Depressing lack of dress sense.

Irish Guitarist

Have you ever thought about minding your own business and not staring at men? You must be easily depressed.

BabyE

ITT: Neckbeards who went to college wearing three piece suits complain about guys wearing t-shirts.4

Listen up for the last time, a guys face(first of all), hair, height and body(lastly) are what make the guy, if you saw David Beckham or Zac Efron in beat up grey bottoms and a shirt, it would look trendy because they are good looking. Its not the clothes that make the man, you think you are repulsed by clothes but I'd wager that many of the guys you noticed were dressed fine, but look ugly so they experience the 'FAILO' affects whereby you jude their style worse because of their facial looks.

I struggle to care about how I look but generally look fine. I'm 29 and I rotate some black, blue and brown jeans, have about 15 tshirts and 3 pairs of runners.

I actually have a good bit of tailored stuff but I can dress really casually for work so never bother wearing them.
My life wouldn't improve in the slightest if I wore my nice clothes. I'd have the same girlfriend, same job and same friends.

If you're into fashion, fine. But don't expect others to care about anything except cleanliness. A man I work with has very nice shirts and slacks but it's noticeable he wears the same two days in a row. That's worse than me wearing different cheap t-shirts. If they weren't so "nice", people wouldn't notice. But they look good and people remember.

y0ssar1an22

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I’m back in Ireland at the moment on important company business. After a mediocre meal in a restaurant in Grand Canal Dock yesterday evening, I decided to take a stroll around the city centre. Apart from the extensive roadworks to facilitate the building of the Luas, what immediately struck me was the appalling dress sense of the average Irish male. I’ve passed remarks on it before, but I couldn’t help but notice it in all its dreadfulness yesterday evening.
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i dont know if this is a parody account or not, but that useless piece of information gave me a laugh

murpho999

Deleted User wrote: »

I struggle to care about how I look but generally look fine. I'm 29 and I rotate some black, blue and brown jeans, have about 15 tshirts and 3 pairs of runners.

I actually have a good bit of tailored stuff but I can dress really casually for work so never bother wearing them.
My life wouldn't improve in the slightest if I wore my nice clothes. I'd have the same girlfriend, same job and same friends.

If you're into fashion, fine. But don't expect others to care about anything except cleanliness. A man I work with has very nice shirts and slacks but it's noticeable he wears the same two days in a row. That's worse than me wearing different cheap t-shirts. If they weren't so "nice", people wouldn't notice. But they look good and people remember.

At the risk of this turning into a "how often you shower" discussion. I agree with wearing a fresh shirt every day but don't see the issue with wearing the same slacks? I see plenty of other people doing so too, surely I'm not alone on that?

somesoldiers

murpho999 wrote: »

At the risk of this turning into a "how often you shower" discussion. I agree with wearing a fresh shirt every day but don't see the issue with wearing the same slacks? I see plenty of other people doing so too, surely I'm not alone on that?

I get two days out of suit trousers and jeans

Chinasea

You forgot the manky, stained, sloppy gray tracksuit bottoms.

These are pandemic.

ThinkProgress

When I observe how some folk on this island dress, it just strikes me as a visual marker of their lack of subtlety in general...

For the most part, we are a very open honest in your face kind of people. We're loud and colourful people... And that shows in how people dress!

I'm only half Irish, so I've always felt a tad on the periphery in some respects. I've always assumed this is the reason my dress sense is so markedly different from many of my Irish friends...

The funny thing is, I dress quite conservative by nature... I assume my subconscious motivation is to blend in and become somewhat invisible.

And that would probably work very well in another part of the world. But since I'm surrounded by people who dress in a loud way, designed to stand out, I sense it might be having the opposite effect... lol

Alun

murpho999 wrote: »

I agree with wearing a fresh shirt every day but don't see the issue with wearing the same slacks?

To be honest I'd be more worried about the tendency to use American words like slacks and pants to describe trousers to be honest.

Wibbs

Alun wrote: »

To be honest I'd be more worried about the tendency to use American words like slacks and pants to describe trousers to be honest.

The word "slacks" itself wrinkles my nose. The clue is in the name itself. They're such a beige non committal piece of apparel.

TommyKnocker

Damn, I must have missed the memo When did it come out? Can somebody forward it on to me please?

There was me as an Irish male going around merrily thinking that I had free will and freedom of choice and could dress how I liked and wear whatever footwear I liked as long as I was comfortable, clean and happy with my choices. I never knew I was expected to ascribe to the "Irish Male Dress Code", that there was a standard to maintain.

Again if somebody could forward on the memo which tells me what I should wear to conform I would be most grateful

Dr Crayfish

Not that I am one to dish out fashion advice but boot cut jeans are just awful, and only seen in Ireland for as long as I can remember.
Personally I love the clothes you can wear when it's summer weather, how I long to live in sunnier climes...
Also didn't the OP post an attack on Irish fashion and boot cut jeans before? I'm sure I remember this exact thread.

Alun

Wibbs wrote: »

The word "slacks" itself wrinkles my nose. The clue is in the name itself. They're such a beige non committal piece of apparel.

I hadn't heard the word used myself for several decades until I moved here, and then it usually referred to horrible stretchy crimplene trousers my mum wore in England back in the 60's and 70's, definitely not men's trousers.

Ush1

You need some new material AvB, just rehashing the same old things at this stage.

Letree

BabyE wrote: »

ITT: Neckbeards who went to college wearing three piece suits complain about guys wearing t-shirts.4

Listen up for the last time, a guys face(first of all), hair, height and body(lastly) are what make the guy, if you saw David Beckham or Zac Efron in beat up grey bottoms and a shirt, it would look trendy because they are good looking. Its not the clothes that make the man, you think you are repulsed by clothes but I'd wager that many of the guys you noticed were dressed fine, but look ugly so they experience the 'FAILO' affects whereby you jude their style worse because of their facial looks.

Are you speaking for all women?

You are prob right about the two you mention above but even they would look better dressed better. Everyone does.

Atticus Jung

mariaalice wrote: »

It is a bit peculiar to see men in their thirties and forties dressed in hoodies and the like, I also think it is rude not to go to a wedding or a funeral appropriately dressed. I will probably be shot down for this but I think the Marks and Spencer
Collezione range gets the balance between smart and wearable right for men.

http://www.marksandspencer.com/l/men/collezione.

Maybe its the way things are going but id feel like a tosser walking round Dublin dressed like this. Never mind any other part of the country

fryup

we're getting better in fairness i think

should have been here in the 80s OP, wall to wall parker jackets & duffell coats

Pighead

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

TK Maxx must be doing a good trade in Ireland as the number of tatty looking shirts with horizontal stripes being worn in public can testify.

Horizontal stripes eh?

https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/73212/179174.jpg

Aongus strides into the corridors of After Hours straight from the catwalk in Milan still wearing his ill fitting hat, tatty shorts and cheap looking horizontal striped t-shirt.

Like Donald Trump giving a lecture to sex offenders.

Wibbs

Ahhh Pighead. The relief. AvB, that's how it's done. A three watt version of Ross O'Carroll Kelly, itself a busted flush of a character, is not the way to go.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

A man I work with has very nice shirts and slacks but it's noticeable he wears the same two days in a row. That's worse than me wearing different cheap t-shirts. If they weren't so "nice", people wouldn't notice. But they look good and people remember.

Nonsense, nothing at all wrong with wearing a shirt or t-shirt two days in a row. I would always get two days wear out of a shirt or t-shirt (as would the vast majority of men where I work) I see it as total over kill changing them everyday. Jeans and trousers etc would get far more than two days wear once nothing was spilled on them etc between 7 and 14 days would be standard for me. Hard to believe people would wash their jeans or trousers after only one or two wears.

MagicIRL

I don't know whats worse...

People giving this much of a **** about what other people wear...or the people trying to justify what they were to some anonymous internet poster.

steddyeddy

MagicIRL wrote: »

I don't know whats worse...

People giving this much of a **** about what other people wear...or the people trying to justify what they were to some anonymous internet poster.

Or people agreeing with some anonymous internet poster who is taking the pistachio.

suicide_circus

Nash Poor Sluggishness wrote: »

Nonsense, nothing at all wrong with wearing a shirt or t-shirt two days in a row. I would always get two days wear out of a shirt or t-shirt (as would the vast majority of men where I work) I see it as total over kill changing them everyday. Jeans and trousers etc would get far more than two days wear once nothing was spilled on them etc between 7 and 14 days would be standard for me. Hard to believe people would wash their jeans or trousers after only one or two wears.

If I was sitting perfectly still in a perfectly air-conditioned environment for my working day I would get two days out of a shirt. But I'm not, so I dont.

kfallon

Nash Poor Sluggishness wrote: »

Jeans and trousers etc would get far more than two days wear once nothing was spilled on them etc between 7 and 14 days would be standard for me. Hard to believe people would wash their jeans or trousers after only one or two wears.

No ball sweat? 7-14 days me hole!

Letree

14 days with the same jeans on you might not smell yourself anymore but others can

Boom_Bap

You don't need to wash denim jeans regularly.

Arbitrary

To quote Shaw, a fashion is nothing but an induced epidemic. To the OP, future generations will laugh at what your current perception of dress sense is. Get over yourself.

Gazzmonkey

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I’m back in Ireland at the moment on important company business. After a mediocre meal in a restaurant in Grand Canal Dock yesterday evening, I decided to take a stroll around the city centre. Apart from the extensive roadworks to facilitate the building of the Luas, what immediately struck me was the appalling dress sense of the average Irish male. I’ve passed remarks on it before, but I couldn’t help but notice it in all its dreadfulness yesterday evening.

Observations:

An obsession with ill-fitting jeans from American brands. Lots of light blue denim, bootcuts, jeans with too much detailing. There’s a debate to be had whether men past their 30’s should wear jeans anyway, but if you must, then invest in a sensible pair of dark denim that suit your build and frame. Having the ends of your jeans tattered because they get caught between your shoes and the road just isn’t on.

Shoes. Are there only two types of shoe available to the average Irishman: runners or pointy toe slip-ons? There are few things that scream, “I don’t give a curse about my appearance” than seeing a man in his 30’s or 40’s wearing converse runners or those disgusting skateboard style shoes. The 90’s are over. The pointed toe brown slip-on isn’t quite as bad, but you always feel that the wearer just picked up a pair of catch all shoes in some bargain shelf during a sale in Dunnes.

TK Maxx must be doing a good trade in Ireland as the number of tatty looking shirts with horizontal stripes being worn in public can testify. A load bearing belt supporting a beer belly was all too common last night, especially when I was passing pubs where red-faced bores were standing outside guffawing and pulling on cigarettes. Not tucking in your shirt doesn’t disguise the stomach lads.

Haircuts: short back and sides from the cheapest place you can find seems to be the thinking. You end up looking like something from Deliverance as a result, but that doesn’t seem to bother most of them.

I’m an extremely well-travelled man and I can safely say that the average Irishman is the least fashionable breed of human on this planet. What is the reason for this? Is it something to do with poverty or Mammy doing everything for them? It’s depressing. Dressing well and spending a bit of money on a good haircut can make a huge difference to someone who wouldn’t exactly be blessed with ‘classic good looks’. Don’t get me started on teeth.

You certainly have a high opinion of yourself :rolleyes:

Are you that unhappy about your looks that you need to make stupid comments to feel less crap?

kfallon

Gazzmonkey wrote: »

You certainly have a high opinion of yourself :rolleyes:

Are you that unhappy about your looks that you need to make stupid comments to feel less crap?

It's just his usual sad trolling, comes on with the aim to offend everyone, posts an OP, leaves the thread for good and hopes to watch the bickering & arguing ensue!

Suppose he has to do something inbetween **** into a sock!

murpho999

Alun wrote: »

To be honest I'd be more worried about the tendency to use American words like slacks and pants to describe trousers to be honest.

Wibbs wrote: »

The word "slacks" itself wrinkles my nose. The clue is in the name itself. They're such a beige non committal piece of apparel.

Alun wrote: »

I hadn't heard the word used myself for several decades until I moved here, and then it usually referred to horrible stretchy crimplene trousers my mum wore in England back in the 60's and 70's, definitely not men's trousers.

I definitely would not associate the word as american as they would say pants but I view it as an older fashioned type of trouser.

Definitelly heard the word used a lot growing up in the seventies (yep, I'm old) and saw signs for 'slacks' in the shops.

murpho999

kfallon wrote: »

No ball sweat? 7-14 days me hole!

Ball sweat? What do you do?

Also, isn't that what underwear is for?

steddyeddy

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I’m back in Ireland at the moment on important company business. After a mediocre meal in a restaurant in Grand Canal Dock yesterday evening, I decided to take a stroll around the city centre. Apart from the extensive roadworks to facilitate the building of the Luas, what immediately struck me was the appalling dress sense of the average Irish male. I’ve passed remarks on it before, but I couldn’t help but notice it in all its dreadfulness yesterday evening.

Observations:

An obsession with ill-fitting jeans from American brands. Lots of light blue denim, bootcuts, jeans with too much detailing. There’s a debate to be had whether men past their 30’s should wear jeans anyway, but if you must, then invest in a sensible pair of dark denim that suit your build and frame. Having the ends of your jeans tattered because they get caught between your shoes and the road just isn’t on.

Shoes. Are there only two types of shoe available to the average Irishman: runners or pointy toe slip-ons? There are few things that scream, “I don’t give a curse about my appearance” than seeing a man in his 30’s or 40’s wearing converse runners or those disgusting skateboard style shoes. The 90’s are over. The pointed toe brown slip-on isn’t quite as bad, but you always feel that the wearer just picked up a pair of catch all shoes in some bargain shelf during a sale in Dunnes.

TK Maxx must be doing a good trade in Ireland as the number of tatty looking shirts with horizontal stripes being worn in public can testify. A load bearing belt supporting a beer belly was all too common last night, especially when I was passing pubs where red-faced bores were standing outside guffawing and pulling on cigarettes. Not tucking in your shirt doesn’t disguise the stomach lads.

Haircuts: short back and sides from the cheapest place you can find seems to be the thinking. You end up looking like something from Deliverance as a result, but that doesn’t seem to bother most of them.

I’m an extremely well-travelled man and I can safely say that the average Irishman is the least fashionable breed of human on this planet. What is the reason for this? Is it something to do with poverty or Mammy doing everything for them? It’s depressing. Dressing well and spending a bit of money on a good haircut can make a huge difference to someone who wouldn’t exactly be blessed with ‘classic good looks’. Don’t get me started on teeth.

I'm calling b"llox on all of this.

fizzypish

kfallon wrote: »

It's just his usual sad trolling, comes on with the aim to offend everyone, posts an OP, leaves the thread for good and hopes to watch the bickering & arguing ensue!

Suppose he has to do something inbetween **** into a sock!

Sad trolling? Kfallon, I propose to you that this is some premier class trolling. See the sheer mastery of it. AvB made but one post on the thread and we're nearly into the 10th page. Bravo!

Also **** into socks is better for the environment! Saves on tissue or having to burn the mattress every 6 months.

somesoldiers

Arbitrary wrote: »

To quote Shaw, a fashion is nothing but an induced epidemic. To the OP, future generations will laugh at what your current perception of dress sense is. Get over yourself.

Sandy Shaw?

"Skin is in"- Sonya Lennon

LynnGrace

I think it would be more 'depressing' (to use OP's own description of his state of mind) if I had so little going on in my own life, that I went around gazing at what others are wearing, never mind letting it upset / 'depress' me in any way.

valoren

Was at a wedding recently and it seems that those young lads of about 25 were all dressed as if they were the Joker waiting tables in a restaurant, not the same colour obviosuly but variations of the same 'Joker' type suit.

https://www.pinterest.com/wravendesign/why-so-serious/

ThinkProgress

Wibbs wrote: »

The word "slacks" itself wrinkles my nose. The clue is in the name itself. They're such a beige non committal piece of apparel.

A lot of words wrinkle your old nose it seems... you're like some kind of word Nazi... :P

You should furnish people with some kind of list, so we know which words/phases are kosher when engaged in conversation with you!

But then you'd struggle for ammunition for those long whiny novels you like to cultivate! :cool:

kfallon

kfallon wrote: »

No ball sweat? 7-14 days me hole!

Never would I get less than 7 days wear out of trousers, why would their be ball sweat on my trousers and why do people think a trousers will smell after actually getting a bit of wear out of it rather than destroying it in the washing machine every second day.

Current trousers I'm not sure how many wears I've gotten, been wearing them everyday since sunday but I'd worn them on and off a few times in the previous few weeks before wearing them constantly this week. Will put them in the wash this weekend now.

Letree wrote: »

14 days with the same jeans on you might not smell yourself anymore but others can

No they can't I wouldn't wear clothes that smelled, if they need changing after a week I know it if they are ok for 10 days or 12 days I know. Just because you are conditioned to think that clothes have to be worn once doesn't make it true. Time isn't how you should measure the condition on clothes.

Wibbs

ThinkProgress wrote: »

A lot of words wrinkle your old nose it seems... you're like some kind of word Nazi... :P

You should furnish people with some kind of list, so we know which words/phases are kosher when engaged in conversation with you!

"Mom", "store" and "slacks" would cover most eventualities.

But then you'd struggle for ammunition for those long whiny novels you like to cultivate! :cool:

Saucer of milk for table four.

Martin567

somesoldiers wrote: »

I get two days out of suit trousers and jeans

Above all the comments on this thread, I'm stunned by this one.

Two days out of suit trousers! What do you do with them then? Put them in the washing machine, surely not? Are you back and forth to the dry cleaners every week or so? Even dry cleaning is very hard on a suit. You will drastically reduce its life, not a good idea if you have invested in a good suit.

Don't get a suit dry cleaned more than once or twice a year if you have any respect for it.

MonsterCookie

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I agree. Those awful blue suits, with the trousers looking like slim fit 3/4 lengths and brown shoes. Hideous.

Mmm. I wear a blue suit with brown shoes...it want cheap And I think it looks well (my wife loves it too)

Serious question: is it the colour combo you don't like or what?

valoren

valoren wrote: »

Was at a wedding recently and it seems that those young lads of about 25 were all dressed as if they were the Joker waiting tables in a restaurant, not the same colour obviosuly but variations of the same 'Joker' type suit.

https://www.pinterest.com/wravendesign/why-so-serious/

Was at a wedding lately and a couple of men were wearing shorts. As in suit trousers cut up and turned up to be shorts.

I'd say they were gas craic.

Cork Lass

kfallon wrote: »

It's just his usual sad trolling, comes on with the aim to offend everyone, posts an OP, leaves the thread for good and hopes to watch the bickering & arguing ensue!

Suppose he has to do something inbetween **** into a sock!

Yeah, but he'll claim it's an expensive Italian sock :D

Anybody who wishes to impose ties, buttoned shirts and suits as the sole "respectable" convention upon Irish people has a decided lack of class and style. No to fashion fascists.


Yes to individual freedom regarding the clothes we wear. Yes to American-style smart-casual; no to stuffy, dated Victorian ties and suits. Yes to Mick Wallace, no to Michelle Mulherin.

CalamariFritti

MonsterCookie wrote: »

Mmm. I wear a blue suit with brown shoes...it want cheap And I think it looks well (my wife loves it too)

Serious question: is it the colour combo you don't like or what?

Brown shoes are OK for jeans and chinos. With suits they need be handled with extreme care. Some would crucify me for making that allowance even. The nowadays standard blue suit brown shoe combo from the department store is a shock horror no no really. If one gives a sh1t that is of course.

BabyE

BabyE wrote: »

ITT: Neckbeards who went to college wearing three piece suits complain about guys wearing t-shirts.4

Listen up for the last time, a guys face(first of all), hair, height and body(lastly) are what make the guy, if you saw David Beckham or Zac Efron in beat up grey bottoms and a shirt, it would look trendy because they are good looking. Its not the clothes that make the man, you think you are repulsed by clothes but I'd wager that many of the guys you noticed were dressed fine, but look ugly so they experience the 'FAILO' affects whereby you jude their style worse because of their facial looks.

Letree wrote: »

Are you speaking for all women?

I don't know if you've cracked the code yet but this should give away who you're quoting.

BabyE wrote: »

Zac Efron

I knew this type of thread would get our boy Baby E(den) out.

CalamariFritti

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Brown shoes are OK for jeans and chinos. With suits they need be handled with extreme care. Some would crucify me for making that allowance even. The nowadays standard blue suit brown shoe combo from the department store is a shock horror no no really. If one gives a sh1t that is of course.

Brown shoes are far far nicer with a suit than black shoes. They look so much classier than boring black. have no idea how people think black shoes look better. I only wear brown shoes anymore in general be it with normal everyday clothes, smart casual or a suit.

I also think my blue suit (that certainly wasn't from a department store) is nicer and more up to date looking than dark suits.

MonsterCookie

Nash Poor Sluggishness wrote: »

Brown shoes are far far nicer with a suit than black shoes. They look so much classier than boring black. have no idea how people think black shoes look better. I only wear brown shoes anymore in general be it with normal everyday clothes, smart casual or a suit.

Yep. Have to agree. Black shoes generally look old fashioned. Interestingly when I bought my blue suit the sales assistant advised me to wear a white shirt and brown belt/ shoes with it rather than black shoes. (Which I would have anyway)

Mister Vain

kfallon wrote: »

No ball sweat? 7-14 days me hole!

Ball sweat is not going to be a problem unless you're going commando.

MonsterCookie

Mister Vain wrote: »

Ball sweat is not going to be a problem unless you're going commando.

Or if they get a rinse every now and then!!!