WWE Survivor Series 2016 Discussion (spoilers)

Mr.Nice Guy

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It's disappointing that there doesn't appear to be anything on the line in the Raw vs Smackdown matches.

I would have liked to see Shane and Stephanie make some deal where whichever show wins the most matches on the night gets the right to enter negotiations with one wrestler on the opposite brand.

e.g. If Smackdown win 2-1 over the course of the 3 matches then Smackdown can acquire a wrestler from Raw. Daniel Bryan a few months back told Cesaro on Raw he thought he was under-utilized so you could do a storyline where Bryan tries to woo Cesaro to Smackdown and Foley tries to convince him to stay on Raw. Maybe in the end he decides to stay on Raw to get the tag titles.

At least that way you give the fans a reason to care about the outcome. I don't see why I should care about Raw or Smackdown winning these matches as it seems like it's just going to end with Stephanie gloating if Raw win, or emasculating several wrestlers if Raw lose. Big whoop.

CastorTroy

So with all the champs in the elimination matches, who will be in the other matches if they're planning on filling a 4 hour show?
So
the three tag matches
Brock/Goldrberg
CW title match

CSF

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Wyatt and Orton will be in some kind of match I guess.

PTH2009

Team SD is Randy Orton, Bray Wyatt, Baron Corbin, AJ Styles and Dean Ambrose

SD Women's Team is Niki Bella, Becky Lynch, Naomi, Alexa Bliss and Carmella with Natalya as coach

SD Tag Teams are American Alpha, Rhyno/Slater, hype bros with 2 spots remaining

CSF

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This looks like such a writeoff of a PPV already.

JP Liz V1

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So who is likely from Raw to accept Ziggler's IC title challenge

PTH2009

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

So who is likely from Raw to accept Ziggler's IC title challenge

Rusev or Zayn

JP Liz V1

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PTH2009 wrote: »

Rusev or Zayn

I thought Zayn was on Team Raw

Lord TSC

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I thought Zayn was on Team Raw

Haha, no. Not a chance he'd be given a main event spot. Team Raw is

Roman, Owens, Jericho, Corbin

and while not confirmed yet, it looks like the fifth member will be

Rollins

. I'd also be amazed if he gets the IC shot either. WWE don't seem to care about pushing him at all.

Bounty Hunter

Lord TSC wrote: »

Haha, no. Not a chance he'd be given a main event spot. Team Raw is

Roman, Owens, Jericho, Corbin

and while not confirmed yet, it looks like the fifth member will be

Rollins

. I'd also be amazed if he gets the IC shot either. WWE don't seem to care about pushing him at all.

Does losing to Ziggler in a non promoted appearance really count as a push though?

I'm not expecting him but him answering an open challenge would actually fit with the storyline reason he has even been on TV recently be it him and Neville answering Bo/Axels open challenge or Brauns demands for competitiion...

I wouldn't be shocked if he annoys Braun to further their storyline on Raw and then when he answers Zigglers challenge Braun interfers to cost him the match. Hell he could even then interfere to cost Braun in the Survivor Series singles elimination match as I doubt they will have Braun eliminated clean if he is eliminated that is.

PTH2009

Lord TSC wrote: »

Haha, no. Not a chance he'd be given a main event spot. Team Raw is

Roman, Owens, Jericho, Corbin

and while not confirmed yet, it looks like the fifth member will be

Rollins

. I'd also be amazed if he gets the IC shot either. WWE don't seem to care about pushing him at all.

u got

Corbin and Strowman mixed up. Corbin is on Team SD, Strowman on team raw

SureYWouldntYa

Lord TSC wrote: »

WWE don't seem to care about pushing him at all.

It's so bloody stupid he's done nothing in 4 months since beating Owens to end their feud

An absolute waste

CastorTroy

Was just thinking Smackdown need a big match on this show. Raw has Goldberg/Brock and the CW title. Also a Smackdown title is being defended against a Raw guy (for now). So what has Smackdown got that's exclusive to them?

Virtanen

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CastorTroy wrote: »

Was just thinking Smackdown need a big match on this show. Raw has Goldberg/Brock and the CW title. Also a Smackdown title is being defended against a Raw guy (for now). So what has Smackdown got that's exclusive to them?

Wishful thinking, but

Undertaker vs Cena? Taker is coming back to SD the week before, so not entirely impossible. Could even be the first of three, with the rubber match being the much-rumoured WM encounter?

martyos121

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Virtanen wrote: »

Wishful thinking, but

Undertaker vs Cena? Taker is coming back to SD the week before, so not entirely impossible. Could even be the first of three, with the rubber match being the much-rumoured WM encounter?

Cena isn't around until the end of December, off filming his TV show. Survivor Series was the one appearance of his that wasn't cancelled originally but it has been now apparently.

PTH2009

Kane too get help from his Brother the Undertaker to fight the Wyatts and Orton ???

Kane/Taker vs Orton/Bray Wyatt at TLC

Would love to see Cena vs Taker at Mania. It would work even better if Cena was the heel

beakerjoe

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PTH2009 wrote: »

Kane too get help from his Brother the Undertaker to fight the Wyatts and Orton ???

Kane/Taker vs Orton/Bray Wyatt at TLC

Would love to see Cena vs Taker at Mania. It would work even better if Cena was the heel

Minus Orton, this happened last year and it stunk up the joint. Im grand thanks Vince

DM_7

Are they moving IC title to RAW in place of the cruiserweight title?

CastorTroy

Sure they barely care about the Cruiserweight title anyway. And losing the IC title wouldn't only be a bad idea, but it would also make Dolph look bad. Again.

demanufactured

Crap looking ppv apart from the goldberg return.....gone are the good old days of early 90s survivor series....

Lord TSC

Anyone else reckon Corbin pulls out of the Raw vs Smackdown match, with the whole "I don't do teams!" thing? Leaves Smackdown scrambling for someone new. Then Miz pops up, and says he'll save Bryan and join the team, only for Bryan to opt instead to go with Ellsworth, putting him into the match?

PTH2009

Lord TSC wrote: »

Anyone else reckon Corbin pulls out of the Raw vs Smackdown match, with the whole "I don't do teams!" thing? Leaves Smackdown scrambling for someone new. Then Miz pops up, and says he'll save Bryan and join the team, only for Bryan to opt instead to go with Ellsworth, putting him into the match?

maybe corbin pulls out and as the miz is about to the be named in the team, the undertaker comes out and attacks the miz and is named in team SD.

could start a taker storyline with Strowman

Mr.Nice Guy

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Lord TSC wrote: »

Anyone else reckon Corbin pulls out of the Raw vs Smackdown match, with the whole "I don't do teams!" thing? Leaves Smackdown scrambling for someone new. Then Miz pops up, and says he'll save Bryan and join the team, only for Bryan to opt instead to go with Ellsworth, putting him into the match?

That would be great and would play into his 'lone wolf' schtick. Hope this happens.

WinnyThePoo

I would have went with Ziggler as captain . Stands to reason. Ziggler beat the authority a couple of survivor series ago. He perhaps gained the most from the draft putting it on the line and becoming I.C champ.

Furious-Red

Would be cool to do a similar angle like SS 2001. When Jericho gets eliminated and returns and goes from the Rock. So you could have Ziggler/Miz as the last two and Miz gets eliminated and then gets back in the ring and hits Ziggler with the Skull crushing finale , but he kicks out.

sky88

Furious-Red wrote: »

Would be cool to do a similar angle like SS 2001. When Jericho gets eliminated and returns and goes from the Rock. So you could have Ziggler/Miz as the last two and Miz gets eliminated and then gets back in the ring and hits Ziggler with the Skull crushing finale , but he kicks out.

wasnt jericho using the skull crushing finale then as well?

Furious-Red

sky88 wrote: »

wasnt jericho using the skull crushing finale then as well?

Weirdly enough yes

Itssoeasy

Furious-Red wrote: »

Would be cool to do a similar angle like SS 2001. When Jericho gets eliminated and returns and goes from the Rock. So you could have Ziggler/Miz as the last two and Miz gets eliminated and then gets back in the ring and hits Ziggler with the Skull crushing finale , but he kicks out.

Funny enough I watched the winner take all match from ss2001 and the match is actually okay. I've seen people bash it online so decided to rewatch it. I think the reason might not like it is because it was the culmination of the horrible invasion Angle.

So yeah good main event.

Also three of the six women in the six pack challenge are in the WWE HOF trish,lita, Jaqueline. Molly holly, ivory and jazz were the other three.

Lord TSC

Smackdown Spoilers.

Match added.

CW Title Match
Kendrick vs Kalisto

If Kalisto wins, the title and the entire division moves to Smackdown.

PTH2009

think the elimination best 5 stars match will end the PPV and can go 2 ways

1- Raw wins when Brock is send out by Steph (Foley will be annoyed about it after) and he attacks Shane and whatever raw member is left pins him

2- SD wins when Triple H interferes and attacks Rollins and shane will pin him for the victory

3- NXT invasion led by Triple H and Samoa Joe. no winner

its deff going to be 1-1 going into the last match

Goldberg to beat Lesner i think