I normally go trial and error as all the stats you need for steam engine aren't normally on the packaging.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,053 ✭✭✭Doge


    Been thinking of making the move from Kanthal to SS myself too recently, the flavour chaser never dies in me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,555 ✭✭✭youdipstick


    I bought these coils a couple of months ago to try them out,curiosity got to me,they all have decent enough leg lengths on them & work pretty good.Each coil specifies what the resistance is per coil,for newbies,if you use 2 of the same coils,the resistance for dual coils is half the resistance it says on the coil box.


    http://e-smokeireland.com/product/demon-killer-8-in-1/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    I bought these coils a couple of months ago to try them out,curiosity got to me,they all have decent enough leg lengths on them & work pretty good.Each coil specifies what the resistance is per coil,for newbies,if you use 2 of the same coils,the resistance for dual coils is half the resistance it says on the coil box.


    http://e-smokeireland.com/product/demon-killer-8-in-1/

    Are they all kanthal coils? it doesn't give the wire types used


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,555 ✭✭✭youdipstick


    Are they all kanthal coils? it doesn't give the wire types used

    I know there are some SS coils,I'll have a look & let you know & the resistance of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,555 ✭✭✭youdipstick


    Are they all kanthal coils? it doesn't give the wire types used

    All of them are Kanthal,it was another box that I read SS 316L Alien coils...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    All of them are Kanthal,it was another box that I read SS 316L Alien coils...

    Cheers for the info. Looks a nice set, but I do like SS for switching between modes when I fancy. I might chance a spool of fused clapton and mess about with some different ID and wrap amounts


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