2018 Ryder Cup

Golfgorfield

The captain's all met yesterday, and within an hour of that the paddypower odds tumbled on Garcia to 1/12. That says it all, Paddy always knows

slave1

Garcia is in brutal form, not even sure form is the word, I’d go with Pieters along with the obvious three

Raisins

slave1 wrote: »

Garcia is in brutal form, not even sure form is the word, I’d go with Pieters along with the obvious three

Think Garcia is a huge gamble.

There must be more to it. It’s not seen as a bombers course which would have helped pieters or bello. I’d still have both of them ahead of Casey / Garcia.

Golfgorfield

If the Dell cship wasn't a Monday finish then Rafa would have qualified automatically, which is just bizarre that they don't move the cutoff date to the Monday.

HighLine

Silly decision to pick Sergio. Experience doesn't matter much when his current game is dire. You can't pick players citing experience as the sole reason. If that was the case, we'd have Faldo on the team.

kiers47

Garcia getting picked would be the definition of "Jobs for the boys".

Mantis Toboggan

Only carrot for Garcia is that he played well at le golf national back in July.

martinkop

Garcia shouldn't even be in the conversation the way he's playing this year!!! I'd hope he'd be man enough to decline if offered the spot

spacecoyote

Could Sergio get a late VC call-up instead (though that would be an enormous number of VCs on the European team)

Given Sergio's year it would seem to be ludicrous to pick him

slave1

Good call, a VC role would be perfect and allow a continuation for him

kopkidda

Whats Casey's record in ryder cups? My recollection is poor.

Dbu

Its a genuine 'taking the piss' if Garcia is picked

All the buddies in tow...
Seamus Power would be a better pick than Garcia

Joe_ Public

Wouldn’t be surprised if Sergio made it and Casey missed out. Just can’t see both being included, despite what the betting says.

Pa8301

I would be picking Poulter, Stenson, Pieters and Casey.

Raisins

Dbu wrote: »

Its a genuine 'taking the piss' if Garcia is picked

All the buddies in tow...
Seamus Power would be a better pick than Garcia

I know you were joking but Seamus would genuinely be a better pick he’s one of the best putters on tour.

Dbu

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Wouldn’t be surprised if Sergio made it and Casey missed out. Just can’t see both being included, despite what the betting says.

Bjorn asked Casey to rejoin the ET after he gave it the 2 fingers previously, so Im guessing that he is a guarantee at this stage

slave1

Raisins wrote: »

I know you were joking but Seamus would genuinely be a better pick he’s one of the best putters on tour.

Not a hope, you want pressure players for RC, his Sunday pressure scoring is brutal

kiers47

I know they were lesser events. But what even is the incentive in playing on the European Tour if you win 3 times and don't get picked.

Your basically shooting yourself in the foot for the European tour.
Would be an absolute farce imo

Dbu

slave1 wrote: »

Not a hope, you want pressure players for RC, his Sunday pressure scoring is brutal

Just like Garcia 'dug deep' on the back 9 a few weeks ago:D

Golfgorfield

kiers47 wrote: »

I know they were lesser events. But what even is the incentive in playing on the European Tour if you win 3 times and don't get picked.

Your basically shooting yourself in the foot for the European tour.
Would be an absolute farce imo

True to a point, but look at Wallace form in big events and majors, its abysmal. Winning smaller events is great and winning is very difficult, but his form is very very streaky. He would be a huge risk, as will Garcia. The obvious choice would be RCB/Pieters, both were fantastic last time out and both showing some form right now.

kiers47

Golfgorfield wrote: »

True to a point, but look at Wallace form in big events and majors, its abysmal. Winning smaller events is great and winning is very difficult, but his form is very very streaky. He would be a huge risk, as will Garcia. The obvious choice would be RCB/Pieters, both were fantastic last time out and both showing some form right now.

Ya thats true. I mean fair enough if it is RCB getting picked over him. But if it is Garcia it is a complete joke.

Id say there is a fair chance the 4th pick will be RCB.

Joe_ Public

Dbu wrote: »

Bjorn asked Casey to rejoin the ET after he gave it the 2 fingers previously, so Im guessing that he is a guarantee at this stage

Yes sure, but don’t see why that would amount to a “guarantee”. He still didn’t make the team. Casey is more likely than not a pick, but I have a slight feeling for Garcia because he has played well on the course (more than once) and it particularly suits his type of game. A gamble but one he might deem worth taking. And that could - could! - entail Casey missing out, I feel. 4 40 somethings as pics just feels like a bit of a stretch.

Telecaster58

Europe are going to get stuffed in this match

Pa8301

If Garcia is picked, Bjorn is really leaving himself open to being a hostage of fortune. If Europe lose and Garcia doesn't perform Bjorn will be slated.

Garcia has been playing like a drain this year. Apart from his top 10 in France, his best result since the WGC matchplay is t24 at the Wyndham Championship. He has missed a serious amount of cuts too. There's no objective reason for picking him. It would be based on sentimentality and a hope that the Ryder Cup will suddenly inspire him.

HighLine

https://twitter.com/Darth_Monty/status/1037289733745991680

mickmackmcgoo

Cabrera Bello can be backed on Betfair at 9to4 to be picked . Pieters 3 to 1. Looking at the betting, Stenson, Poulter, Casey are certs and Sergio is 1to3.

Mushy

Really don't see why Garcia will get picked. Doesn't deserve to be there at all.

Regarding my question on vice captains, was more aimed at if another will be added in place of woods. Thought Kucher was one anyway.

Looking forward to the comp, won't be a tap of work done on the Friday

Mantis Toboggan

Mushy wrote: »

Looking forward to the comp, won't be a tap of work done on the Friday

Absolutely, I've a days holiday booked in for it.

Mushy

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Mushy wrote: »

Looking forward to the comp, won't be a tap of work done on the Friday

Absolutely, I've a days holiday booked in for it.

Used too many days elsewhere, that'd be the smart move

Wallace & Cabrera-Bello would feel rightly aggrieved to be passed over in favour of Garcia, the marquee name. And Bjorn will put the spin on, "a correct blend of youth and experience..."

Russman

Deleted User wrote: »

Wallace & Cabrera-Bello would feel rightly aggrieved to be passed over in favour of Garcia, the marquee name. And Bjorn will put the spin on, "a correct blend of youth and experience..."

I agree with your sentiment, but really nobody can feel aggrieved if they haven't qualified automatically. This year I don't think there's a European player out there who's performances almost demand a pick. Whatever way you look at it, unfortunately he'll be picking 4 players from a pool where they're all much of a muchness in that its made up of guys who are probably past their best and/or guys who aren't really top end, but they made hay when the adults were over in the States playing. Slim pickings at the moment for the Euro Tour.

LuckyGent88

Even as a massive Garcia fan, I can’t agree with him getting a pick. Just doesn’t deserve it.

I’m going with poulter, stenson, Casey and Rafa

paulos53

Casey and Sergio are the first 2 picks

Jeffy17

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Stenson, Poulter, Casey and Sergio. Apparantly the team has been leaked?? I'd doubt that's true.

Seems it was true

Joe_ Public

Betting was spot on anyway. Just had a feeling he wouldn’t go all in on the vets, but turns out I was mistaken in that assumption.

Macker1

A joke that Garcia got a pick.

Niles Crane

Garcia better play well.

I would have picked Matt Wallce, he's in great form.

Joe_ Public

What it shows is that for all his claims about how tough the decision was, Bjorn had his mind fairly well made up some weeks back and the only really relevant stuff was with the automatic places. I suppose you can praise him for being decisive if nothing else, seems to be sure of his game strategy at the very least.

Pa8301

Garcia is very lucky to get a pick and needs to put in a good performance.

Russman

Golfgorfield wrote: »

If the Dell cship wasn't a Monday finish then Rafa would have qualified automatically, which is just bizarre that they don't move the cutoff date to the Monday.

Who would he have knocked out, as a matter of interest, I assume Olesen ?

Golfgorfield

Niles Crane wrote: »

Garcia better play well.

I would have picked Matt Wallce, he's in great form.

Wallace missed 4 cuts in July and 2 in August, win aside his form was disastrous, add to the fact hes a rookie, id say he had no hope.

Mantis Toboggan

You could argue that Pieters, Matt Wallace, RCB and Russell Knox would be better picks

Strictly as a matter of form, Garcia wasn't justifiable. The optimist in me is winning the narrative, he might uncork a performance for the ages...

Deebles McBeebles

Niles Crane wrote: »

Garcia better play well.

I would have picked Matt Wallce, he's in great form.

Very surprising that Wallace was left out. I guess experience was picked over form.

LuckyGent88

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Strictly as a matter of form, Garcia wasn't justifiable. The optimist in me is winning the narrative, he might uncork a performance for the ages...

The one place he did show form was on this course during the summer when he really should have won the event.

Main concern for me over the European team is the putting. The match pretty much comes down to putting and for me the US have better putters

Rikand

Deleted User wrote: »

Strictly as a matter of form, Garcia wasn't justifiable. The optimist in me is winning the narrative, he might uncork a performance for the ages...

Needs 3 points to become the all time leading points taker at Ryder Cups. Bjorn is hoping thats all the motivation he needs!

Rikand

As a massive Sergio fan, I am delighted that he's there.

But he doesnt deserve to be

Wallace, RCB and Knox can all feel somewhat aggrieved imo.


Bjorn has packed the team with serial tournament winners, something the team doesnt have a huge amount of and will now somewhat match the stats of the american team

Rikand

If Olesen hadnt made the team outright, I wonder would he have been picked ? Maybe as he's a fellow Dane

Niles Crane

Golfgorfield wrote: »

Wallace missed 4 cuts in July and 2 in August, win aside his form was disastrous, add to the fact hes a rookie, id say he had no hope.

I think he's won 3 of his last 15 starts though and with the win in Denmark maybe he's getting into form at just the right time.

Garcia is the safe choice I suppose, he does crap and Bjorn has the defence ah well he's a Ryder Cup legend you had to pick him.

PropJoe10

Certainly wouldn't have gone for Garcia - Wallace must be feeling pretty upset right now. Cabrera-Bello also. Hope it works out for Bjorn but I'm never a fan of picking people for a 3-day event on reputation.