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letters to be sent home to parents asking them to do s&s

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Where will the dept. get the addresses from?

    Maybe the implication is that the school will be using the address list.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭deiseindublin


    I'd say they think ASTI teachers will hand them out!

    Maybe admin staff will be asked to? What about management not allowed to help out with contingency? Wonder how exact that ruling will be?

    Be interesting to see how the finer details pan out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭deiseindublin


    Thinking about it, I don't know anybody off the top of my head that would be available and willing to hit into a school all day for €38.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    Garda vetting?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    It's ridiculous. No decent parent would take that money.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,400 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Dumbest idea ever


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Donal55 wrote: »
    Garda vetting?

    I suppose it's quicker than looking for teachers outside the school. So maybe they can get the vetting quicker.

    €38 per day... If only there were some way whereby the dept. could pay teachers for doing it instead. They'd save a fortune.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    I don't really think the Dept.has thought this true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    Gebgbegb wrote: »
    I suppose it's quicker than looking for teachers outside the school. So maybe they can get the vetting quicker.

    €38 per day... If only there were some way whereby the dept. could pay teachers for doing it instead. They'd save a fortune.

    With the gardai having their own IR problems with this govt I don't think they'll be rushing anything through.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Lackey


    Not a teacher but support them, and wouldn't send my kids in to cross the picket line if they try to do this. Never mind take part.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Donal55 wrote: »
    I don't really think the Dept.has thought this true.

    Well it's would appear that they have the ASTI S&S money and they desperately want to spend it. They'll be offering S&S jobs to secondary students over 18 next.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Lackey wrote: »
    Not a teacher but support them, and wouldn't send my kids in to cross the picket line if they try to do this. Never mind take part.

    Ya I wonder how many like yourself there are though. For a lot of parents it would mean missing a day's work/pay to stay at home and look after the kids.

    I think there appears to be 2 different interpretations of a picket.

    1. Nobody crosses it. Even if it's a contractor coming in to do some electrical work.
    2. Anyone except the union members may cross.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭deiseindublin


    Lackey wrote: »
    Not a teacher but support them, and wouldn't send my kids in to cross the picket line if they try to do this. Never mind take part.
    You'd be helping them more if you did send your kids in! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Lackey


    Gebgbegb wrote: »
    Ya I wonder how many like yourself there are though. For a lot of parents it would mean missing a day's work/pay to stay at home and look after the kids.

    I think there appears to be 2 different interpretations of a picket.

    1. Nobody crosses it. Even if it's a contractor coming in to do some electrical work.
    2. Anyone except the union members may cross.

    I don't think anyone would need to stay home to mind secondary school kids
    And any parents I've talked to said they won't send them in or offer to go into the schools
    But there will always be some who would I guess


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭joebloggs32


    Gebgbegb wrote: »
    Ya I wonder how many like yourself there are though. For a lot of parents it would mean missing a day's work/pay to stay at home and look after the kids.

    I think there appears to be 2 different interpretations of a picket.

    1. Nobody crosses it. Even if it's a contractor coming in to do some electrical work.
    2. Anyone except the union members may cross.

    If the ASTI are calling a "Strike", members of other unions are not being asked to also withdraw their labour.
    However, if the ASTI were calling for an "All Out Strike" then they would be requesting all other unionised staff to withdraw.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    Donal55 wrote: »
    Garda vetting?

    Parents assoc are already garda vetted and a lot of mammies/daddies on flexitime


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    I hope lots of parents and other outsiders get to experience the joy of supervising a free class. It may open a lot of eyes which can only be good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Lackey wrote: »
    I don't think anyone would need to stay home to mind secondary school kids
    And any parents I've talked to said they won't send them in or offer to go into the schools
    But there will always be some who would I guess

    Yeah, there will always be that one parent who will send their kids into school for baby sitting, or that parent who hates teachers will send their child as a way to give the middle finger to staff


  • Registered Users Posts: 52,009 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I wonder will they ask people to be Gardai too.
    Would be great craic altogether.
    I might get to arrest that prick of a neighbour of mine. :pac:


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    Thinking about it, I don't know anybody off the top of my head that would be available and willing to hit into a school all day for €38.

    How many hours for the €38?


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I wonder will they ask people to be Gardai too.
    Would be great craic altogether.
    I might get to arrest that prick of a neighbour of mine. :pac:

    Let me know when its everyone's turn to be a Doctor. Right, I faint at the sight of blood, but sure, I've been sick before so I should know how to deal with colds and such :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 52,009 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Let me know when its everyone's turn to be a Doctor. Right, I faint at the sight of blood, but sure, I've been sick before so I should know how to deal with colds and such :pac:

    I think the doctors are scheduled just after the pilots actually.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I think the doctors are scheduled just after the pilots actually.

    I mean, I've played Flight Simulator a while back, so I can take a crack at the pilot thing too if needed :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    If anyone remembers when supervisors were brought in at the start of the last decade they may recall the disaster it was for everyone and the discipline problems which followed. Most of the supervisors either just stopped working or turned up and do nothing because they couldn't handle it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,222 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I've seen 'Casualty'. I'll give that doctor thing a go. I'd love to be a newsreader though - they only work 30 minutes a day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭Crazyteacher


    Hey you'd learn a lot more from Holby from a surgical perspective !


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,498 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    Bringing parents in is essentially strike breaking. That said, it might let parents see what teachers have to put up with on a day to day basis.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    Should we send them in or keep them at home? I was planning on keeping mine at home in support but an earlier post has made me wonder.

    Edit- the teenagers not the parents/teachers etc :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    spurious wrote: »
    I've seen 'Casualty'. I'll give that doctor thing a go. I'd love to be a newsreader though - they only work 30 minutes a day.

    Does that mean if hypothetically, one watches porn, it makes one an expert in the art of love making?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭man_no_plan


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    I mean, I've played Flight Simulator a while back, so I can take a crack at the pilot thing too if needed :P

    I'm not sure that's required once you've been on a plane or in an airport you should be okay.


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