Hijab wearing muslim "attacked" on street

Grayson

Butters1979 wrote: »

BBC report on someone getting their hijab pulled but won't report on this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3831991/Wheelchair-bound-woman-gang-raped-six-migrants-Swedish-asylum-centre-asking-use-toilet.html

And daily mail do it the other way around.

News sites are increasingly reporting a with a bias agenda from both sides, although I ask you which of the two stories are more violent and more 'newsworthy' ?
I've no problem with this being news, as it's not necessarily the isolated event but a larger reflection of tension across Europe right now. However I take issue that other stories are ignored completely because they don't want to offend anyone.

Facebook is worse. You click like on a story where trump is shouting about Hillary and suddenly you'll never see a story about hillary shouting about Trump. (and the reverse is true).

Considering 30-40% of the US gets its news from social media it just generates bias.

YouTube is a little bit better. Considering I tend to watch stuff like the daily show I still get the occasional right wing video in my suggested videos. Not many but a few. It's still far more than facebook offers.

Butters1979

whisky_galore wrote: »

One is a sensationalist populist publication whilst Auntie Beeb is an ultra pc broadcaster.

One is someone having their hijab pulled down, the other is a disabled woman been gang raped.

Reporting on which would you says is sensationalist?

Grayson

whisky_galore wrote: »

One is a sensationalist populist publication whilst Auntie Beeb is an ultra pc broadcaster.

Well, it could be said that the BBC is a public service broadcaster in the UK. This story is a little bit out of it's remit. Since the hijab story occurred in the UK it is something they might report on. The story in the mail is a sexual assault that occurred in another country.

I would say that if you draw comparisons then you would need to compare like with like. So compare the a left wing paper with a right wing paper.

I haven't actually seen that story anywhere so you'd still be right. If it was a sexual assault in India it probably would have been in the news in both. But it probably would have been front page news in both papers.

Still I think having people decide what is news worthy is probably better than the facebook method where a computer decides.

I have to admit though, I can't stand the mail. I know every paper needs clicks and so is to some extent generating "Clickbait", that is, generating articles that will be read. But the mail has jumped the shark.

kittensmittens

I was nearly garroted by the hood on my duffel coat as a kid being reefed off me on the way home from school.
Happens all the time....to an awful lot of people.
Does it make it ok? No
Does it make it assault? Fukc no

wes

kittensmittens wrote: »

I was nearly garroted by the hood on my duffel coat as a kid being reefed off me on the way home from school.
Happens all the time....to an awful lot of people.
Does it make it ok? No
Does it make it assault? Fukc no

It is assault:

assault
əˈsɔːlt,əˈsɒlt/
verb
verb: assault; 3rd person present: assaults; past tense: assaulted; past participle: assaulted; gerund or present participle: assaulting

1.
make a physical attack on.
"he pleaded guilty to assaulting a police officer"

A physical attack, which is what happened. Again, what possible reason could anyone have to say its not an assault? Sorry, but people are tieing themselves in knots for no good reason.

FTA69

kittensmittens wrote: »

I was nearly garroted by the hood on my duffel coat as a kid being reefed off me on the way home from school.
Happens all the time....to an awful lot of people.
Does it make it ok? No
Does it make it assault? Fukc no

Were you targeted by random strangers because of your ethnic and religious background in a context of an upsurge in street xenophobia? Did the people who pulled your coat off do it in a context where they knew they'd cause maximum offence to your sensibilities and heritage?

Because if the above wasn't the case then your analogy is rubbish to put it lightly.

Butters1979

wes wrote: »

It is assault:


A physical attack, which is what happened. Again, what possible reason could anyone have to say its not an assault? Sorry, but people are tieing themselves in knots for no good reason.

I don't often agree with Wes, but it's an assault, and a cowardly one at that.

Widdershins

Is there really an upsurge of xenophobia or is it being highlighted more, post brexit..

FTA69

Widdershins wrote: »

Is there really an upsurge of xenophobia or is it being highlighted more, post brexit..

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-eu-referendum-racial-racism-abuse-hate-crime-reported-latest-leave-immigration-a7104191.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/30/police-report-fivefold-increase-race-hate-crimes-since-brexit-result

According to the cops there has been anyway.

Widdershins

Widdershins wrote: »

Is there really an upsurge of xenophobia or is it being highlighted more, post brexit..

There's no more xenophobia now than before; but what Brexit did was embolden the bigots into being more visible, since they assume that because they voted Brexit because of Johnny Foreigner, everyone voted Brexit for the same reason.

And a substantial number did, but I think a greater number did out of what they felt were legit concerns about sovereignty, autonomy and out-of-control immigration - or at least the perception of it. Skewed perception was responsible for a great deal of the vote imo.

There are more overt acts of racism and xenophobia, and the press is rightly highlighting it. Hopefully holding up that mirror will do something towards changing it, but I suspect it won't be for quite a while yet.