New routes and extra services from Dublin Bus

StreetLight

New routes set to commence in October:

31d - Baldoyle to DCU
42d - Portmarnock to DCU
68x - Newcastle to City Centre
70d - Dunboyne to DCU


Extra departures on Routes 25d, 84x and more peak hour helpers along certain corridors.

TheChrisD

The 70d going through Blanch village and Castleknock at that hour of the morning is a recipe for disaster. I'd be very surprised if it makes the advertised 8:30am arrival time.

MrMorooka

http://dublinbus.ie/News-Centre/General-News/Introduction-of-three-new-routes-serving-DCU/

http://dublinbus.ie/News-Centre/General-News/Introduction-of-Route-68x/

Maybe 'routes' is a bit generous- the DCU routes are a single return trip a day(in in the morning and out in the evening), and the 68x seems to just be one trip. Also the maps on the timetables page for the new routes don't work.

jamo2oo9

TheChrisD wrote: »

The 70d going through Blanch village and Castleknock at that hour of the morning is a recipe for disaster. I'd be very surprised if it makes the advertised 8:30am arrival time.

Those times are offpeak but I'd imagine they'd push the departure back earlier to compensate the time lost due to rush hour traffic.

And iirc, most of the route has a bus lane between Blanchardstown and DCU.

January

TheChrisD wrote: »

The 70d going through Blanch village and Castleknock at that hour of the morning is a recipe for disaster. I'd be very surprised if it makes the advertised 8:30am arrival time.

At 7.15 really? I'd have thought after 8am definitely, but before 8 it will sail through.

TheChrisD

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

And iirc, most of the route has a bus lane between Blanchardstown and DCU.

Doesn't use very much of it though, since it follows the 37 routing alongside the Phoenix Park. So it'll get bus lane from Halfway House to Nephin Road and that's it.

January wrote: »

At 7.15 really? I'd have thought after 8am definitely, but before 8 it will sail through.

Maybe my timings are off, I'm just remembering when I used to get the bus to school when living in Blanch about ten years ago and the entire village and C'knock were nothing but a jam from around half 7. I'm also probably mistiming the length of the first half of the journey since upon reading into it more, it doesn't seem to serve Littlepace.

jamo2oo9

TheChrisD wrote: »

Doesn't use very much of it though, since it follows the 37 routing alongside the Phoenix Park. So it'll get bus lane from Halfway House to Nephin Road and that's it.



Maybe my timings are off, I'm just remembering when I used to get the bus to school when living in Blanch about ten years ago and the entire village and C'knock were nothing but a jam from around half 7. I'm also probably mistiming the length of the first half of the journey since upon reading into it more, it doesn't seem to serve Littlepace.

There's also Finglas Rd and Ballymun Rd. They both have bus lanes running through the full length of it. It'll be a breeze when it gets to that point.

the groutch

with the 84x I would have liked to have seen the number of stops it uses reduced.
far too many people use it as an extra 46a/145, denying usage to people who actually need it, and less stops would go a long way to combat this problem.

boobycharlton

Was hoping for later night services when I saw the thread title. More's the fool me. City still closes at 11:30pm in the opinion of the NTA/DB.

cherryghost

Thought Lucan was already well served. Other areas need more varying routes.

jamo2oo9

Hadn't noticed that there'd be extra services added for the bus corridors. Does anyone know what buses will get extra services on the Ballymun Rd?

4 or 13?

LXFlyer

boobycharlton wrote: »

Was hoping for later night services when I saw the thread title. More's the fool me. City still closes at 11:30pm in the opinion of the NTA/DB.

Given that there are capacity issues at peak times across most corridors I would suggest that addressing that issue should be the first priority.

I've no doubt that night time services will come, but right now addressing the existing capacity issues has to be the top priority.

Additional capacity on key corridors
Additional peak journeys will operate from Monday 17 October on the following corridors Ballymun, Finglas, Lucan, Templeogue, Malahide and Harold’s Cross.

Dyr

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

Hadn't noticed that there'd be extra services added for the bus corridors. Does anyone know what buses will get extra services on the Ballymun Rd?

4 or 13?

DCU won't look after Dublin Bus for increasing line capacity on those routes. This is Ireland after all.

jamo2oo9

Bambi wrote: »

DCU won't look after Dublin Bus for increasing line capacity on those routes. This is Ireland after all.

Quoted from the DB website

Additional capacity on key corridors
Additional peak journeys will operate from Monday 17 October on the following corridors Ballymun, Finglas, Lucan, Templeogue, Malahide and Harold’s Cross.

https://www.dublinbus.ie/News-Centre/General-News/Timetable-Changes-on-Routes-25d-and-84x/

coylemj

Feck - when I saw '68X Newcastle to Fleet St.', I thought it was a new route from Newcastle in Co. Wicklow into town, the 84/a currently only goes as far as Blackrock. I think the odd one (suffix 'h' in the timetable) goes to St. Vincent's Hospital.

Maybe it's time to update their 'Network News' page with those route changes, the last update was August 24th .....

http://www.dublinbus.ie/Network-News/

cherryghost

The 68X has had a crappy start. Late for stops on the Nangor road and 30 mins late into town today as they had to replace the bus at the depot TWICE apparently.

Sidenote, I've been informed by NTA that a new orbital route will begin soon from Tallaght - Liffey Valley - Blanchardstown SC via Fonthill Road.

Dyr

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

Quoted from the DB website



https://www.dublinbus.ie/News-Centre/General-News/Timetable-Changes-on-Routes-25d-and-84x/

Its November now, any sign of those additional buses?


More orbital routes can only be a good thing, its madness sending customers into the city centre and then back out in the same direction.

StreetLight

Bambi wrote: »

Its November now, any sign of those additional buses?

They're already operating. They slot in along the corridors when required to help out the regular buses, so they don't have a specific timetable.

Dyr

StreetLight wrote: »

They're already operating. They slot in along the corridors when required to help out the regular buses, so they don't have a specific timetable.

So they don't have a timetable, i.e.no service increase.

January

cherryghost wrote: »

The 68X has had a crappy start. Late for stops on the Nangor road and 30 mins late into town today as they had to replace the bus at the depot TWICE apparently.

Sidenote, I've been informed by NTA that a new orbital route will begin soon from Tallaght - Liffey Valley - Blanchardstown SC via Fonthill Road.

Wonder will they be scrapping the 76a so.

thomasj

January wrote: »

Wonder will they be scrapping the 76a so.

Sounds like the 76A is the enhanced route..................

cherryghost

January wrote: »

Wonder will they be scrapping the 76a so.

Maybe, 76 will still run normally.

The Authority is progressing the implementation of a number of additional orbital services, one of which will link Tallaght, Liffey Valley and Blanchardstown, operating via Clondalkin (Fonthill Road). Clondalkin Village will continue to be served by Dublin Bus Route 76.

StreetLight

cherryghost wrote: »

Maybe, 76 will still run normally.

The 76 hasn't run normally for years. Drivers are given one hour to do a journey, but which can only be done in 90 minutes are certain times of the day. It will only get much worse in the run-up to Christmas with a lot of daytime journeys certain to be missed. Let's hope some of those "extra services" can fill the gaps in this one.

cherryghost

Sorry for dragging up 3 month old thread. 68x situation is dire already. I gave it another go this week. 30 minutes late into town. About half the passengers not there anymore. Same passengers I see lined up for the 151 earlier in the morning as that's the one I usually take and normally gets into down +/- 10 minutes even in congestion.

Unless the bus leaves 10/15mins early to avoid the congestion at Bluebell I wouldn't be surprised if it was wound up again.

ongarboy

The 40 bus to Finglas will be extended to Charlestown Shopping Centre.

http://www.dublinpeople.com/news/northsidewest/articles/2017/01/31/4133914-finglas-bus-route-will-be-extended-to-charlestown/

lucernarian

ongarboy wrote: »

The 40 bus to Finglas will be extended to Charlestown Shopping Centre.

http://www.dublinpeople.com/news/northsidewest/articles/2017/01/31/4133914-finglas-bus-route-will-be-extended-to-charlestown/

Considering the criticism it's received since Network Direct, is it at all wise to extend it without an increase in frequency also?

pclive

lucernarian wrote: »

Considering the criticism it's received since Network Direct, is it at all wise to extend it without an increase in frequency also?

new timetable will be put in place also

StreetLight

pclive wrote: »

new timetable will be put in place also

This will do nothing for reliability of the route. The only thing that will change on the timetable is to replace the word Finglas with Charlestown.

pclive

New timetable will have extra departures/buses and allow extra time to complete the route

cherryghost

68x 30 minutes late this morning

Won't be using it again myself. I'll keep monitoring RTPI I guess.

StreetLight

pclive wrote: »

New timetable will have extra departures/buses and allow extra time to complete the route

So where are the extra departures on the new timetable?