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VAT for windows sourced in the North

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  • 12-10-2016 3:22pm
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    Cookiepus
    Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭


    Hi
    sorry if this has been asked before but:
    what is the story with VAT if we use a window company (supply & fit) from Northern Ireland?
    Our project (if it makes any difference) is not a new build, but as good as.
    A decrepit old house completely gutted with large new extension added.
    Many Thanks
    Cookie


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    223vmax
    Registered Users Posts: 475 ✭✭223vmax


    They'll charge you VAT and you'll have to pay it. Unless you're VAT registered here which is applicable cross border within EU.


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    martinn123
    Registered Users Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123


    You pay the standard UK VAT rate, currently 20%.


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    Cookiepus
    Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭Cookiepus


    Thanks Lads
    So its + 20%
    we have builder running the project
    would it make any difference if he made the order?


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    223vmax
    Registered Users Posts: 475 ✭✭223vmax


    Regardless the VAT would pass through to you....


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    Paul Kiernan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,179 ✭✭✭Paul Kiernan


    My understanding is the UK provider applies Irish VAT i.e. 23% if he supplies them only and 13.5% if he fits them.


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    martinn123
    Registered Users Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123


    Cookiepus wrote: »
    Thanks Lads
    So its + 20%
    we have builder running the project
    would it make any difference if he made the order?

    Assuming he's registered for VAT here in the South, he can purchase the goods at 0% from UK.

    He then adds on a margin for his profit, fits them and charges you 13.5%

    Discuss this and get a price from the Builder.

    If you buy them, who will fit?


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    martinn123
    Registered Users Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123


    Paul Kiernan wrote: »
    My understanding is the UK provider applies Irish VAT i.e. 23% if he supplies them only and 13.5% if he fits them.

    Only if he operates part of his business here in the South, is registered here for Irish VAT, and pays his Irish Taxes here in the South


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    Paul Kiernan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,179 ✭✭✭Paul Kiernan


    martinn123 wrote: »
    Only if he operates part of his business here in the South, is registered here for Irish VAT, and pays his Irish Taxes here in the South
    What if he's supplying and fitting the windows but isn't registered for Irish VAT? It could be a one-off job and he's under the threshold which requires him to register for Irish VAT. Does that mean he doesn't have to charge VAT?


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    martinn123
    Registered Users Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123


    Paul Kiernan wrote: »
    What if he's supplying and fitting the windows but isn't registered for Irish VAT? It could be a one-off job and he's under the threshold which requires him to register for Irish VAT. Does that mean he doesn't have to charge VAT?

    At the UK Rate of 20% , yes, assuming he's registered in the UK.


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    house2013
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭house2013


    I don't mean to hijack the thread but this has raised an interesting issue for me.

    If our builder is supplying & fitting velux windows (Irish Contractor and Registered for VAT) do we pay 13.5% VAT or 23% VAT?


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    martinn123
    Registered Users Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123


    house2013 wrote: »
    I don't mean to hijack the thread but this has raised an interesting issue for me.

    If our builder is supplying & fitting velux windows (Irish Contractor and Registered for VAT) do we pay 13.5% VAT or 23% VAT?

    13.5%, supply and fit.


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    Robert Allen
    Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭Robert Allen


    Apologies for going off topic but - did you notice a saving to be had with the Windows from the North or why did you decide to get them there?

    We are looking to order windows soon ourselves and have been quoted in the region of 17,000 for windows by several Irish companies.

    Best of luck with your Job,

    Thanks.


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    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,543 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    223vmax wrote: »
    Regardless the VAT would pass through to you....

    If he's bar registered he won't have to pay the VAT and with the 2/3 rule he can charge out the service VAT rates of 13.5%
    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vat/leaflets/mixed-supplies-goods-services.html#section7-6


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