Leaf Service

pavelpro

I am approaching 32k km on my Leaf and think it is time for the service. THe car has been previously serviced at 16k km almost a year ago.
I did read that Hutton and Meade offer cheaper service and did book with them but after the call they told me 150E for service at is require "full service" with braking fluid change.

Anyone else has any suggestions for the cheaper option and does 32k km is the time for full service.

Quite surprised with the price as on my opinion apart from cabin filter change and possibly braking fluid they do nothing. I was getting the same price even cheaper for my petrol 7 seater VW while ago where oil and filter was changed.

Thank You,

n97 mini

I think some dealers are resisting selling the Leaf as they can't make much money on servicing.

This makes for interesting reading, though my own personal jury is still out.

http://insideevs.com/heres-nissan-recommends-changing-leaf-brake-fluid-annually/

sgalvin

We live in a wet climate and brake fluid has a 2 year interval as it absorbs moisture. It's the same for petrol diesel or electric. Pollen filter is more of a choice and doesn't have warranty impact.

Coolant, brake fluid and pollen filters are never included in "standard" service prices but are chargeable extras that typically appear when you pick up your car.

A basic oil and filter service is about €170
A full service adding spark plugs/ diesel filter and air filter €270
Pollen filter adds €30
Brake fluid change adds €70
Coolant change adds €70
Timing belt adds €500

I don't think €150 is that bad particularly if still under warranty. Service history buys a bit of love if things crop up outside warranty later.

pavelpro wrote: »

I am approaching 32k km on my Leaf and think it is time for the service. THe car has been previously serviced at 16k km almost a year ago.
I did read that Hutton and Meade offer cheaper service and did book with them but after the call they told me 150E for service at is require "full service" with braking fluid change.

Anyone else has any suggestions for the cheaper option and does 32k km is the time for full service.

Quite surprised with the price as on my opinion apart from cabin filter change and possibly braking fluid they do nothing. I was getting the same price even cheaper for my petrol 7 seater VW while ago where oil and filter was changed.

Thank You,

pavelpro

pavelpro wrote: »

I am approaching 32k km on my Leaf and think it is time for the service. THe car has been previously serviced at 16k km almost a year ago.
I did read that Hutton and Meade offer cheaper service and did book with them but after the call they told me 150E for service at is require "full service" with braking fluid change.

Anyone else has any suggestions for the cheaper option and does 32k km is the time for full service.

Quite surprised with the price as on my opinion apart from cabin filter change and possibly braking fluid they do nothing. I was getting the same price even cheaper for my petrol 7 seater VW while ago where oil and filter was changed.

Thank You,

Your Nissan dealer is ripping you off, for starters , the Leaf requires a service once a year or every 30,000 Kms, whichever comes first.

When I say service I mean inspection, pollen filter change and possibly wipers. Oh and not forgetting a "battery check" .

Brake fluid every 2 years. I'd just follow the service manual.

They made the point that the "service" could pick up any potential issues but I am quiet sure if Nissan Motor Co recommends a service once a year or every 30,000 kms then this is more than good enough.

150 euro's sounds steep, the brake fluid does not need to be changed every 15,000 kms or once a year.

It cost me about 110 Euro's to service the Prius with Toyota and they did actual work,...... oil, oil filter.

For the life of the leaf regular maintenance consists of brake fluid changes every 2 years,( and I'd have to go back to the manual to confirm this) pollen filter and wiper changes and battery checks. Coolant probably 160,000 kms though again need to go back tot he manual.

sgalvin

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Your Nissan dealer is ripping you off, for starters , the Leaf requires a service once a year or every 30,000 Kms, whichever comes first.

When I say service I mean inspection, pollen filter change and possibly wipers. Oh and not forgetting a "battery check" .

Brake fluid every 2 years. I'd just follow the service manual.

They made the point that the "service" could pick up any potential issues but I am quiet sure if Nissan Motor Co recommends a service once a year or every 30,000 kms then this is more than good enough.

150 euro's sounds steep, the brake fluid does not need to be changed every 15,000 kms or once a year.

It cost me about 110 Euro's to service the Prius with Toyota and they did actual work,...... oil, oil filter.

For the life of the leaf regular maintenance consists of brake fluid changes every 2 years,( and I'd have to go back to the manual to confirm this) pollen filter and wiper changes and battery checks. Coolant probably 160,000 kms though again need to go back tot he manual.

My understand from the original poster is this is the second service at the 2 year point, so brake fluid and pollen filter is probably due.

I doubt the €110 service in the Prius included a pollen filter or a brake fluid change.
Toyotas own website quotes a typical figure of €160 for the Prius service . €50 extra for brake fluid (2 years interval) and €30 extra for pollen cabin filter (2 year interval)

Main dealer labour is about €100/hr including vat. Adding a pollen filter a bottle of brake fluid and disposal. I don't think €150 is off the mark.
A hour to inspect the brakes, pads, change the brake fluid, pollen filter, a quick test drive and a wash and complete the paperwork is not excessive.
Let's be honest the time to unbolt the sump nut and oil filter is small on an ICE is small but all the other inspections happen whilst oil is draining.

Dealers make money on servicing so will always advise shortening the service interval time and mileage.
The warranty is the manufacturers not the dealers. Comply with the manufacturers instructions not the dealers recommendations.

TBi

sgalvin wrote: »

Comply with the manufacturers instructions not the dealers recommendations.

If I followed manufacturers instructions for my mini I'd have been through an engine rebuild years ago. Unfortunately the dealer recommended the manufacturers service intervals, probably looking forward to a nice bit of cash for the engine rebuild.

Thankfully I went to a mini specialist and started using shorter service intervals. Everyone with a mini who said I was stupid ended up doing engine rebuilds...

pavelpro

sgalvin you correct, i am having 2nd year service and its more tied to the time than to the mileage.

Ive got info from the manual and it should be
1. Replace brake fluid
2. Salon filter
3. Rotate tyres
4. Full inspection
5. Battery report

I doubt that they rotate tyres but will try to mark them to check after and defo remind before the service.
Hope brake fluid will be changed and not top up.. no idea how to check to be sure it was changed...

I have a problems believing the dealers as had bad experience previously

BoatMad

n97 mini wrote: »

I think some dealers are resisting selling the Leaf as they can't make much money on servicing.

This makes for interesting reading, though my own personal jury is still out.

http://insideevs.com/heres-nissan-recommends-changing-leaf-brake-fluid-annually/

Nissan recently made all Nissan dealers EV dealers

zoom_cool

Did this change recently now all Nissan dealers can service Leafs

sgalvin

sgalvin wrote: »

My understand from the original poster is this is the second service at the 2 year point, so brake fluid and pollen filter is probably due.

I doubt the €110 service in the Prius included a pollen filter or a brake fluid change.
Toyotas own website quotes a typical figure of €160 for the Prius service . €50 extra for brake fluid (2 years interval) and €30 extra for pollen cabin filter (2 year interval)

Main dealer labour is about €100/hr including vat. Adding a pollen filter a bottle of brake fluid and disposal. I don't think €150 is off the mark.
A hour to inspect the brakes, pads, change the brake fluid, pollen filter, a quick test drive and a wash and complete the paperwork is not excessive.
Let's be honest the time to unbolt the sump nut and oil filter is small on an ICE is small but all the other inspections happen whilst oil is draining.

Dealers make money on servicing so will always advise shortening the service interval time and mileage.
The warranty is the manufacturers not the dealers. Comply with the manufacturers instructions not the dealers recommendations.

Yes I was charged about 110 euro's from Toyota in Carlow Town for a prius oil and filter change.

I missed where the OP said it's his 2 year service.

n97 mini

BoatMad wrote: »

Nissan recently made all Nissan dealers EV dealers

No I mean they actively try to not sell them, it's as if they don't want to. My own personal experience was of generally being ignored when I mentioned Leaf.

It costs the dealer if I remember correctly about 150,000 to equip and retrain to sell a Leaf. And they have to install a fast charger and provide free electricity. Not many are willing to do this for few sales.

Perhaps when Gen II Leaf appears in 2018 with up to 350-380 kms range it might convince a lot more people to buy electric and might encourage more dealers to sell the leaf.

BoatMad

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It costs the dealer if I remember correctly about 150,000 to equip and retrain to sell a Leaf. And they have to install a fast charger and provide free electricity. Not many are willing to do this for few sales.

Perhaps when Gen II Leaf appears in 2018 with up to 350-380 kms range it might convince a lot more people to buy electric and might encourage more dealers to sell the leaf.

That has all now been removed, Nissan had 11 original EV garages that had to invest etc , Then then reduced the costs to 50,000K and now they appointed all the remainder as long as they invested in some basic training. To say the original EV dealers are not impressed is an understatement !!

k123456

It is surprising that a car with Regen braking needs Brake Fluid changed that often

pavelpro

Service done:) 145.26E in total.
Battery status all 5 stars only 4 stars for QC
All good apart from tyre wear
Front tyres
N/S Front Outer 1mm Middle 3.5mm Inner 4mm
O/S Front Outer 1.6mm Middle 4mm Inner 4mm
Back tyres
N/S Outer 3mm Middle 4mm Inner 5mm
O/S Outer 3mm Middle 5mm Inner 5.5mm

Quite strange to have such difference in each tyre to be wear more at outer side... I presume that front were put to back at first service at about 15k km which explains back wear.. but cant understand the front problem.

It was a thread on UK forums about such problem with UK build leafs, will read about this more
Will be thinking about wheel alighment and will look for the new tyres

BoatMad

pavelpro wrote: »

Service done:) 145.26E in total.
Battery status all 5 stars only 4 stars for QC
All good apart from tyre wear
Front tyres
N/S Front Outer 1mm Middle 3.5mm Inner 4mm
O/S Front Outer 1.6mm Middle 4mm Inner 4mm
Back tyres
N/S Outer 3mm Middle 4mm Inner 5mm
O/S Outer 3mm Middle 5mm Inner 5.5mm

Quite strange to have such difference in each tyre to be wear more at outer side... I presume that front were put to back at first service at about 15k km which explains back wear.. but cant understand the front problem.

It was a thread on UK forums about such problem with UK build leafs, will read about this more
Will be thinking about wheel alighment and will look for the new tyres

I did my first service at 25K Km last week, 3 out of 5 stars on charging , 5 stars on the respects. Surprising as the car does far more slow charges then QCs. Time to pull out leaf spy

BoatMad

BoatMad wrote: »

That has all now been removed, Nissan had 11 original EV garages that had to invest etc , Then then reduced the costs to 50,000K and now they appointed all the remainder as long as they invested in some basic training. To say the original EV dealers are not impressed is an understatement !!

Holy crap is that for real ? wow, I'd be rightly peed off !!!

k123456

k123456 wrote: »

It is surprising that a car with Regen braking needs Brake Fluid changed that often

Yeah me and all, but I guess they're playing it safe.

BoatMad

BoatMad wrote: »

I did my first service at 25K Km last week, 3 out of 5 stars on charging , 5 stars on the respects. Surprising as the car does far more slow charges then QCs. Time to pull out leaf spy

The 3 stars for charging I assume only count the number of fast charges and nothing to do with actual battery data.

Leaf Soy data on a 30 Kwh would be nice, get to it !

BoatMad

Deleted User wrote: »

The 3 stars for charging I assume only count the number of fast charges and nothing to do with actual battery data.

Leaf Soy data on a 30 Kwh would be nice, get to it !

i will , queued up behind lots of other stuff, I have the wifi OBD2 adaptor n'all.

BoatMad

Deleted User wrote: »

The 3 stars for charging I assume only count the number of fast charges and nothing to do with actual battery data.

Yes I suspect its a very crude process and given they dont release what the stars mean, virtually useless ( the garage doesnt know what they means either )

No, seemingly Leaf Spy is the only form of meaningful data.

Who knows what data is sent back to Japan ? every time you press "accept" on the leaf Nav you're sending data to Japan and who knows what data is in it.

BoatMad

ho knows what data is in it.

its all to do with aliens , I tell you