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Johner

David Price? Oh for **** sake.

DylanAFC

Johner wrote: »

David Price? Oh for **** sake.

Probably on box office too.

Morrison J

Klitschko Points

I reckon Price has been the plan all along. Sky didn't republish the AJ-Price sparring story last month for no reason.

Disgrace of a fight if it happens.

walshb

Joshua Points

Price is a big MOFO. Could cause a surprise here. It's not going past 2-3 rds either way. Joshua via KO for me.

Morrison J

Klitschko Points

They'll big it up using Price's one punch KO power but Price is gun shy as ****. Won't even let his hands go. Fight is only going one way. AJ within 3 rounds.

HigginsJ

Joshua Points

Morrison J wrote: »

They'll big it up using Price's one punch KO power but Price is gun shy as ****. Won't even let his hands go.

This for me, Price has looked awful since the Thompson fights, I really think AJ can have him out of there in the 1st if he wants. It is a terribly poor fight, although Haye was saying he thought it would be Eric Molina and this is at least better than that would have been.

Out of the fights that could realistically have been made I would love to have seen him in against Pulev.

walshb

Joshua Points

I hope AJ wins via KO. Makes it 1-1.......:)

walshb

Joshua Points

DylanAFC wrote: »

Probably on box office too.

That's a given. They have decided that AJ vs. anyone is on PPV.

Littlehorny

Joshua Points

absolute disgrace if it happens, surely Price isn't even in the top twenty in the world?

HigginsJ

Joshua Points

Littlehorny wrote: »

absolute disgrace if it happens, surely Price isn't even in the top twenty in the world?

You'd be hard pressed to have him in the top 30 really, couldnt make a case for him. He looked great being fed tin cans in his early days but he is gone mentally IMO.

StringerBell

More easy money for Eddie and Co

Frank Bullitt

Joshua KO

How the hell did Price come into this???

This is a joke.

walshb

Joshua Points

Why are people surprised? Hearn gave us, on PPV may I add: Kell Brook vs. Frankie Gavin!

prettyboy81

Joshua KO

walshb wrote: »

Why are people surprised? Hearn gave us, on PPV may I add: Kell Brook vs. Frankie Gavin!

With Sky Sports backing...shocking!

StringerBell

I for one am looking forward to the promotion of this fight, how they spin it into a reasonable contest, no less a PPV will be very interesting to me. The fight itself? Na

badabing106

Klitschko Points

Gintonious wrote: »

How the hell did Price come into this???

This is a joke.

Its up there with Haye vs Audley !

Rainman16

The Fight is on. Just announced after AJ's 3rd round KO of Molina.

Wembley Stadium April 29th

walshb

Joshua Points

Rainman16 wrote: »

The Fight is on. Just announced after AJ's 3rd round KO of Molina.

Wembley Stadium April 29th

AJ by early enough KO. That's if it actually goes ahead.

walshb

Joshua Points

Haye and Froch both agreed that Wlad is a step up from AJs previous opponents...no way, really?

Burial.

Klitschko Points

If Wlad has anything left he should starch Joshua. Unsure of how much he has left though.

walshb

Joshua Points

Burial. wrote: »

If Wlad has anything left he should starch Joshua. Unsure of how much he has left though.

You mean KO? Plenty of smaller and less dangerous men than AJ lasted quite a while with Wlad through the years. Wlad was never a killer. Fights scared and cautiously. Worked well against smaller men with not near the threat level of AJ. If AJs chin is fairly good, which I believe it is, Wlad has very little chance to do any starching. Wlad likely fights cautiously and tries to steal and spoil his way to a victory. That really is his best hope. I can't see AJ being spoiled or contained for too long. AJ within 5 rds, and if he lands clean and flush he wins by KO in any rd.

boxer.fan

The Wlad that bullied & beat Povetkin & Pulev should be able to deal with AJ.
We won't learn much from this fight with regards the division. If Wlad wins then our suspicions over AJ will be confirmed, if AJ wins then we will know that Wlad has had nothing left for a while.

walshb

Joshua Points

boxer.fan wrote: »

The Wlad that bullied & beat Povetkin & Pulev should be able to deal with AJ.
We won't learn much from this fight with regards the division. If Wlad wins then our suspicions over AJ will be confirmed, if AJ wins then we will know that Wlad has had nothing left for a while.

This is the issue I have. The two he bullied were physically not his equal. They did not possess the threat level that AJ presents, hence why is it brought up? Makes no sense to me.

Kind of like me saying that the Arturo Gatti that demolished Gamanche will have no issue with Oscar. What happened? Oscar was a far more serious threat...

Henno30

Joshua Points

walshb wrote: »

This is the issue I have. The two he bullied were physically not his equal. They did not possess the threat level that AJ presents, hence why is it brought up? Makes no sense to me.

Kind of like me saying that the Arturo Gatti that demolished Gamanche will have no issue with Oscar. What happened? Oscar was a far more serious threat...

Stylistically I think Wlad will be more at home against AJ than Fury, that's for sure. But it's certainly true that Wlad hasn't faced a fighter as offensively threatening than AJ in a long time. So Wlad will be using tools he's more familiar with this time, but who knows if they're still in good enough condition to get the job done. He didn't look sharp against Fury by any measure.

walshb

Joshua Points

Henno30 wrote: »

Stylistically I think Wlad will be more at home against AJ than Fury, that's for sure. But it's certainly true that Wlad hasn't faced a fighter as offensively threatening than AJ in a long time. So Wlad will be using tools he's more familiar with this time, but who knows if they're still in good enough condition to get the job done. He didn't look sharp against Fury by any measure.

Maybe in terms of movement and predictability, but he faces a far deadlier puncher, who by the way, can win the battle of the jabs. AJ has a hard and penetrative and snappy rangy jab. Wlad's only likely "advantage" may not be so against AJ. In a nutshell he faces the prospect of a far more bruising beating against AJ than what he faced against Fury, who barely landed a decent punch the whole fight. Plus, against Fury he was never in survival mode because Fury is a weak puncher. Against AJ that is so different.

walshb

Joshua Points

I won't believe Wlad takes this fight until the bell goes.

boxer.fan

pac_man wrote: »

Or if his body is able for a training camp.

good point

boxer.fan

If klitschko makes it as far as the ring it will be very interesting to see how he turns up. He was deeply unsettled with all the Fury clan shenanigans which I believe had a lot to do with his performance. He also had a lot going on outside the ring at that time. If he has managed to sort things out & gets a clear run he could turn up in top form & give us a great fight. Doubtful though. I suspect he has had his day.

selectamatic

Joshua Points

The wlad that bullied pulev was aided by weak refereeing. How he wasn't docked points for pulling and dragging was beyond me. Now obviously in the end it made zero difference but still I was surprised at the time to see wlad have to resort to such. He seemed to struggle to tie up pulev legally.

One things for sure if tries to rag doll Joshua like that I can't see it having the same results.

sham69

I don't understand why this fight is happening (or not happening )
Fury has already beaten Vlad in what was an awful fight, Klitschko looked finished that night.

Can't understand the hype from the press " will make Joshua a legend" etc?
Its like everyone has forgotten the Fury v Klitschko fight already.

Joshua wins by KO early rounds against a 41 yr old man, what does it really prove?

Just my opinion as a casual observer..

Henno30

Joshua Points

sham69 wrote: »

I don't understand why this fight is happening (or not happening )
Fury has already beaten Vlad in what was an awful fight, Klitschko looked finished that night.

Can't understand the hype from the press " will make Joshua a legend" etc?
Its like everyone has forgotten the Fury v Klitschko fight already.

Joshua wins by KO early rounds against a 41 yr old man, what does it really prove?

Just my opinion as a casual observer..

Fury's victory was (almost literally) bloodless and it's not like Wlad suddenly became worthless after it. He lost a toss-up decision and barely took a significant punch. So his stock has dipped but hasn't plummeted. He is a massive step up for AJ and a true test of where AJ is really at.

So for me it's significant on a boxing level and significant on a status level.

StringerBell

For a limited time only, Wlad still has enough of a name, brand recognition for this fight to be very important to AJ and the team. That's why it is happening, Fury didn't exactly batter Wlad did he? If AJ can get him out, and especially get him out early they will spin that as evidence of how amazing he is. It also cannot be overlooked that this is a step up for him, a real one. It is one that Klit from 5 years ago would have been too much for him imo but now if he is what they think he is he should be coming through it. A good test for him and important from a boxing perspective as almost as much as from a PR perspective.

walshb

Joshua Points

Well, I am going on early and clear KO win for AJ. Wlad winning would not be the biggest surprise. The jury is still out on AJs skills against elite fighters, as well as his chin when hit clean by elite fighters. I think AJ passes this test, and he may not even have to show his boxing skills or chin, so even after it the jury may still be out.

maverick_21

Joshua Points

How gullible are the British public? Hearn can literally spin anything to them and they lap it up. Joshua is holding a belt he never had to win from Fury and is now fighting the person Fury beat to become unified champion, but Joshua will be a legend if he beats Klitschko.
It's mad really! Its as if Fury never won those titles.
Joshua will destroy Klitschko and we will fed more rubbish about Joshua. I would love if he KO'd early just to see the look on that jackass Hearns face.

StringerBell

There will be a clear difference in the manner of the victories over Wlad is my gut instinct.

maverick_21

Joshua Points

Again though this is a different Wlad. He has been dethroned for the first time in ages, is probably doubting himself and is going to 41. When Fury fought him he was unbeaten for close to 10 years.

nacho libre

Klitschko Points

walshb wrote: »

Well, I am going on early and clear KO win for AJ. Wlad winning would not be the biggest surprise. The jury is still out on AJs skills against elite fighters, as well as his chin when hit clean by elite fighters. I think AJ passes this test, and he may not even have to show his boxing skills or chin, so even after it the jury may still be out.

You always have yourself covered, Walshb.

I think for AJ if he wins early, for some it'll be Wlad was past it, if Wlad wins on points or by a ko, AJ was a hype job. The truth might be somewhere in between.

walshb

Joshua Points

nacho libre wrote: »

You always have yourself covered, Walshb.

I think for AJ if he wins early, for some it'll be Wlad was past it, if Wlad wins on points or by a ko, AJ was a hype job. The truth might be somewhere in between.

But in instances like this "cover" is only natural. I mean, as much as I believe that AJ is bad for Wlad, it's hard to dismiss Wlad here.

boxer.fan

walshb wrote: »

But in instances like this "cover" is only natural. I mean, as much as I believe that AJ is bad for Wlad, it's hard to dismiss Wlad here.

To dismiss Wlad would be silly. There's a distinct possibility he was having a bad day against Fury.

selectamatic

Joshua Points

maverick_21 wrote: »

Again though this is a different Wlad. He has been dethroned for the first time in ages, is probably doubting himself and is going to 41. When Fury fought him he was unbeaten for close to 10 years.

It's not, it's the same wlad.

The wlad that coughed up his belts without so much as a whimper.

Take a look at lebedev the other night that's how you try to hold onto your belts, pure heart.
wlad assumed he'd win as he always had and when push came to shove there was no plan B although imo there was no plan A either.

If anything this wlad could be more dangerous than the wlad fury beat as he has a carrot to chase now. Personally I don't think he'll be any better but ya never know.

Either way to say the wlad of now is massively different to the wlad fury fought is simply not true. As said he escaped the fury fight without a scratch on him so unless arthritis has taken hold in the last year there is no basis for saying he's any different.

walshb

Joshua Points

selectamatic wrote: »

It's not, it's the same wlad.

The wlad that coughed up his belts without so much as a whimper.

Take a look at lebedev the other night that's how you try to hold onto your belts, pure heart.
wlad assumed he'd win as he always had and when push came to shove there was no plan B although imo there was no plan A either.

If anything this wlad could be more dangerous than the wlad fury beat as he has a carrot to chase now. Personally I don't think he'll be any better but ya never know.

Either way to say the wlad of now is massively different to the wlad fury fought is simply not true. As said he escaped the fury fight without a scratch on him so unless arthritis has taken hold in the last year there is no basis for saying he's any different.

I am of the same view. Wlad was simply more scared against Fury of committing than he was against far smaller men in the past. He's been fighting tentatively and scared for years now, just that against Fury he couldn't let the hands go the same way because of the physical differences.

Henno30

Joshua Points

walshb wrote: »

I am of the same view. Wlad was simply more scared against Fury of committing than he was against far smaller men in the past. He's been fighting tentatively and scared for years now, just that against Fury he couldn't let the hands go the same way because of the physical differences.

Fury's reach and height presented the possibility of falling short with the right and being in range for counters. It's that simple really. Wlad has no ability to fight in the pocket whatsoever. If he finds himself in there, he's completely helpless. It is actually a bit pathetic. Khan is a fighter who I have slated in the past for having no pocket fighting skills but even he is superior to Wlad in that regard. It is one of those things that makes it difficult to fully respect Wlad, despite his long spell of dominance.

MisterAnarchy

maverick_21 wrote: »

How gullible are the British public?

Extremely gullible .They always fall for the hype when a British boxer is fighting .
It will be interesting to see if Hearn can sell Wembley out ,but I expect the British public will lap up the biggest fight in British boxing history ,lol

Henno30

Joshua Points

A heavyweight champion should be ready and willing to trade. Especially if he's about to lose his titles. That Wlad wasn't in the Fury fight is a black mark.

Randle P. McMurphy

I'm a long time fan and find it extremely sad to see how boxing has declined over the years. It seems any bum can win the heavyweight title now. Truely depressing to watch the round the clock nonsensical hype churned out by sky sports. If Joshua really believes he'll be a legend after beating this old man he's more dumb than he looks.

walshb

Joshua Points

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Extremely gullible .They always fall for the hype when a British boxer is fighting .
It will be interesting to see if Hearn can sell Wembley out ,but I expect the British public will lap up the biggest fight in British boxing history ,lol

You make it sound like exclusively a British thing. They're in the ha'penny place compared to us as regards hyping and celebrating and bigging up. Can you imagine the hype here if we produced a world class HW?

There's millions of British people who couldn't give a flying fook about Anthony Joshua, and you can bet many of those wouldn't even consider him British.

walshb

Joshua Points

Henno30 wrote: »

A heavyweight champion should be ready and willing to trade. Especially if he's about to lose his titles. That Wlad wasn't in the Fury fight is a black mark.

Absolutely. It was truly a pathetic and cowardly display from the so called HW champion of the world, which used to be seen as the greatest prize in all of sports.

Burial.

Klitschko Points

Fury's movement, outjabbing the jabber and unorthodox tactics is what won him the fight against Wlad. Joshua is robotic, has a very average jab and is very predictable and one dimensional. Hey its worked really well for him so far but I think it's naive to use the Fury fight as a means of judging Wlad. Hold a gun to my head now and I say Wlad will destroy Joshua. I think he realises the threat of the power and will plan for that as he has done in the past and will have an easy night of the one two until he flattens him. Let's not forget Wlad can bang very hard too.

Morrison J

Klitschko Points

Aye Joshua can't fight like Fury so using that fight as a comparison is way off the mark. Completely different style match ups.

MisterAnarchy

walshb wrote: »

You make it sound like exclusively a British thing. They're in the ha'penny place compared to us as regards hyping and celebrating and bigging up. Can you imagine the hype here if we produced a world class HW?

There's millions of British people who couldn't give a flying fook about Anthony Joshua, and you can bet many of those wouldn't even consider him British.

Its not exclusively a British thing ,you only have to look at the Irish buying into the McGregor hype ,flying across the atlantic and spending thousands in MSG .

Hearn has constantly hyped up fights involving British boxers ,most of whom are very average boxers ,but because they are British the British public will fork out money to watch them .
Most of his high profile fights have been rubbish too ,you wouldn't mind if he was delivering decent fights.
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