Presidential Debate No.2

alchemist33

"Energy is under siege by the obama administration."


Obama can change the laws of physics?!?

Jayop

oik wrote: »

Great answer on why she's not donating to her own campaign.

Brilliant.

Killer.

Predictably the moderators protect her.


Since when are candidates not allowed to ask each other questions?

So only billionaires should run for president?

4068ac1elhodqr

oik wrote: »

Great answer on why she's not donating to her own campaign.

Brilliant.

And unable to answer/respond to this, tried to revert to original question

The Wolverine

ebbsy wrote: »

****ing coal question not good for Hillary.

I may be wrong but didn't she say recently "we'll put the miners outta business"

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Realt Dearg Sec

oik wrote: »

You must be watching a different debate.

He's performing very well.

I must be. To use one of his favourite words, he's been a disaster. He's had moment's where he's doing well, but he invariably starts to ramble off the topic and follow his stream of consciousness, or better yet start going about Twitter, 3am, Putin, all words he should have been strictly forbidden from mentioning unless forced to. His body language is awful, it's like he's had no advice on that at all.

ECO_Mental

oik wrote: »

Great answer on why she's not donating to her own campaign.

Brilliant.

Killer.

Predictably the moderators protect her.


Since when are candidates not allowed to ask each other questions?

I think you will find in the end of the day he will not be putting any of his own money in. He is giving loans to the GOP that will have to be paid back to him

Feline Grabber

Trump knows all about Chinese steel.

The Wolverine

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

I must be. To use one of his favourite words, he's been a disaster. He's had moment's where he's doing well, but he invariably starts to ramble off the topic and follow his stream of consciousness, or better yet start going about Twitter, 3am, Putin, all words he should have been strictly forbidden from mentioning unless forced to. His body language is awful, it's like he's had no advice on that at all.

To be fair it was herself bringing up the reds under the bed angle

Billy86

I hope for their own safety that nobody was playing any of the 'debate talking point & buzzword' drinking games tonight.

Realt Dearg Sec

He did skewer her on the funding question.

Arghus

Trump a big fan of wind energy. No surprise.

That hot air. It's going to be huge believe me, believe me.

Jayop

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

I must be. To use one of his favourite words, he's been a disaster. He's had moment's where he's doing well, but he invariably starts to ramble off the topic and follow his stream of consciousness, or better yet start going about Twitter, 3am, Putin, all words he should have been strictly forbidden from mentioning unless forced to. His body language is awful, it's like he's had no advice on that at all.

He looks and sounds like he's coked off his head.

Realt Dearg Sec

The Wolverine wrote: »

To be fair it was herself bringing up the reds under the bed angle

Yeah because that helps her massively, he's perceived as being a putin puppet, he shouldn't be mentioning it at all unless he's sure of how to refute it, which did a very bad job of, again.

Conas

Trump or Clinton? I'd gladly take door number 3.

Mr.Nice Guy

Andrew Neil raised a good point wondering why Clinton didn't list all the leading Republicans who have disassociated themselves from Trump's campaign.

Did she think it unnecessary?

Overheal

Conas wrote: »

Trump or Clinton? I'd gladly take door number 3.

Don't blame me I voted for Bernie

oik

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

I must be. To use one of his favourite words, he's been a disaster. He's had moment's where he's doing well, but he invariably starts to ramble off the topic and follow his stream of consciousness, or better yet start going about Twitter, 3am, Putin, all words he should have been strictly forbidden from mentioning unless forced to. His body language is awful, it's like he's had no advice on that at all.

I'm mainly listening to it so I can't speak for body language.

But he hasn't committed any major mistakes and hasn't given the media any easy soundbites.

ShaneU

https://twitter.com/SCClemons/status/785302342673367040

Cantstandsya

bets on Trump parroting this answer and saying he respects Chelsea Clinton?

Conas

Overheal wrote: »

Don't blame me I voted for Bernie

The last person I liked, and would have voted for was Ron Paul.

ebbsy

Lol

Overheal

Conas wrote: »

The last person I liked, and would have voted for was Ron Paul.

I voted for him too

Mr.Nice Guy

That was such a politician's answer from Hillary. Not the sort of answer people want to hear.

Billy86

Interesting how Trump, the constant interrupter, had nothing to say about Clinton saying he is buying illegally dumped steel from China.


And thank you, Karl Becker!

The Wolverine

ShaneU wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SCClemons/status/785302342673367040

They were saying that Sunday morning GMT and Pence dismissed it I would wait and see if it more rubbish

Realt Dearg Sec

oik wrote: »

I'm mainly listening to it so I can't speak for body language.

But he hasn't committed any major mistakes and hasn't given the media any easy soundbites.

Given his vp is rumoured to be considering leaving the race, there must be some mistakes...

RobertKK

That was a nice end to the debate.

Jayop

That last question was undoubtedly trumps best answer in comparison.

Realt Dearg Sec

Trump did better on the last question.

applehunter

Trump on points.

Mr.Nice Guy

Trump answered the final question better.

Overheal

Aww they shook hands. Kodak moment

Billy86

Overheal wrote: »

Don't blame me I voted for Bernie

Was the reference intentional?

ECO_Mental

Hillary comfortable enough at least she answered questons

Realt Dearg Sec

Overheal wrote: »

Aww they shook hands. Kodak moment

Weird that they didn't at the start, it was awkward.

All in all I thought Clinton was less solid than last time, trump improved, but he still made so many mistakes. But the bar is so low for him now

RobertKK

Trump did much better than the first debate.

oik

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Given his vp is rumoured to be considering leaving the race, there must be some mistakes...

Sounds like bollocks.

Jayop

She won bigly

Realt Dearg Sec

oik wrote: »

Sounds like bollocks.

Almost certainly, but to say there was no mistakes would be an awful stretch

ebbsy

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

oik wrote: »

I'm mainly listening to it so I can't speak for body language.

But he hasn't committed any major mistakes and hasn't given the media any easy soundbites.

Given his vp is rumoured to be considering leaving the race, there must be some mistakes...

Bull****.

oik

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Almost certainly, but to say there was no mistakes would be an awful stretch

I judge mistakes on their likelihood to negatively influence voters, and for my money none of his mistakes reached that threshold.

4068ac1elhodqr

Estimate that there is around 20m tw-bots in auto-rumour active mode right now, don't believe everything you hear.

12gauge dave

Trump won in my opinion hillary didnt shine anywhere.

super_furry

So Trump spends weeks telling everyone that Hillary's on the verge of dying. Now she's a fighter who never gives up?

Grayditch

It started out like Mortal Kombat, but the finish was...

Conas

The opening of the debate was quiet vile, and disgusting. It wasn't too bad after that. I think Trump won personally, but the spin masters in the media will spin it in Clinton's favour I'd say.

All in all for a nation as large as America, to have these two candidates as the last two standing is truly terrifying. I think the whole American political system is damaged beyond repair to be honest. Truly shocking stuff.

Jayop

Given pence came out against him and then Trump basically screwed him over I don't think pence leaving the ticket would be much of a surprise.

Mr.Nice Guy

I thought he was done for in the opening part of the debate. He looked listless and his answers were all over the shop. She should have moved in for the knockout, brought up all those deserting his campaign; but she held off, presumably thinking he would self-implode.

He rattled her as it wore on with aggressive tactics and mud slinging; she looked off her game. But he also lost the plot at times, attacking the moderators and making bizarre claims like the comment on America's health system being preferable to Canada.

Honesty I don't think either of them won. I think it was a stalemate.

Whatever happens, pity America and the rest of the world.

oik

Hillary did nothing to show she's not the establishment crony she is.

She leans on "diversity" and "equality" as a crutch while supporting crony capitalism.

4068ac1elhodqr

The betting markets are saying DT did better today (these markets speak more accurately than polls and media opinions).
Shortened on five books, Ladbrokes pulling back to 3.75 (20%c price reduction).