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What is going on in our schools?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭BobbyPropane


    It worries me to see people accept that Ireland is to become a melting pot of cultures especially when you consider that a lot of these cultures would not allow the same thing to happen in their own countries and die fighting to preserve their values.

    We will lose our identity if we continue. Our children will grow up listening to other children speaking foreign languages and talking about their homelands while our cultures erodes to facilitate the melting pot. Eventually we will have nothing and Ireland will be a boring island without identity tradition or even its own language. Nothing will unite us together and we will be driven apart by our cultural differences with natural hatred becoming a thing.

    And you all let this happen because you're so guilted and brainwashed to believe that somehow immigration of many cultures into your own homeland to a point where your own is diluted is somehow biologically OK.

    What kind of a ****, boring and fractured world would we live in without our own tradition. We will be lost. I'll leave it at that as I know some of you don't give a toss. But you will regret it. Your future generations will be lost. Fighting and defending our national/tribal values is what makes us human.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 sjw_central


    tupenny wrote: »
    Moldovan, Chinese, Kazakhstani,Bulgarian,polish, Indian along with the majority Irish in my kids class. She's only recently started to notice not all in the class are Irish and loves learning about all the costums and history and heritage of the non/new Irish in the class.
    It's a great thing Imo.
    Áfach, foghlamaíonn said go léir an teanga áitiúil freisin

    Uninformed and naive.

    Would you welcome the diversity that Nazism could bring to your childs school?

    If not, why not?
    Does the same reason apply to Islam?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 sjw_central


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    WTF am I reading?!

    Do you have a point to argue beyond hysterics?

    It is possible for people to have a culture of rape. Rape is often used as a weapon of war and Islam considers itself to be at war with the West and with Western values.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    It worries me to see people accept that Ireland is to become a melting pot of cultures especially when you consider that a lot of these cultures would not allow the same thing to happen in their own countries and die fighting to preserve their values.

    We will lose our identity if we continue. Our children will grow up listening to other children speaking foreign languages and talking about their homelands while our cultures erodes to facilitate the melting pot. Eventually we will have nothing and Ireland will be a boring island without identity tradition or even its own language. Nothing will unite us together and we will be driven apart by our cultural differences with natural hatred becoming a thing.

    And you all let this happen because you're so guilted and brainwashed to believe that somehow immigration of many cultures into your own homeland to a point where your own is diluted is somehow biologically OK.

    What kind of a ****, boring and fractured world would we live in without our own tradition. We will be lost.

    Last time I checked, it wasn't "cultures" coming here, it was people.

    The reason I came here was because I don't particularly like the culture I come from.

    Sure, let's freeze our culture so that it may never change and on big days, we can take it out of the cupboard, dust it off, have the children gaze at it in silent admiration and then put it back to prevent it coming to any harm.
    And send everyone who dares trying to make new culture into exile.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    It worries me to see people accept that Ireland is to become a melting pot of cultures especially when you consider that a lot of these cultures would not allow the same thing to happen in their own countries and die fighting to preserve their values. We will lose our identity if we continue. Our children will grow up listening to other children speaking foreign languages and talking about their homelands while our cultures erodes to facilitate the melting pot. Eventually we will have nothing and Ireland will be a boring island without identity tradition or even its own language. Nothing will unite us together and we will be driven apart by our cultural differences with natural hatred becoming a thing.And you all let this happen because you're so guilted and brainwashed to believe that somehow immigration of many cultures into your own homeland to a point where your own is diluted is somehow biologically OK.What kind of a ****, boring and fractured world would we live in without our own tradition. We will be lost. I'll leave it at that as I know some of you don't give a toss. But you will regret it. Your future generations will be lost. Fighting and defending our national/tribal values is what makes us human.
    Bobby an English friend of mine said to me recently "no offence but you Paddies are thick". I said why? He said "because you've seen what multiculturalism does right on your doorstep in England yet you're doing the exact same thing".

    It is indeed crazy that people see no problem in committing cultural suicide.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Uninformed and naive.

    Would you welcome the diversity that Nazism could bring to your childs school?

    If not, why not?
    Does the same reason apply to Islam?

    Wait ... are you trying to say we should not allow your own children to attend school? :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    Shenshen wrote: »
    Last time I checked, it wasn't "cultures" coming here, it was people.The reason I came here was because I don't particularly like the culture I come from. Sure, let's freeze our culture so that it may never change and on big days, we can take it out of the cupboard, dust it off, have the children gaze at it in silent admiration and then put it back to prevent it coming to any harm.And send everyone who dares trying to make new culture into exile.

    That's an arrogant stance to take toward the culture of your host nation. I never dreamed of taking such a stand when I lived in another Country. I had too much respect for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    Jesus. wrote: »
    Bobby an English friend of mine said to me recently "no offence but you Paddies are thick". I said why? He said "because you've seen what multiculturalism does right on your doorstep in England yet you're doing the exact same thing".

    It is indeed crazy that people see no problem in committing cultural suicide.

    Yeah, well, you would be anti Islam.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Jesus, I've not heard Báidín Fheilimí in about 30 years. If I dont hear it referenced for another 30 years I'll be happy as Larry.
    Ah the painful memories of learning that song and getting rappedon the knuckles for not singing out and also for mispronouncing Feidlimí and Fheidlimí



    For the OP's grandchild's school:D



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    Get over it. Ireland is not the isolated "white irish" nation that it once was. It is now a diverse range of cultures from all over the world which is a good thing.

    Why exactly is it such a good thing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,921 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    Jesus. wrote: »
    Bobby an English friend of mine said to me recently "no offence but you Paddies are thick". I said why? He said "because you've seen what multiculturalism does right on your doorstep in England yet you're doing the exact same thing".

    It is indeed crazy that people see no problem in committing cultural suicide.
    what problems has the uk ? It is specifically with the Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities in North england ?

    Which wouldnt be that terribly relevant to a situation in Ireland where the majority of foreigners are british or polish, or other EU citizens


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    After Hours really is the arsehole of boards, isn't it? The place where racist ****wits come to feel loved...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Do you have a point to argue beyond hysterics?

    Are you trolling? I'm hysterics when you're the one talking about rapey 20 and 30 year olds going to school with kids?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,315 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I see the loonies have arrived.
    I'm off.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    what problems has the uk ? It is specifically with the Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities in North england ?

    What problems has the UK? Are you serious?

    If you think its confined to northern England then you're mistaken. White British are now a minority in their capital city. As the OP has pointed out we're following suit with gusto. We'll be just as big a melting barrel as they are before long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Jesus. wrote: »
    That's an arrogant stance to take toward the culture of your host nation. I never dreamed of taking such a stand when I lived in another Country. I had too much respect for them.

    *lol Sorry, but I prefer integration to assimilation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭BobbyPropane


    Shenshen wrote: »
    Last time I checked, it wasn't "cultures" coming here, it was people.

    The reason I came here was because I don't particularly like the culture I come from.

    Sure, let's freeze our culture so that it may never change and on big days, we can take it out of the cupboard, dust it off, have the children gaze at it in silent admiration and then put it back to prevent it coming to any harm.
    And send everyone who dares trying to make new culture into exile.

    Ireland has a sense of identity, tradition and culture. If you don't like it, fine. But don't try to destroy or dilute it. I believe 100% that the majority (80%+) of people on this island should be white Irish people who share the same traditions, cuisine and for the most part values. I know that this is the case at the moment but I and many others see us becoming minorities in our own lands and were supposed to sit back and accept that Ireland is now for everyone even if they don't respect and learn our ways? Are we supposed to let Ireland become as generic as any other multicultural place? I love cultural diversity when it means that I can fully immerse myself in another culture by travelling to the country of it's people. Not mixing a **** load together and hoping for the best.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    spurious wrote: »
    I see the loonies have arrived.
    I'm off.

    As if the main multiculturalism thread wasn't enough for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    spurious wrote: »
    I see the loonies have arrived.
    I'm off.
    That's what makes it fun.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    should be white Irish people who share the same ...... cuisine

    'Chinese' takeaways, pizza, pasta and rice? Or should any of us who regularly eat those over crubeens and colcannon have to wear a star of some sort?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Do you have a point to argue beyond hysterics?

    It is possible for people to have a culture of rape. Rape is often used as a weapon of war and Islam considers itself to be at war with the West and with Western values.

    Can you formulate a coherent argument without throwing out random confusing statements.
    Have people seen the grown men being taken into the UK as children?

    Will they end up as schoolchildren?

    Is it appropriate that grown men, who may have a culture of rape, be placed into schools with real children?

    So, the government cannot be relied upon to do the right thing. The government will fail to do its duty correctly and ordinary people will come to harm as a result.

    I hope 20 and 30 year old men with a rapey culture don't end up in Irish schools.

    Liberals must really hate their own kind to force this upon us.

    30 year old men posing as schoolchildren? WTF are you talking about? Are they disguising themselves as schools too?



    Whatever your politics you have to realise that your post reads like the rantings of a delusional madman.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    RayCun wrote: »
    After Hours really is the arsehole of boards, isn't it?

    Well you're here...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 sjw_central


    Typical stuff from boards liberals.

    Deflect deflect deflect.

    Refuse to answer, and avoid hard questions.

    Label dissenters as racists and loons.

    Dictate and assert without evidence that destroying your own culture is a good thing.

    Destroying your own country is not a good thing and is in fact a cowardly act.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Label dissenters as racists and loons.

    In all fairness, reading just one of your posts on this thread alone, anyone who doesn't label you a loon can only be a loon themselves.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    MOD

    Get this back on topic, this is not a commentary thread on boards, AH or each other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Typical stuff from boards liberals.

    Deflect deflect deflect.

    Refuse to answer, and avoid hard questions.

    Label dissenters as racists and loons.

    Dictate and assert without evidence that destroying your own culture is a good thing.

    Destroying your own country is not a good thing and is in fact a cowardly act.

    Interesting you should mention - I haven't yet seen any reply from you on my post on personal choices. Instead, you keep posting disjointed slogans.

    Since you are that keen on evidence, can you please provide any that culture is, in fact, being destroyed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Jesus. wrote: »
    That's an arrogant stance to take toward the culture of your host nation. I never dreamed of taking such a stand when I lived in another Country. I had too much respect for them.

    Seriously, Jesus. You came down from heaven and started a religion that was in direct philosophical conflict with the established hierarchy. How was that having too much respect for the culture of your host nation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    I believe 100% that the majority (80%+) of people on this island should be white Irish people who share the same traditions, cuisine and for the most part values.

    Oh yeah, which values are they? Priest at the head table, no gay people allowed, GAA for everyone, black fellas are weird? Or something from this century? Does that mean all the rural grannies aren't Irish any more?

    Tell you what, you make up a list of Irish values so that we can tick people off who don't count as Irish. Do I get bonus points for being white and born here, or does it not matter if I don't match your list? Also, I'm vegetarian, so I guess that'll probably count against me?

    I've a lot more in common with a bunch of foreigners than I do a bunch of some Irish people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Typical stuff from boards liberals.

    Deflect deflect deflect.

    Refuse to answer, and avoid hard questions.

    Label dissenters as racists and loons.

    Dictate and assert without evidence that destroying your own culture is a good thing.

    Destroying your own country is not a good thing and is in fact a cowardly act.

    Chill, head on over to the multiculturalism thread to spout that ****e, either with the account you're using now or one of the many others that you have.

    This is a thread for ripping the p*ss out of the OP who was clearly talking boll**ks.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    Seriously, Jesus. You came down from heaven and started a religion that was in direct philosophical conflict with the established hierarchy. How was that having too much respect for the culture of your host nation?

    Guilty as charged. Sorry Shenshen :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭dont bother


    Jesus. wrote: »
    Don't be so ludicrous. There's nothing racist whatsoever in the OP.

    He's concerned that Irish children are a minority in many schools. Why shouldn't he be?

    how is it racist? it's pretty obvious how it's racist. OP is trying to say that it's "unfair" that there is more non national children in the school than national children. they make out that it's a bad thing. they didnt cite any good reason for this, and they are "afraid" of the result of this.

    their tiny "parish pump" mind can not comprehend how everyone else has moved on.

    the curriculum in primary schools is VERY spread out. the "more advanced" irish children won't be "Held back" because of the "stupid foreigners" - if anything they will be way better than the OP in many ways as they will grow up in an environment where the only culture that is appreciated is the GAA and mass.

    this type of thick country thinking boils my blood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,188 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Oldtrope wrote: »
    I live in a very rural part of Ireland as many of you know, the village I live in can have no more than 500 homes in the surrounding area.

    This morning I took my Granddaughter to school, its her first year and she is junior Infants. What I witnessed was shocking and upsetting.

    The classroom was nicely laid out but everywhere I looked foreign words were displayed all over the walls with pictures of flags and their name in their language. For Ireland the words were wrote in English, no Gaelige anywhere.

    I enjoy talking to some of the other parents as I have done in the past when I took one of my grandsons to the school in the past, today was much different. Nearly every mother I spoke too were foreign, I encountered a lot of Eastern Europeans, a few Brazilians, and some English. If I had to put a number on it I would say the majority of the classroom had foreign children with only a small percentage of Irish children.

    So where again are all these Eastern European and Brazilian women ?
    Eastern European women with Brazilians. ;)
    Look at the positives your grandson might end up catching a nice lookin girlfriend and the local football team is sure to improve.
    Those Brazilians are great footballers.
    Oldtrope wrote: »
    I waited to speak to the teacher, I wanted to know why Ireland was represented in English and not Gaelige. When she arrived she was welcoming and appeared almost happy someone had finally asked her the question. She told me that because the majority of the classroom could speak very little English they had to use their own languages to welcome them and make them feel at home, English was the 2nd language that all children must learn and so even Irish has to be represented in English. They do still teach Irish as part of the curriculum, but it is only taught at the bare minimum acceptance level as it was no use to the classroom because the majority of the children had been exempted by the school governors and the department of Education.

    I was never that pushed about how Irish or Gaeilge was taught in our schools because it actually managed to put most people off the language.
    And I have no problem putting up maps and flags showing where people are from. It might help with geography for a start.
    All I would worry about is that any one group would try to impose their views and mindsets on everyone else and look for extra special considerations.
    Oldtrope wrote: »
    I asked her why were there so many non Irish children, she replied to me that if I thought this was bad then I should look at the bigger towns and Cities where the problem was far worse.

    Do we really need to explain how when a man loves and woman and they cuddle in a special way it can result in a baby.
    Look at it this way those foreigners are better at the cuddling and do it far more often than the Irish.
    Hence more babies and thus more children eventually in school.

    PS it is Gaeilge not Gaelige

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Chain Smoker


    I found that all the Irish words plastered on everything done f*ck all to help me embrace Irish, it was just some weird barrier to work around.


    Without any sincere efforts to help children understand the structure of the language until secondary school, all that Irish in primary school serves to do is put people off the language.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Estrellita


    Cultural heritage? Like learning Báidín Fheilimí under threat of a beating from a bitter old nun? That type of thing? Good riddance. May it burn to the ground.

    My kids go to a school with others from various backgrounds, where the emphasis is on education in a happy and supportive atmosphere.

    They'll never know what a miserable schooling a lot of us had and that's fine by me.

    I'm not sure what era of schooling you are talking about, but the whole violent clergy thing is gone a long time. My education was a happy Irish cultured one. I remember our class won Slógadh in primary school too, proud moment for my parents. I was taught to play fiddle after school by an amazing teacher from Kerry. I can play jigs, polkas you name it. But there's so few people that would want to hear it. It's actually very sad how much contempt a lot of Irish people have towards their own heritage and culture. There is a lot to be proud of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭dont bother


    Estrellita wrote: »
    I'm not sure what era of schooling you are talking about, but the whole violent clergy thing is gone a long time. My education was a happy Irish cultured one. I remember our class won Slógadh in primary school too, proud moment for my parents. I was taught to play fiddle after school by an amazing teacher from Kerry. I can play jigs, polkas you name it. But there's so few people that would want to hear it. It's actually very sad how much contempt a lot of Irish people have towards their own heritage and culture. There is a lot to be proud of.

    there is some stuff to be proud of, but force feeding people the idea that they should be ashamed of themselves for having no interest in learning a useless, needless, difficult dead language is ridiculous.

    so you say you learned all of that - what's wrong with learning all of that AND other cultures?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Estrellita


    so you say you learned all of that - what's wrong with learning all of that AND other cultures?
    I think you might need to step out of the thread and have a breather. I said nothing at all about NOT wanting to learn about other cultures. I simply said I was saddened by the contempt some Irish had for their own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Estrellita wrote: »
    I think you might need to step out of the thread and have a breather. I said nothing at all about NOT wanting to learn about other cultures. I simply said I was saddened by the contempt some Irish had for their own.

    Not everybody likes all kinds of music. Nor does everybody like all forms of culture.

    Me, I'm a bookworm and love classical music. I'll listen to traditional, but wouldn't go out of my way to seek it out.
    And people across the board have this weird habit of judging people based on what music they like.I think Dara O'Briain did a bit on this - "Oh, you like that noise? I only like this noise! Why would you like that noise? There must be something wrong with you for liking that noise better than this noise!" Very simplified, but it's to the point, I think.
    So why would people treat polkas and different from hip-hop or metal? You like what you like, and if you're an insecure oddball, you judge others for not liking what you like ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Moo Moo Land


    meeeeh wrote: »
    A lot can be due to attitudes of their peers. Anyway I don't know what has that to do with anything I posted.

    Sorry I wasn't having a cut at you.

    But I am right in saying that young children are never ever racist, their parents pass it on. The peers you are talking got their racism from their parents.

    The OP is racist and is hell bent on passing that on to his/her grandchild.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Moo Moo Land


    I found that all the Irish words plastered on everything done f*ck all to help me embrace Irish, it was just some weird barrier to work around.

    Where I live, they ripped out a perfectly good "English" road sign showing 'Barna 7km' and replaced it with an Irish road sign showing "Bearna 7km".

    That's when I realised the Irish Nazis had gone too far.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭midnight city


    how is it racist? it's pretty obvious how it's racist. OP is trying to say that it's "unfair" that there is more non national children in the school than national children. they make out that it's a bad thing. they didnt cite any good reason for this, and they are "afraid" of the result of this.

    their tiny "parish pump" mind can not comprehend how everyone else has moved on.

    the curriculum in primary schools is VERY spread out. the "more advanced" irish children won't be "Held back" because of the "stupid foreigners" - if anything they will be way better than the OP in many ways as they will grow up in an environment where the only culture that is appreciated is the GAA and mass.

    this type of thick country thinking boils my blood.

    Where else in the world would that be celebrated though. Pick a country for your thought experiment. Rwanda, Japan, Cambodia.. Imagine the natives of those countries started to become a minority. Should they be expected to celebrate that. Should they be called racist for wondering aloud if that was really a good thing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Estrellita


    Shenshen wrote: »
    Not everybody likes all kinds of music. Nor does everybody like all forms of culture.

    Me, I'm a bookworm and love classical music. I'll listen to traditional, but wouldn't go out of my way to seek it out.
    And people across the board have this weird habit of judging people based on what music they like.I think Dara O'Briain did a bit on this - "Oh, you like that noise? I only like this noise! Why would you like that noise? There must be something wrong with you for liking that noise better than this noise!" Very simplified, but it's to the point, I think.
    So why would people treat polkas and different from hip-hop or metal? You like what you like, and if you're an insecure oddball, you judge others for not liking what you like ;)

    I get that people like different things, but I used Irish music as an example because it was very much a feature in my own upbringing. Culture is made up of so much more than that. Whether it's the food, clothing, way of life.

    I just feel that people from other countries love, and are very proud of their country and their heritage. So many Irish have such a depressing account of Ireland. It really is a beautiful country, and it's just not talked about. It's almost like an embarrassment to some.

    Just to be clear, and obviously I need to be, but I've nothing against learning about other cultures. My points are focused only on the loss of our own in general.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Moo Moo Land


    Where else in the world would that be celebrated though. Pick a country for your thought experiment. Rwanda, Japan, Cambodia.. Imagine the natives of those countries started to become a minority. Should they be expected to celebrate that. Should they be called racist for wondering aloud if that was really a good thing.

    It depends of course whether you are talking about being taken over by other nationalities or races?

    For example, what race of people would become majority in Rwanda except other Africans?

    1. Racism = prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

    2. Xenophobia = dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.

    I believe the OP is both.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    how is it racist? it's pretty obvious how it's racist. OP is trying to say that it's "unfair" that there is more non national children in the school than national children. they make out that it's a bad thing. they didnt cite any good reason for this, and they are "afraid" of the result of this. their tiny "parish pump" mind can not comprehend how everyone else has moved on.
    How is that racist though? And of course its not a good thing. Are you crazy?

    the curriculum in primary schools is VERY spread out. the "more advanced" irish children won't be "Held back" because of the "stupid foreigners" - if anything they will be way better than the OP in many ways as they will grow up in an environment where the only culture that is appreciated is the GAA and mass. this type of thick country thinking boils my blood.
    I can't find where he suggested anybody would be held back or that the only culture that should be appreciated is GAA and mass. You're being silly now.

    Once again, he's concerned that there's more foreign kids in many schools than there are Irish. Why shouldn't he be?
    Where else in the world would that be celebrated though. Pick a country for your thought experiment. Rwanda, Japan, Cambodia.. Imagine the natives of those countries started to become a minority. Should they be expected to celebrate that. Should they be called racist for wondering aloud if that was really a good thing.

    The funny thing is that the lefty loonies who clearly believe there isn't anything called "Irish culture" per se would baulk if somebody said for example a middle eastern Country didn't have its own cultural richness that should be protected. (That's just an example btw). The self hatred that's been drummed into people by modern political corectness and the media etc is extremely evident on these pages.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭midnight city


    It depends of course whether you are talking about being taken over by other nationalities or races?

    For example, what race of people would become majority in Rwanda except other Africans?

    Racism = prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

    Xenophobia = dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.

    I believe the OP is both.

    Well not if it was Europeans and Chinese that were moving in. We all know that current liberal dogma would demand the Rwandans to accept that without a complaint or they would be racist. That's they way it is in the West right now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Moo Moo Land


    Well not if it was Europeans and Chinese that were moving in. We all know that current liberal dogma would demand the Rwandans to accept that without a complaint or they would be racist. That's they way it is in the West right now.

    Yeah Yeah very very unlikely.

    Is your concern in Ireland driven by racism or xenophobia?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Estrellita wrote: »
    Just to be clear, and obviously I need to be, but I've nothing against learning about other cultures. My points are focused only on the loss of our own in general.

    How is our culture being lost? We have a very visible and successful traditional culture, masses of funding spent on preserving the language and an explosion of Gaelscoils in the country over the last decade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭GreenFolder2


    I'm pretty sure the Brexiteers have a time machine over in England, possibly near Hull somewhere, that will transport you straight back to 1952.

    If it's not built yet, they will definitely have it up and running in the near future (or is that past..?)

    So, I would suggest you head over to England and then you can travel back in time and get a ferry back to Dublin in 1952.

    Problem solved!

    As long as you keep your rose / green tinted spectacles on you won't notice any of the poverty, misery, cold war brewing in the background and so on.

    It'll be grand!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    It depends of course whether you are talking about being taken over by other nationalities or races?For example, what race of people would become majority in Rwanda except other Africans?
    1. Racism = prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.2. Xenophobia = dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.I believe the OP is both.

    So let me get this straight. If your Country was being taken over one would have to be either racist or xenophobic to object to it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭midnight city


    Yeah Yeah very very unlikely.

    Is your concern in Ireland driven by racism or xenophobia?

    What has likelihood got to do with it. That's whats happening in Europe. Would the same be OK in Rwanda?

    Neither, as i'm very happy to have immigration, my concern is whether it will work out OK with the numbers coming into Europe now. I feel we are moving too fast and this process is irreversible.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 29 sjw_central


    Shenshen wrote: »
    Interesting you should mention - I haven't yet seen any reply from you on my post on personal choices. Instead, you keep posting disjointed slogans.

    Since you are that keen on evidence, can you please provide any that culture is, in fact, being destroyed?


    There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

    http://www. politics. ie/forum/europe/239928-invasion-europe.html

    Over 2,600 pages there of major problems, and of problems that the mainstream media refuses to highlight, such as persistent gang rapes and threats.

    A disabled woman was gang raped in Sweden a few days ago. The prosecutor declined to prosecute as the rape wasn't violently resisted. The woman is paralysed for Gods sake!

    Not a problem eh?

    The Swedish police only turned up to protect the rapists from a public mob which had formed to exact justice or revenge. The Swedish are cuckold fools.


    Muslim rape gangs in Rotherham. You condone that do you?
    Do you condone the refusal of the police to investigate?



    Islam is a horrible religion, as are most religions, but there are worse things, such as liberal self hating leftists.

    Oh, and men with beards in dresses, like Conchita Wurst.


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